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Silly Burrito posted:Nikki’s done. I sorta think Haley won’t or will take her sweet rear end time endorsing trump.
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Mar 6, 2024 12:44
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greazeball posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-limit-credit-card-late-fees-move-against-junk-fees-2024-03-05/ yes yes that's all great and he's done lots of other great things but Biden hasn't done this one particular specific thing I personally want him to do so I guess I have no choice but to vote for the other guy instead
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Mar 6, 2024 12:44
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I sorta think Haley won’t or will take her sweet rear end time endorsing trump. I imagine if she doesn't they'll boot her out of the GOP or find some other way to punish her for not being a spineless toady like the rest of them.
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Mar 6, 2024 12:46
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Convex posted:if it was in an earlier version of this thread then apologies, i probably plagiarised it without realising No no, you misunderstand. I’m sad it’s still relevant.
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Mar 6, 2024 12:47
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Fishmasher posted:it looks like over 4 million boomers are dying every 4 years. Not dooming, just musing on where "new" conservatives come from. There's a huge contingent of young men in particular who are the dumbest, most hateful people imaginable whose motivations include nihilism through to politicised misogyny. I'd like to see some statistics on this in the US, but in the UK, teachers report an alarming number of boys who parrot lovely Andrew Tate, alpha grindset talking points. For some people, there's the "gently caress you, got mine" drift to the right, but I don't think that's as pronounced as the clichés make it out to be and Americans only really have the choice between a centre-right and a far-right party by most metrics. We're not talking about college socialists becoming more conservative once they get a mortgage where fascism is involved, I think.
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Mar 6, 2024 12:49
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Stoatbringer posted:I imagine if she doesn't they'll boot her out of the GOP or find some other way to punish her for not being a spineless toady like the rest of them. Would she actually care? Lara Trump is about to be the head of the RNC. There is no more GOP; its entirely MAGA. Either Pmurt wins and elections don't matter anymore, or he loses and whatever is left of the GOP collapses like a dying star
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Mar 6, 2024 12:52
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Any chance Haley tries running independant?
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Mar 6, 2024 12:54
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I sorta think Haley won’t or will take her sweet rear end time endorsing trump. What would be her motivation for doing so? Not like he’s going to hand her a cabinet position. Those will all be taken by fast food moguls, pillow salesmen and actual SS uniform-wearing Nazis
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Mar 6, 2024 12:56
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Frank Frank posted:What would be her motivation for doing so? Not like he’s going to hand her a cabinet position. Those will all be taken by fast food moguls, pillow salesmen and actual SS uniform-wearing Nazis  There's always spite? plus she's maybe the only independent that could peel away votes from Pmurt. Even a few thousand votes in Michigan or Pennsylvania would make a difference.Also, if Pmurt doesn't win, she would be extraordinarily primed as a conservative candidate in '28
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Mar 6, 2024 12:59
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Vampire Panties posted:
No, I meant “what would be her motivation for endorsing Trump?”. There’s nothing in it for her
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Mar 6, 2024 13:01
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Gros Tarla posted:Any chance Haley tries running independant? Sore Loser laws would make that nonviable
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Mar 6, 2024 13:02
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Asterite34 posted:Clinton was the first lovely domino in the chain, but Trump was the fattest domino  Rude
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Mar 6, 2024 13:04
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Frank Frank posted:What would be her motivation for doing so? Not like he’s going to hand her a cabinet position. Those will all be taken by fast food moguls, pillow salesmen and actual SS uniform-wearing Nazis Her cowardly nature? Her spineless amorality? Her base servitude? Her desperate need for attention? Her sociopath's gullibility? Funky See Funky Do fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Mar 6, 2024 13:06
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I doubt trump would give her anything if he won. He's been leveling insults at her quite often because she didn't bend the knee early on. Her pulling a state off of him so he doesn't get a 100% victory will burn in his narcissistic brain which I doubt he can forgive. Plus she's a woman.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:10
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Will it really? Because so far everyone has just kinda quietly let it happen while going 'o no our rights, o well' Uh, every state that had it on the ballot so far immediately rejected abortion bans, in huge numbers The average dem performs 25 points higher in turnout results from elections since Roe. This is not even close to a statement in reality
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Mar 6, 2024 13:17
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Trump isn't in the mood to reconcile with Haley or her supporters so I'd expect him to remain annoyed with her for a while
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Mar 6, 2024 13:17
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FlashFearless posted:What the gently caress are you talking about? Reaction to Roe has flipped multiple state congresses and enshrined abortion protections in state constitutions. It drove big dem turnout in OHIO for Christ sake. Yes I know this. It isn't nearly enough. A few states taking action is not actually real change for the majority of people suffering without access to abortion care. My reaction to the statement was because it feels exactly like when people would say 'oh if Roe vs Wade is overturned people will be out on the streets', and the answer is they weren't, it's being handled very gingerly via electoralism and then individual state victories being held up as signs of big change to come. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Mar 6, 2024 13:18
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Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:At this point, don't ever think of Florida as a contest. It's a red state. It sucks that it's populous, but it's red. It might as well be Texas. The media will make it into a contest because there needs to be a narrative and Florida carries electoral weight, but it's going to be red. At least until a demographic shift occurs or politicians put in the work to change people's minds. Until then, at least from an average citizen's perspective, it's red. I'd rather energy be spent on places that don't make me feel embarrassed. Florida, like almost every other "red" state has been gerrymandered to hell and back by Republicans. They don't need a "demographic shift" they need fair electoral maps. There are as many black people in Florida as Maryland and Virginia combined. Hundreds of thousands moreso than in NY. Florida is also the #3 state in America for Latino/a people behind California and Texas. The gerrymandering in Florida is vicious and total. E: one example to check out: John Rutherford represented district 4 back when it looked like this in yellow:  Notice the smattering of purple in the center of jax. that's the urban core area and if I could find a higher res version you could see the district split down to street levels along where the wealthy white people and poor black people tend to live in the city. After a redrawn district map which still wasn't great, he moved from old district 4 to new 5, seen here:  which contains only the richest people from his previous district. There was a little bit of hope recently, as the district maps were found unconstitutional and ordered redrawn, but the SCOFL upheld the maps on appeal. Karma Comedian fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Mar 6, 2024 13:19
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Frank Frank posted:No, I meant “what would be her motivation for endorsing Trump?”. There’s nothing in it for her A potential cabinet position. She won't get one, but she'd like to think she might.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:20
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Karma Comedian posted:Florida, like almost every other "red" state has been gerrymandered to hell and back by Republicans. They don't need a "demographic shift" they need fair electoral maps. There are as many black people in Florida as Maryland and Virginia combined. Hundreds of thousands moreso than in NY. Florida is also the #3 state in America for Latino/a people behind California and Texas. You might want to check who Florida's Cuban population politically sides with There are many different Latino groups in the US, they don't all vote Democrat. Florida is red because multiple demos that are growing in population there are red. Like gerrymandering absolutely, and I have no doubt the GOP on Texas and Florida cheat in elections openly with how much they accuse everyone else, but Texas and Florida do have chuds moving in daily to live in their Gilead hellholes.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:24
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Lol aaaaand that is why I was saying you can't just lump latino voting population in together based on an average across the US. Then people say things like, oh the gerrymandering in FL is disenfranchising the obviously dem latino population. It just becomes an inherent assumption that all brown people vote dem.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:27
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Disco Pope posted:Not dooming, just musing on where "new" conservatives come from. There's a huge contingent of young men in particular who are the dumbest, most hateful people imaginable whose motivations include nihilism through to politicised misogyny. I'd like to see some statistics on this in the US, but in the UK, teachers report an alarming number of boys who parrot lovely Andrew Tate, alpha grindset talking points. sorta. alot of young men feel lost as gently caress in general when your that age and want to be contrarian assholes while finding themselves. I was wannabee troll laugh at the sad fucks online at that age and was until community college. i also think younger men needs heros and the left kinda has a bad job providing them for various reasons, the right doesnt because as long as you follow the guide to a degree, they are less likely to turn on you. with the left, its basicaly "one gently caress up and your a marked one" which sure makes sense when its actual gross bad poo poo, but some of that stuff gets weird purity fight poo poo. same with historical figures. also liking fictional characters is bad too. so lol. but anyway, i think some will obviously stick with it, espcially "townies" but i think many will just normalize out.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:30
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E beat horse
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Mar 6, 2024 13:30
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Uh, all the truly leftist heroes get murdered, unfortunately Also unfortunately, that's kinda by design
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Mar 6, 2024 13:33
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Mar 6, 2024 13:34
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Gerrymandering sucks but it doesn't really affect presidential elections.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:35
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Also they have Jesus? As an example? The most leftist hero of all and arguably one of the biggest know culturally. But young conservative men have been openly rejecting him because he's too forgiving and kind for their tastes. It's by choice, they don't want to see these heroes as heroes - its not because these examples don't exist.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:36
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Uh, all the truly leftist heroes get murdered, unfortunately I dont even mean from that perspective fully. I have just been around stupid fandom twitter to know people love to use that poo poo flail to say "this is why your a piece of poo poo if you like _________" obviously its stupid bullshit. but i was into all kinda of stuff when i was a teen and i can only imagine how stupid and awful it is to be in any kind hobby now and have a teenage brain. StrangersInTheNight posted:Also they have Jesus? As an example? The most leftist hero of all and arguably one of the biggest know culturally. But young conservative men have been openly rejecting him because he's too forgiving and kind for their tastes.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:36
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TulliusCicero posted:You might want to check who Florida's Cuban population politically sides with Yes, I know. Not all citizens in any grouping are a monolith. Including Cubans. Further, the Cuban population makes up less than half the Latino population in Florida, so I'm not really sure why you bring that up except to try to argue something you're wrong about. HappyHippo posted:Gerrymandering sucks but it doesn't really affect presidential elections. Each state has the flexibility to allocate their electoral votes in different ways. This is actually how Maine and Nebraska currently split their electoral votes. Florida doesn't currently do this but with deep red districts everywhere there's noone to stop them from trying to change to something similar. Karma Comedian fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Mar 6, 2024 13:36
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What a fun party. Gonna stand there solemnly in a suit and tie with my hands folded, trying not to make eye contact with anyone
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Mar 6, 2024 13:57
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Also they have Jesus? As an example? The most leftist hero of all and arguably one of the biggest know culturally. But young conservative men have been openly rejecting him because he's too forgiving and kind for their tastes. There's Jesus, and then there's "JesUSA" though.
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Mar 6, 2024 13:58
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Legit looks like where they kill vagrants for the blood reckoning
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Mar 6, 2024 14:00
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  Failing NYT doesn't even have American Samoa, which Crooked Joe Biden lost, by A LOT, like a dog!
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Mar 6, 2024 14:02
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That lone Haley win
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Mar 6, 2024 14:05
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Biden mostly +60-80 Trump losing a state and barely hitting +60 Here's why this is bad for biden.
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Mar 6, 2024 14:07
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Strong Sauce posted:i was looking at my spam folder and saw this email I guess they found a Third Joke. And by some law of chud physics it will morph into a universally held core policy plank: "abolish gun registration"
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Mar 6, 2024 14:11
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Dean Phillips had his best showing in his home state of Minnesota where he lost to Uncommitted by double digits e: actually it appears Oklahoma he did better but I have no idea what happened here  He also lost to a guy without a wikipedia page in Texas 
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Mar 6, 2024 14:12
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Data Graham posted:I guess they found a Third Joke. ....that was already one of their policy planks.
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Mar 6, 2024 14:13
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CommieGIR posted:....that was already one of their policy planks. As I was typing that I wondered, wait, IS it?? I don't even know what is too dumb to imagine anymore
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Mar 6, 2024 14:15
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but the votes are documented, that's why they won.
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