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EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

GABA ghoul posted:

I love how oblivious those attempts to conflate language and nationality are. They just don't get that most of the world is not on board with pan-slavism or similar ideas. Like, how is this supposed to appeal to anyone in Europe? Austria, Switzerland and Luxembourg speak German. Italy, Romania and France have German speaking minorities. Does that give Germany the moral right to interfere in internal French, Italian or Swiss affairs? Are they making an argument that it should have that right? And Europe is all like that. Belgium speaks French and Dutch. Finland has a Swedish speaking minority. The Balkan has their whole serbo-croatian thing going on, etc.

And it's even worse outside of Europe. Brazil speaks Portuguese and the rest of SA speaks Spanish. The US and Canada speak English. The Middle East has Arabic. Huge parts of Africa speak either French or English. Australia speaks English. etc. Almost nobody is gonna be very receptive to those ideas.

e: Ok, I guess it does appeal to Hungary since they do have some pan-hungarianism going on. Also Serbia. But none of the cool countries do.

It appeals to a lot of dads who watch too much fox news or European equivalents and spend at least half their income on lovely booze and there are a lot of dads that meet this criteria OP

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Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

GABA ghoul posted:

The US and Canada speak English.

swing la bacaisse dans l'fond de la boîte à bois

:quebec:

Nice Van My Man
Jan 1, 2008


I've been looking up these language laws and... looks like the rest of Canada might have to invade?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Rust Martialis posted:

swing la bacaisse dans l'fond de la boîte à bois

:quebec:

Tabernac calise ostie

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






GABA ghoul posted:

Belgium speaks French and Dutch.

They have a German-speaking minority too! Like 80 thousand people lol. I think even the Belgians themselves sometimes forget they exist

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Let them bon temp roulez

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Nice Van My Man posted:

I've been looking up these language laws and... looks like the rest of Canada might have to invade?

More like a moral duty. Quebec is a menace and has been tolerated for too long

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






The Poutine must be protected

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

spankmeister posted:

They have a German-speaking minority too! Like 80 thousand people lol. I think even the Belgians themselves sometimes forget they exist

I remember my dad explaining the existence and differences between Fleming and Walloon and he implied confusing the two while in Belgium might result in escalation to violence but he was there in the '60s so I assume it was a leaded gas making people (or just him) deranged.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Rest of SA do not speak Spanish actually

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

GABA ghoul posted:

Austria, Switzerland and Luxembourg speak German.

The Swiss French and Italian speakers would like a word with you, as would the French speakers in Luxembourg :toughguy:.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

bunnyofdoom posted:

Tabernac calise ostie

Hanglaphone

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

The_Franz posted:

The Swiss French and Italian speakers would like a word with you, as would the French speakers in Luxembourg :toughguy:.

And Liechtensteiners are mad for being left out.

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring

Blistex posted:

Hanglaphone

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Mr Teatime posted:

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring

nice

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Private sector debt has increased by 50% in Russia in two years. Have you meet my friend? Say hello to 16% interest rate.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Ronwayne posted:

I remember my dad explaining the existence and differences between Fleming and Walloon and he implied confusing the two while in Belgium might result in escalation to violence but he was there in the '60s so I assume it was a leaded gas making people (or just him) deranged.

The 60's were tumultuous times in Belgium because it used to be that Wallonia was the richer and more powerful part due to the coal mines and heavy industry there. But during that time the mines were being shut down which resulted in social unrest. Flanders was becoming more economically important and things were shifting. Some large national political parties split into French- and Dutch-speaking factions. Traditionally Dutch-speaking areas had a lot of French-speaking people moving there, shifting the political balance. (Brussels being a big one)
Perhaps in those times, especially in economically hard hit Wallonian mining towns, or some of the more mixed border areas, things could get violent?

(I'm way oversimplifying and glossing over a lot of things here, please forgive me Belgians).

Eventually, Belgium federalized and things calmed down but the way they federalized left a lot of things unaddressed.

Nowadays I don't think there's any violence and the Walloons and Flemish mostly get along in daily life, there are nationalist and separatist movements on both sides but for the most part Belgians identify as Belgian and not French or Dutch, and if not that most of them still want the country to keep existing. However, the questions left open by the federalization are still an issue to this day. The country is incredibly hard to govern, often in complete deadlock. When there's been elections it can take famously long to form a coalition. Everybody agrees that reforms are desperately needed but the question of what to do with Brussels is still unanswered for example.

Again, apologies to Belgians if I got any of this incorrect! And sorry for the derail.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1764544229978558860
:dukedog:

rowkey bilbao
Jul 24, 2023
Kudos to whoever is conducting sabotage inside Russia, takes real courage.

haddedam
Feb 19, 2024

by Fluffdaddy
No eonder russian cigarettes are banned...

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

spankmeister posted:

The 60's were tumultuous times in Belgium because it used to be that Wallonia was the richer and more powerful part due to the coal mines and heavy industry there. But during that time the mines were being shut down which resulted in social unrest. Flanders was becoming more economically important and things were shifting. Some large national political parties split into French- and Dutch-speaking factions. Traditionally Dutch-speaking areas had a lot of French-speaking people moving there, shifting the political balance. (Brussels being a big one)
Perhaps in those times, especially in economically hard hit Wallonian mining towns, or some of the more mixed border areas, things could get violent?

(I'm way oversimplifying and glossing over a lot of things here, please forgive me Belgians).

Eventually, Belgium federalized and things calmed down but the way they federalized left a lot of things unaddressed.

Nowadays I don't think there's any violence and the Walloons and Flemish mostly get along in daily life, there are nationalist and separatist movements on both sides but for the most part Belgians identify as Belgian and not French or Dutch, and if not that most of them still want the country to keep existing. However, the questions left open by the federalization are still an issue to this day. The country is incredibly hard to govern, often in complete deadlock. When there's been elections it can take famously long to form a coalition. Everybody agrees that reforms are desperately needed but the question of what to do with Brussels is still unanswered for example.

Again, apologies to Belgians if I got any of this incorrect! And sorry for the derail.

Thanks!

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

GABA ghoul posted:

"Was the potato famine justified? A reexamining of NATO-nazi-irishist nationalist aggression against the noble English people in the 19th century" by A. Tankie

"hey bardender gimme a Chernobyl"

"I am Ukrainian cyka! How would you like if I ordered 3 Mile Island?"

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Alan Smithee posted:

"hey bardender gimme a Chernobyl"

"I am Ukrainian cyka! How would you like if I ordered 3 Mile Island?"

A normal subject of the USA would not know what that is.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

I would like a "Flint Michigan" please, no ice. :shrek:

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Rust Martialis posted:

swing la bacaisse dans l'fond de la boîte à bois

:quebec:

Tabernak!
/

weg
Jun 6, 2006

Reassisted Retrogression

Alan Smithee posted:

"hey bardender gimme a Chernobyl"

"I am Ukrainian cyka! How would you like if I ordered 3 Mile Island?"

3 Mile Island Iced Tea

CSM
Jan 29, 2014

56th Motorized Infantry 'Mariupol' Brigade
Seh' die Welt in Trummern liegen


B-B-But the tankies said Russia wasn't trying to annex Ukraine!

poor waif
Apr 8, 2007
Kaboom

CSM posted:



B-B-But the tankies said Russia wasn't trying to annex Ukraine!

If you look carefully, they've left a rump state around Kyiv an handed over all of western Ukraine to Poland, all according to praxis.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

poor waif posted:

If you look carefully, they've left a rump state around Kyiv an handed over all of western Ukraine to Poland, all according to praxis.

its loving surreal how loving backwards russian geopolitics is. like yeah geopolitics in general is a land of euphmisms and big powers loving smaller powers and proxy poo poo and blah blah blah. but russia thinks everything is loving victoria/hoi/etc game poo poo but like weird uber nationlist poo poo from the gilded age. like its so loving weird.


CSM posted:



B-B-But the tankies said Russia wasn't trying to annex Ukraine!

i think the weird tankie brains like russia partly because "russia is honest" much like how alot of chuds like trump. putin doesnt coat his imperial adventures in freedom or bettering the lives of people or whatever. its just weird rambling mad king lore nerd bullshit.

wit
Jul 26, 2011
Serious question, what is the definition of tankie these days? Putin sycophants? Tacit supporters of pulling support for ukraine under the guise of X country first?

LashLightning
Feb 20, 2010

You know you didn't have to go post that, right?
But it's fine, I guess...

You just keep being you!

wit posted:

Serious question, what is the definition of tankie these days? Putin sycophants? Tacit supporters of pulling support for ukraine under the guise of X country first?

Supporting a perceived socialist/communist (or socialist/communist-some-time-in-the-past) state's colonial or otherwise expansionist aggression, due to the idea "well, they're socialist/communist, so what they're doing must be good".

PC LOAD LETTER
May 23, 2005
WTF?!

Vampire Panties posted:

Russia also can't lose anytime soon. They've built the largest minefields ever created, and Ukraine doesnt have the material to breakout. He can drag this out for decades, although dude is 71 so there's a very finite amount of time he personally can invest in this.
The problem isn't the mine field at this point.

Its the large numbers of drones and artillery guarding it. If they push back the Russian AF and start doing runs on the Russian artillery hiding all around them they can start putting anti mine vehicles out and clearing a lane.

Actual full blown demining will take years. I've seen others say a decade or so is realistic but I'm no expert on the subject.

Vampire Panties posted:

As to what his plan is specifically, It seems like he's willing to wait out Western support and grind the entire country into rubble. This says Russia is building 100 tanks a month, and losing 12 a week Will it work? IMO probably not, but it won't be decided anytime soon.
Nearly all those tanks aren't being 'built'. They're including converted and refurbished older models in those numbers. Stuff like those T55's apparently is still making up a fair chunk of it. Their actual capability to build new tank hulls before the start of the war was something like 20-40 a year. They couldn't even build 20 of the new Armata's in a year. Just enough to meet foreign sales requirements for T90(M)'s and T72 variants.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I mean how much of a working air force does russia have, like didnt they lose ALOT of planes from strikes on airbases and such? the bigger issue is artillary and russia has alot of dumb artillary.

They've got a LOT more planes than pilots.

They had a critical shortage of pilots before the war started and its steadily gotten worse for them as they've had several get killed, injured, or captured while the rest are making more and more dumb mistakes because they're getting worn out by being forced to fly 24/7.

Ukraine is doing a really impressive job shooting down around a plane a day lately but they'll have to maintain that for longer before the Russian AF is degraded enough that they'll hardly be able to operate in Ukraine.

wit
Jul 26, 2011

LashLightning posted:

Supporting a perceived socialist/communist (or socialist/communist-some-time-in-the-past) state's colonial or otherwise expansionist aggression, due to the idea "well, they're socialist/communist, so what they're doing must be good".

Yeah thats the jump I didn't get. Russia is an oligarch empire that's loved by the right, its not even vaguely commie. Tankie was always used for soviets-can-do-no-wrong babble.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

CSM posted:



B-B-But the tankies said Russia wasn't trying to annex Ukraine!

*checks notes*

I'm sorry, Medvedev is not on the shortlist of people whose threats actually count.

Why yes, it is a very short list.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

wit posted:

Yeah thats the jump I didn't get. Russia is an oligarch empire that's loved by the right, its not even vaguely commie. Tankie was always used for soviets-can-do-no-wrong babble.

It's evolved. While not being left wing at all, China and Russia do w/e they want and simps will carry water for them. Cultural genocide in China? Nah western propaganda. Roll around raping and murdering people in Ukraine? Nah western propaganda.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Tankies are Americans who hate America but are unaware of the fact that they are part of the America that literally everyone else hates.

Sedgr
Sep 16, 2007

Neat!

:lol: In tankie news how is the T-14 Armata doing today?

https://defence-blog.com/russia-abandons-armata-tank-due-to-its-high-cost/
:byetankie:

Putin is a real piece of poo poo. Just like the T-14 Armata

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Sedgr posted:

:lol: In tankie news how is the T-14 Armata doing today?

https://defence-blog.com/russia-abandons-armata-tank-due-to-its-high-cost/
:byetankie:

Putin is a real piece of poo poo. Just like the T-14 Armata

Why would cost be an issue for such an economically strong nation that isn't impacted by sanctions at all?

Are they not so strong that 1 alone beats a hundred Abrams??

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

CSM posted:



B-B-But the tankies said Russia wasn't trying to annex Ukraine!

Huh? Lukashenka would get nothing while Poland gets larger part of western Ukraine? :lol: Orbanistan getting something while Fico would get nothing even though he really enjoys sucking Russian dicks, almost on the Orban's level?

I guess Zhirik's plans from 2014 were not updated for 2024 and the only change is Medvedev's enthusiastic adoption of Zhirik's loudmouthed alcoholism

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CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:

:wtc:

The """reasons""" they give for this just become more and more deranged and deluded.

Edit 1:

loving what.

That is someMasaokis-tier cuisine.

Edit 2:
What the actual gently caress I'm watching him attempting to make a grilled cheese sandwich -- a 25 minute video, some-loving-how -- and he calls fresh bread 'raw'.

Dan is the human equivalent of a ginger cat.

Also, Dan is huge into wrestling and I think a lot of this is an act, but you can never really be sure.

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