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Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Auspol 2024: "stupid white bastard"


We all know the Submarine's won't be built, but may use coal if built anyway.

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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
The UK is a dumpster fire country anyway maybe one day they’ll win a football World Cup.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

webmeister posted:

Wait, a cop is using a minor infraction to harass an indigenous person? That can't be right, surely

indigenous to calcutta?

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble
Racial villification laws are so unfair to white people, who don’t want to say racial stuff anyway so why ban them from saying that stuff? If only there were a way that racial villification laws could be used to further entrench existing racial power structures normal society (for everyone’s comfort and security) instead of disrupting things.

Edit - I’m being told that UK police have found a way

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

The Artificial Kid posted:

Racial villification laws are so unfair to white people, who don’t want to say racial stuff anyway so why ban them from saying that stuff? If only there were a way that racial villification laws could be used to further entrench existing racial power structures normal society (for everyone’s comfort and security) instead of disrupting things.

Edit - I’m being told that UK police have found a way

:perfect:

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

eh Sam Kerr is an awesome athlete and obviously didn't mean too much by what she said but if you go around saying "you *stereotypical identifying feature*+*insult*", it is going to get you in trouble. Especially when you are an expat in a country where that ethnicity is the majority of the populace.

Really a bit of classic Aussie tourist FAFO

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
wriggles thinks reverse racism is real

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

when I was a kid in Thursday Island, I had to be escorted home by a police car as a year one student (along with my two older siblings, year four and year six). The reason why is the day before we got chased down by high school students, one my sisters yelled "run, get mum" turned around to face them. They beat the piss out of her, tore out about half of her hair. Blood everywhere and chunks of her scalp missing. I can still remember my mum running out with a thong in her hand, jumping the back fence and heading the way I had come. We moved to Longreach after that.

I have lived and worked in Africa for the last 10 years and travelled extensively. If you think that locals outside Australia are above a bit of picking on outsiders, you are loving stupid.

Autisanal Cheese
Nov 29, 2010

Comstar posted:

Petition to change thread name to :

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Auspol 2024: "stupid white bastard"


We all know the Submarine's won't be built, but may use coal if built anyway.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Electric Wrigglies posted:

when I was a kid in Thursday Island, I had to be escorted home by a police car as a year one student (along with my two older siblings, year four and year six). The reason why is the day before we got chased down by high school students, one my sisters yelled "run, get mum" turned around to face them. They beat the piss out of her, tore out about half of her hair. Blood everywhere and chunks of her scalp missing. I can still remember my mum running out with a thong in her hand, jumping the back fence and heading the way I had come. We moved to Longreach after that.

I have lived and worked in Africa for the last 10 years and travelled extensively. If you think that locals outside Australia are above a bit of picking on outsiders, you are loving stupid.

Can you see how there could possibly be a difference between anti-minority and anti-majority sentiment?

Possibly something to do with power dynamics?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Electric Wrigglies posted:

when I was a kid in Thursday Island, I had to be escorted home by a police car as a year one student (along with my two older siblings, year four and year six). The reason why is the day before we got chased down by high school students, one my sisters yelled "run, get mum" turned around to face them. They beat the piss out of her, tore out about half of her hair. Blood everywhere and chunks of her scalp missing. I can still remember my mum running out with a thong in her hand, jumping the back fence and heading the way I had come. We moved to Longreach after that.

I have lived and worked in Africa for the last 10 years and travelled extensively. If you think that locals outside Australia are above a bit of picking on outsiders, you are loving stupid.

wait this is awful but im not connecting the dots between this and sam kerr calling a cop a white bastard

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

hooman posted:

Can you see how there could possibly be a difference between anti-minority and anti-majority sentiment?

Possibly something to do with power dynamics?

The point is that Sam is a tourist/expat interacting with police overseas. You just shut up and keep quiet, even if you are right.

My story is highlighting that if you are in a position of weakness, you will get hosed up despite the overall average power imbalance of the world.

Electric Wrigglies fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Mar 6, 2024

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Electric Wrigglies posted:

The point is that Sam is a tourist/expat interacting with police overseas. You just shut up and keep quiet, even if you are right.

My story is highlighting that if you are in a position of weakness, you will get hosed up despite the overall average power imbalance of the world.

Ah ok, we were all scoffing at being called a racial slur. Not at the inevitable outcome of being a minority interacting with police in any respect.

EDIT: Wait but Sam does always have the power imbalance against her, what?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

hooman posted:

Can you see how there could possibly be a difference between anti-minority and anti-majority sentiment?

Possibly something to do with power dynamics?

Don't racially vilify anyone is my controversial take.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Who is Sam Kerr someone gimme the skinny

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Lid posted:

context mate

Matildas captain Sam Kerr called a police officer “a stupid white bastard” during a dispute over a taxi fare last year, UK newspaper The Sun has reported.

Kerr, who has pleaded not guilty and is fighting to have a charge of racially harassing the police officer thrown out of court, was reported to have been sick in the cab after a night out and is then alleged to have unleashed the slur when police arrived.

Britpol your cops are weak as piss

"White" as a slur, what pathetic cunts.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

JBP posted:

Don't racially vilify anyone is my controversial take.

It's closer to your usual quality but still weak.

C-

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Megillah Gorilla posted:

"White" as a slur, what pathetic cunts.


Weren't you the dude who said China liquidated the staff off the wuhan Virology facility for some reason?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Megillah Gorilla posted:

"White" as a slur, what pathetic cunts.

White Australia policy. Extremely racist, but not against who you'd think!

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

The Peccadillo posted:

Weren't you the dude who said China liquidated the staff off the wuhan Virology facility for some reason?

Uh, not as far as I can remember. That doesn't make any sense why they would.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Oh sorry. Who was that?

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

Comstar posted:

When the alternative to peaceful protest for blocking half a road for 30 minutes is 3 weeks immediately jail the alternative is violent protest for 3 minutes and 3 years in jail.

If I get killed during one of these events, please blame the Government. Because this poo poo is inevitable.


Eventually it gets to the point of either being late and go to jail or violent revolution and go to jail (if you fail). More than 1 government has fallen over that.

I don't wanna go on a list, but violent protest isn't the answer. Industrial level sabotage is. Why block the road when you can concrete the gas tanks of the trucks? Why attack a cop when you can shut down a power grid?

I'm just waiting for climate activists to turn into climate terrorists to show their utter disdain for the current state of the world. Someone's going to blow up an oil pipeline in such a way it doesn't cause an ecological disaster, it's just a question of how.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
I think the reason that you don't see more domestic terrorism from climate change activists is that potential ecological impact aside, on balance cutting off critical infrastructure has an overwhelmingly higher impact on the poor and vulnerable.

Blocking traffic is far less likely to impact the cost of living, or destroy a fortnight's worth of food the day after shopping day etc.

23 Skidoo
Dec 21, 2006

Don Dongington posted:

...on balance cutting off critical infrastructure has an overwhelmingly higher impact on the poor and vulnerable.

On this... these protestors/ER just pissed off a lot of people on a commute and could've at least provided a few dunnies/portaloos and some vegan grub. Could've been a great gathering of people who had time off work with a legit reason without recourse, whilst being fed and provided a way to piss or poo poo whilst they're stuck on the bridge for 2 hours. Also could be educated by ER people more broadly on the impact of Anthropogenic Climate Change if they wanted.

Thankfully no-one died as a direct result of the protest i.e. Ambulances needing to get through. Yeah, more people will die in a massive capacity in the coming decades regardless of how fast we shift to renewables, but somehow optics keep people enthralled.

*takes boot out of mouth, swallows dirt on tongue and continues to minimise personal footprint which has no bearing on global geopolitical security of 'oil' and 'coal' and 'gas'*

I'm mostly kidding, but I can't think of ways to improve optics of non-violent protests.

I also don't want to end up on a list I'm not already on, so I won't be overly reactionary and I'll simply state I feel as though peaceful protests like these just end up as footnotes on the day's news. I've had it up to my eyeballs with the inaction, lack of traction and fundamentally flawed energy policy.
But... we'll get there. I have to believe this.

Also, they'll just get heavy haulage for concrete-filled gas tanks.

To go to a really reductionist take... for every action there is an equal and opposite (and near neutral) reaction.

For example: Design an ICE that literally guzzles fuel and pumps out huge amounts (but just under the legal limit) toxic fumes... the equal/opposite reaction may be banning petrol guzzlers completely. Or we'll have a quasi-'murican reactionary group buying them up and using them out of spite. Can never tell with these things.

*puts boot back in mouth*

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

23 Skidoo posted:

Also could be educated by ER people more broadly on the impact of Anthropogenic Climate Change if they wanted.

Me stuck in traffic for two hours on the West Gate in the year 2024: "oh drat I'd never heard of climate change, this sounds bad"

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

freebooter posted:

Me stuck in traffic for two hours on the West Gate in the year 2024: "oh drat I'd never heard of climate change, this sounds bad"

I agree, extinction rebellion should draw on the many examples throughout history of successful protests that didn’t inconvenience anyone.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
LOLWUT is that all that Kerr said? Just called a cop a white bastard? And she is really being charged for that? Thats so pathetic

JBP posted:

Don't racially vilify anyone is my controversial take.

Yeah nah, 10 bucks says the cop said something first

23 Skidoo
Dec 21, 2006

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

10 bucks says the cop said something first

Probably.

Also, highly ironic that Kerr is charged for what is essentially drunken disorderly when Victoria literally just got rid of those laws. Who do they predominantly get used against? What a white bastard.

Also, those 12 months before they laid the charges must've been hell. Imagine. Being a privileged authority figure who should remain calm under pressure whilst being white today is so hard smdh

GrandMaster
Aug 15, 2004
laidback
ACAWB

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

birdstrike posted:

hambeet is a cop????
No he just thinks he is.

The Peccadillo posted:

Who is Sam Kerr someone gimme the skinny
Sam Kerr is possibly the leading woman's sports person in the world atm. She is the Maradonna of woman's football. She is also a lesbian. She is an Australian of mixed race heritage with 1/4 Indian subcontinent. Beyond that I don't know much. As an Australian sports person I would assume there to be a high degree of 'ladism' and generally poor behaviour.

On the other side of the story ACAB. It will be great to see the body cam footage when it is finally released/leaked. The cops are doubling down and her court appearance is scheduled to run over four days. Fortunately Kerr can cover the costs and her club is standing by her.

-/-

Violent protests are the bane of leftist groups. I have been tempted to destroy logging equipment (etc.). It seems like a way forward but it is immediately counter productive. The evil bastards you wanted to screw over just push the wreckage down a gully and buy another. By the destruction you have contributed to waste and done nothing towards prevention. This is without factoring in the 'moral' pearl clutching side of things. However it is hard to oppose these protests unless there is a clearly articulable alternative to them. Angry poetry slam? 500 page manifesto?

Speaking of which, BINGO! What do I win?

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

*ACASWB

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

If you're the captain of a national sports team, and an extremely popular role model who is almost single-handedly responsible for getting an entire generation of girls into soccer, and a big chunk of the good-will of a nation is resting on your shoulders, please try not to call foreign police stupid bastards, and please try to avoid doing things that can be described as being based on race.

I mean we don't know exactly what went down, but if an Australian is throwing up in the back of a cab in London they're not generally the heroes of the story.

Facing criminal charges for it is of course loving ridiculous.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Bucky Fullminster posted:

If you're the captain of a national sports team, and an extremely popular role model who is almost single-handedly responsible for getting an entire generation of girls into soccer, and a big chunk of the good-will of a nation is resting on your shoulders, please try not to call foreign police stupid bastards, and please try to avoid doing things that can be described as being based on race.

I mean we don't know exactly what went down, but if an Australian is throwing up in the back of a cab in London they're not generally the heroes of the story.

Facing criminal charges for it is of course loving ridiculous.

this post is worse than refugee trash city

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

But what if they are stupid bastards? (they are)

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

fine, do what you want, who gives a poo poo

let a million girls' idol get dragged through the headlines for a few cycles

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Bucky Fullminster posted:

fine, do what you want, who gives a poo poo

let a million girls' idol get dragged through the headlines for a few cycles

Silver lining, maybe they will learn early that acab

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

Sam is a millionaire who IT SOUNDS LIKE damaged the car of an Uber driver and then refused to pay.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

lol at what she said being 'racial' but also lol at being a foreigner and picking a fight with a loving cop. like thats the FIRST THING people tell you not to do overseas. doing it while being a gay and brown person might as well just go and walk straight into a holding cell.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Our young women should learn that cops deserve 0 respect and Sam is out here doing gods work.

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Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
Should have put her kicking skills to use and kicked the cop in the nards

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