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big mean giraffe posted:Never underestimate the Catholic and Cuban bases when it comes to voting conservative StrangersInTheNight posted:yeah, Catholicism absolutely makes a ton of folks into single-issue-voters Those groups have largely already been voting R for decades now. They're not at issue here since their votes are already factored in. There are claims that latinos, millenials, and black people are suddenly now switching to voting R en masse, which is where these polls are showing their huge swings, and that doesn't really seem to mirror reality at all.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:18
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I really want to do the Xenomorph thing and have another tiny head in that mouth
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Mar 3, 2024 18:18
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Wii Spawn Camper posted:My grandfather was also at Normandy and he gives everyone permission to do whatever they want during the pledge https://youtu.be/qCK5CLpjjJE StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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Mar 3, 2024 18:19
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Mar 3, 2024 18:20
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Those groups have largely already been voting R for decades now. I'm not saying they're affecting polling at all, just responding to the sentiment that Latinos got scared away from voting R because of their bigotry. Many do not care one bit about that.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:20
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I'm not saying they're affecting polling at all, just responding to the sentiment that Latinos got scared away from voting R because of their bigotry. Many do not care one bit about that. For some that is certainly true, there are people like black nazis after all right?, but on the whole the voting pattern is that they've tended to not vote R.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:23
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1764339116437557344?s=46&t=G1x8XWIwrNxUQoXItlkh2w I’m worried this line of thinking will be discarded by the SCOTUS as alarmist and unjustified, but realistically I don’t see them buying Trump’s argument that presidents would need total immunity to govern, lest they want to nullify every presidential administration before their say in the matter.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:24
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:For some that is certainly true, there are people like black nazis after all right?, but on the whole the voting pattern is that they've tended to not vote R. Oof no see that just reduces all Latinos to a single leftist population in your brain, which they are NOT. Florida is a conservative Cuban haven, for example. Latinos are not one single identity - that's an umbrella term for a lot of different peoples - you have to consider where people are from, what they've experienced, and what side of the political spectrum they were on before they left home, if they're refugees themselves. All of that affects their politics, not just 'R's hate them so they hate R's'. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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Mar 3, 2024 18:25
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Lube Enthusiast posted:I wish Letterman was still on, all of trumps brain farts would be perfect stingers for the Great Moments In Presidential Speeches segment Making fun of politicians is WOKE now, because Republicans just consistently say the most brain melting insane poo poo you’ve ever heard so it sounds partisan to keep making fun of them
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Mar 3, 2024 18:25
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Is it just me, or does trump seem to have the mindset of 12th century lord that can’t even grasp the idea of a non-autocratic government?
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Mar 3, 2024 18:28
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BigglesSWE posted:I’m worried this line of thinking will be discarded by the SCOTUS as alarmist and unjustified, but realistically I don’t see them buying Trump’s argument that presidents would need total immunity to govern, lest they want to nullify every presidential administration before their say in the matter. in a 7-2 decision agents of american empire can never be held accountable for their actions
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Mar 3, 2024 18:28
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neato burrito posted:I don't think you understand the level of hate that the average chud still carries because the president was a black guy. It's like a lightning strike, it cooked their brain from the inside out. I remember hearing somewhere that EMTs were stopping the use of the “who’s the President?” question when attending to old and confused people during the Obama years because it was too common for grandpa to not know where he was or what year it was but remember with lightning clarity that the President was “that loving—“
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Mar 3, 2024 18:29
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Professor Shark posted:Pierre (and Danielle Smith, who is fighting to have Alberta NOT included in the Universal Pharma plan) have that same Trump thing where they need to have their PR person come speak to the press immediately after they say something ti clarify what they meant. And they just like Trump they both immediately end run their PR people and deliver "I DID IN FACT poo poo MY PANTS" statements doubling down on it. Like Poilivere's "yes, I WOULD make it so you need to upload photo ID into a database just to look at porn", and Smith's "yes, I we ARE opting out of pharmacare, gently caress your diabetes."
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Mar 3, 2024 18:29
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Oof no see that just reduces all Latinos to a single leftist population in your brain, which they are NOT. Florida is a conservative Cuban haven, for example. I'm litterally just describing the voting trend of latinos in general for the last decade plus. The reality is they vote D by large margins most of the time. Those votes aren't guaranteed but Trump and the R's don't seem to be ones to shift them to voting R.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:31
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And what I'm saying is, that's reductionist considering when you break down how they vote based on diaspora you get a greater view into things. Latinos in Florida largely don't vote Democrat, which has a large effect on things considering how important Florida is to the EC Ron DeSantis' victory is in part attributed to Latino votes. And that fucker has been messing with all of us. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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Mar 3, 2024 18:33
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Wallmonger? I hardly know her!
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Mar 3, 2024 18:34
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Oof no see that just reduces all Latinos to a single leftist population in your brain, which they are NOT. Florida is a conservative Cuban haven, for example. Also there is no one so racist against a foreign place as recent immigrants from that place who want to cement their identity as new citizens. As seen in noted documentary West Side Story (1961)
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Mar 3, 2024 18:35
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Data Graham posted:Also there is no one so racist against a foreign place as recent immigrants from that place who want to cement their identity as new citizens. As seen in noted documentary West Side Story (1961) *Leans against the wall, mongishly, clicking fingers*
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Mar 3, 2024 18:36
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StrangersInTheNight posted:when you break down how they vote ... you get a greater view into things.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:39
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1764339116437557344?s=46&t=G1x8XWIwrNxUQoXItlkh2w Any issue regarding Presidential immunity for Trump is doubly so for Biden, because he’s holding the lamp with unlimited wishes. Trump will not be immune to stealing nuclear secrets, starting insurrections, rape, porn star hush money payoffs or border wall money fraud but drat near everything else, including murdering a million Americans during COVID.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:40
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Look, polling and treating 'latinos' as one lump is a fuckin problem that makes it so people imagine all Latinos as leftists which allows the conservatives yet more power but sure ok let's go with 'nothing matters because anything can be further stratified' jfc It's like saying everywhere in the US is the same and can be lumped together culturally, which is notttt true. We understand that California is different from Florida, and separate the two, so why can you not make room for the fact that the Latino populations in both places are very different? And thus have different effects on the larger political stage. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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Mar 3, 2024 18:42
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Stay normal Trump lol thread.
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Mar 3, 2024 18:46
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Monica Bellucci posted:*Leans against the wall, mongishly, clicking fingers*  Grey Cat posted:*ding ding ding bing bong whoop zoom boom!* 
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Mar 3, 2024 18:48
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Is it just me, or does trump seem to have the mindset of 12th century lord that can’t even grasp the idea of a non-autocratic government? I happen to hold the position that nearly 100% of GOP politicians fantasize about an eventual dictatorship. Trump reached the closest yet in obtaining their dreams.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:02
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Most of the Cuban contingent is in Florida so yea it'll definitely impact Florida, but I'm not sure if there are millions of Cuban voters across the entire country. The census in 2023 puts it at 2,850,000 Cuban Americans. The Majority of concentration is in Florida and the east coast. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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Mar 3, 2024 19:02
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emSparkly posted:Stay normal Trump lol thread. no
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Mar 3, 2024 19:11
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hey PKMN Trainer Red.....can my truck driver name be Cole Slawesome? over and out.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:18
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ManBoyChef posted:hey PKMN Trainer Red.....can my truck driver name be Cole Slawesome? over and out. Because you asked so nicely, yes. 
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Mar 3, 2024 19:19
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Is it just me, or does trump seem to have the mindset of 12th century lord that can’t even grasp the idea of a non-autocratic government? I think it’s more like the Greek vs Roman view of power, ca 300 BCE. The diadochoi followed Alexander’s lead in adopting Persian-style god-emperor rhetoric and imagery, whereas the Romans had this abstract idea of imperium as something that could be vested in a magistrate but was not his property or inextricable from him. In the former view, Antigonus II or Philip V or whoever is the source of all good things and benefactor of his people and agent of Zeus on Earth, whereas in the latter, the power of the Senate and People is put under the (temporary) control of a Consul or Praetor who is expected to use good judgment in using it—but could be in real trouble if he is later found to have abused it. Trump is basically trying to be Julius Caesar, ie building up such a strong base of popular support that he can cast the e: if Mitch McConnell had any guts he and Mike Pence could have been the Cassius/Brutus duo of our generation, although I realize that would mean their eventual getting murked by, I dunno, an alliance of Jared Kushner and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Apollodorus fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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Mar 3, 2024 19:21
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Why is everybody mentioning thaf Zelda hand enemy who comes at you through the walls? Are they trying to summon him? 
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Mar 3, 2024 19:21
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How you ask about identity in a poll can change how people group themselves, particularly if the poll only has 5-6 categories. Iirc there's been a shift where people who previously identified as White have become more comfortable identifying as White Hispanic, meanwhile second or third generation mixed race kids tend to lean away from Hispanic as an identity. I wouldn't be surprised if the lovely DNA test industry is encouraging more people to identify as mixed race who wouldn't have self-identified that way in the past. Cultural identity changes aren't a "problem", to be clear- but it means you're not going to get a clean comparison, and would be a factor in polling.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:21
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Outpost22 posted:Why is everybody mentioning thaf Zelda hand enemy who comes at you through the walls? Are they trying to summon him? because of that dang Judge Engoron
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Mar 3, 2024 19:27
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:There are claims that latinos, millenials, and black people are suddenly now switching to voting R en masse, which is where these polls are showing their huge swings, and that doesn't really seem to mirror reality at all. I see somebody missed the last black Latino millennial meet. By show of hands, we decided that the republicans had learned their lesson and to let bygones be bygones.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:27
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Scags McDouglas posted:I happen to hold the position that nearly 100% of GOP politicians fantasize about an eventual dictatorship. Trump reached the closest yet in obtaining their dreams. They all fantasize about it for sure, but outside of the freedom caucus and maga idiots they understand that installing a dictatorship requires rolling back a pile of democratic institutions. Trump and his gang just seem to think that's how things naturally work and get confused when someone says it's a violation of norms and laws. Which may actually prevent them from doing it successfully, so it could be worse.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:28
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It’s not just Cubans in Florida (and elsewhere) voting R. There’s all kinds of conservative Hispanics out there with different reasoning. W is the Republican who did best with Latinos in 2004, and Trump did really well with them in 2020 (though some of that is sus. There’s a South Texas county that flipped Clinton-Trump and Biden basically got the same amount of votes as Clinton, but Trump magically gained 5000 more votes. poo poo like that is why I’ll always be a bit  about Trump gaining votes in 2020. He might just be really good at motivating non-voters, but given that he’s a liar and a fraud about everything else, why should I accept it at face value?)Reasons may vary, but there are indications that there’s a big chunk of the Latino vote that just loving loves Trump’s border and immigration policies. They saw the family separations and the children in cages and said “  There’s no way this will ever blow back on me!”
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Mar 3, 2024 19:30
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Republicans as a whole get white people to vote against their best interests all the time. Why would it be any different for Latino voters? Stupid and selfish transcends race.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:34
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kazil posted:because of that dang Judge Engoron No those guys were your allies and ate rocks, I'm talking about the giant hands that phase through walls to grab Link.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:35
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Outpost22 posted:No those guys were your allies and ate rocks, I'm talking about the giant hands that phase through walls to grab Link. Wait, you mean that band that sang One Headlight back in the 90s?
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Mar 3, 2024 19:38
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Frank Frank posted:Republicans as a whole get white people to vote against their best interests all the time. Why would it be any different for Latino voters? Stupid and selfish transcends race. There’s also the weird 16-level race hierarchy in a lot of Hispanic cultures, so while we lump them together as “Latino” or “Hispanic,” they see themselves as part of a complex web of mixed ethnicities and national origins that makes little sense to white people in America.
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Almost Smart posted:I see somebody missed the last black Latino millennial meet. By show of hands, we decided that the republicans had learned their lesson and to let bygones be bygones. Meeting was chaired by Susan Collins obviously.
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