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HallelujahLee posted:this is a dumb slapfight especially for this thread yeah you're right i'm just in a foul mood over this whole mess in general
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Raskolnikov38 posted:from 2018 I can't believe someone lied to me on the internet
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to whomever made whatever missiles the german navy is using, god bless u
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Morbus posted:to whomever made whatever missiles the german navy is using, god bless u thank you, US defense contractors. the SM-2 has been in service since 1979. so chances are good they didn’t clean the dust out of the fuel injectors.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:thank you, US defense contractors. I would imagine there's no need to because missiles that small are all solid propellant, no?
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V. Illych L. posted:there's no virtue in picking the worst case to try to make. it's just stupid. I think you're right in an honest debate kind of way. But nobody gives a flying gently caress about that and what you are also doing is conceding the strongest emotional argument, which is that rapes occured. Which is what gives people very bad vibes and makes them not want to be seen as supporting the side doing the rape. Regardless of all your technical arguments about rape-as-strategy or policy or whatever. Regular people don't care. They're just hearing you say "Palestinians did rape" and they know rape is bad.
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Leandros posted:I would imagine there's no need to because missiles that small are all solid propellant, no? I’m joking, but iirc the sm-1 and 2 both have solid fuel rockets, yes.
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StashAugustine posted:I think VIL is mostly right but man the complete shitshow of the NYT reporting has honestly pushed me closer to thinking it literally didn't happen, just given how loving incompetent they were I mean, if you're gonna talk about systematic rape and then not show any evidence at all then how are we even pretending that systematic rape happened?
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Mister Speaker posted:Aren't virtually all rockets solid-fueled these days? I was under the impression liquid-fueled rockets were incredibly dangerous and most places had phased them out already. There's probably some ICBMs using liquids but other than that I imagine so.
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4d3d3d posted:Too far even for the racist low-IQ thugs who make up the US military 
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V. Illych L. posted:i feel that after one of them self-immolated in an extremely public act of martyrdom members of the US armed forces should probably not be dismissed out of hand on this issue esp. since bushnell was their tipping point: https://twitter.com/taliaotg/status/1764639825020203022
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/mayadeenenglish/status/1764776248482345111?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA this is also probably one of the reasons they're still firing rockets from positions in North Gaza even though most of the settlements they're firing at are completely abandoned - it wastes Israeli manpower and resources at a time when they are trying to mass for a push into Rafah, and the longer that push is delayed the weaker the Israeli position is, even if the rockets don't actually hit anything valuable or do any damage
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Solid fuel is extremely stable and they should last for decades if they're kept in proper condition. So it'll be like 5 to 25 years under good conditions, and much less than that if they're not looked after properly. So look forward to more ships exploding out of nowhere 😈
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Willa Rogers posted:esp. since bushnell was their tipping point: 100 on 3 million isn't exactly a tidal wave of dissatisfaction. The percentage of people worldwide subscribing to the second biggest ant farming youtube channel is larger than that.
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Leandros posted:100 on 3 million isn't exactly a tidal wave of dissatisfaction. The percentage of people worldwide subscribing to the second biggest ant farming youtube channel is larger than that. i assume this is the opening social media blitz of the petition, from a closed privately passed around thing to a public one and the number might rise now
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Leandros posted:100 on 3 million isn't exactly a tidal wave of dissatisfaction. The percentage of people worldwide subscribing to the second biggest ant farming youtube channel is larger than that. Might be misreading but that to me says 100 active duty troops were willing to have their name put on a letter that says they don't agree with official US policy, that letter itself being anonymous
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unless more servicemen come forward and put their necks out this letter is little more than the grumbling of Little Eichmanns.
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signing onto the letter is at least saying i'm willing to be dishonorably discharged and/or sent to the brig for some petty amount of time
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Raskolnikov38 posted:signing onto the letter is at least saying i'm willing to be dishonorably discharged and/or sent to the brig for some petty amount of time how did it work when active duty troops objected to iraq in the public square? immediately court marshalled?
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Al! posted:how did it work when active duty troops objected to iraq in the public square? immediately court marshalled? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iraq_War_resisters#Objectors_claiming_the_war_is_illegal pretty much, unless you went down the proper path to get legally recognized as a conscientious objector which got you a honorable discharge
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:the food the idf supplies its soldiers has to be kosher. and by cooking on the shabbat they ruin the kitchen's kosher status. That makes some sense to me. Or more sense. It's still a ridiculous punishment. For one, the unit should be able to offer sufficient hot dogs for those who aren't religious. Also, I can't imagine snitching on someone for being hungry and making hot dogs. All kinds of crazy stuff is happening and you take a moral stance on petty BS.
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V. Illych L. posted:while i agree that it's a very weird way of phrasing it, it would not shock me in the least if there were a handful instances of sexual violence committed by palestinians against israelis during the assault. they broke the fence and anyone could stream out. that includes a lot of very, very angry young men with no clear idea of what was going on but a blood haze and a lot of pent-up fury. that can manifest in many ugly ways, including such violence. Am I wrong or have every time youve come into this thread you've made the implication that there at least must have been some sexual violence done by the Palestinian Resistance? I'm like 90% sure you've been called out on this poo poo before. E:Sorry, should have kept reading the thread.
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salartarium posted:That makes some sense to me. Or more sense. It's still a ridiculous punishment. For one, the unit should be able to offer sufficient hot dogs for those who aren't religious. Also, I can't imagine snitching on someone for being hungry and making hot dogs. All kinds of crazy stuff is happening and you take a moral stance on petty BS. I mean, do you want to either snitch them out and nab an immediate promotion (with a bump in pay) or wait until you get a promotion in field?
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Willa Rogers posted:they didn't sign the letter; like the WH & State & DNC staffers they "signed" the letter. I'm confused, do you mean the 100 signatures on the open letter don't actually include names and just say like "LCpl, USMC" or something
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Chillgamesh posted:I'm confused, do you mean the 100 signatures on the open letter don't actually include names and just say like "LCpl, USMC" or something I don't even know if they included ranks; I do understand the sentiment behind it, although why not say you've got 10,000 signees if they're all anon?
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Western Journalism is just so important guys. It speaks truth to power ya know.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Same. There's one chant in particular at local protests that I just can't join in on, "Gaza Gaza don't you cry, we will never let you die" and all I can think is, but we are 
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Same. There's one chant in particular at local protests that I just can't join in on, "Gaza Gaza don't you cry, we will never let you die" and all I can think is, but we are Yeah. I’m still optimistic they can get out of this without us though.
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