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Malloc Voidstar posted:wait i missed this bit at the end of https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-announce-gaza-aid-port-construction-state-union-speech-2024-03-07/ choose your fighter: 1) theyre already thinking about turning gaza into an industrial park once everyone who lives there is dead 2) this was a completely off the dome take and everything is being made up on the spot as it happens
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docbeard posted:Is it too cynical to think that this is all a plan to blame the Houthi blockade for Gaza not getting aid? I don't think there is a plan at the moment. It's all off the dome.
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Malloc Voidstar posted:wait i missed this bit at the end of https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-announce-gaza-aid-port-construction-state-union-speech-2024-03-07/  
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I'm torn between Israel blows up this port with a "Hamas" rocket, or the US is just going to take over the occupation of Gaza because that way they can keep feeding the beast and it makes it harder to extradite the US from all this.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Yeah but per that report, the Class 4 material "Construction materials, including installed equipment and all fortification and barrier materials" is in short supply and also... they can't get anything done in a few weeks because military construction (IMO, reading between the lines) was badly undermined to give more work to private contractors over the past 30 years: lol. every god damned thing just completely gutted by neoliberalism. they can't even put together construction cost estimates lmao well, in theory a temporary port should be quicker to build anyway
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The Oldest Man posted:choose your fighter: they were banking on the ceasefire for the sotu and that didnt work so they gotta make up some bullshit to go on msnbc about
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Saw a post saying that it would actually be the Army setting up the port with these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Transportation_Brigade_(United_States) I don't think this port is ever getting built
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Death By The Blues posted:lmao the dutch joining prosperity guardian Would be such a shame if something bad happened to it.
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What happened to the concept of peace keeping? Why hasn't that been brought up.... Just flood the loving place with blue helmets...
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I'm sending a paddle boat to help defend the red sea
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Griz posted:this actually exists and has its own wiki page is it kosher to tell alexa to turn lights on and off on the sabbath?
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apatheticman posted:What happened to the concept of peace keeping? that would obstruct the genocide
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McKinsey sent me in a life jacket with a card board box of fisher price tools. I'm here to build your port
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apatheticman posted:What happened to the concept of peace keeping? Israel has a habit of targeting UNIFIL, UNDOF, and UNTSO "by accident" 
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Malloc Voidstar posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/spain-pledges-extra-20-mln-euros-aid-unrwa-2024-03-07/ What's up with Spain lol, they've been less openly genocidal than the rest of NATO during this genocide
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"Biden is supporting a genocide." "Actually these new aid drops and the president taking the enormous step of building a port show the administration takes the issue of Gaza seriously and is doing all it can to aid the suffering there." thats it. millions will be spent to paraphrase these words so democratic party flacks can say this on reflex and wash their hands of the genocide. this is why it is happening
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Bro Dad posted:"Biden is supporting a genocide." Well yes, but people are going to ask to see the port at some point.
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Bro Dad posted:"Biden is supporting a genocide." the thing is no-one is buying this garbage aside from psycho liberals
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quote:Based on the description provided by White House and military officials, the temporary port for aid delivery would be built from U.S. ships, and then moved close to shore, attached to some kind of temporary causeway. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/07/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news
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How much time will this bullshit port buy them? I think they need one more fake humanitarian project before election.
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nothing because its very easy to say maybe stop sending endless military aid and diplomatic cover and allow the kilometers of trucks in all achievable with a phone-call also this pretty much is a guarantee it goes no-where Israel would be involved in the inspection process, and the World Central Kitchen, Chef José Andrés’s organization, would bring the aid to shore using smaller boats, the official said. World Central Kitchen already has volunteers on the ground in Gaza.
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HallelujahLee posted:the thing is no-one is buying this garbage aside from psycho liberals i didnt say it was a good plan
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Israel would be involved in the inspection process, and the World Central Kitchen, Chef José Andrés’s organization, would bring the aid to shore using smaller boats, the official said. World Central Kitchen already has volunteers on the ground in Gaza. i'm going to fuckign scream. this chef motherfucker is the secret power broker of DC
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Israel would be involved in the inspection process, and the World Central Kitchen, Chef José Andrés’s organization, would bring the aid to shore using smaller boats, the official said. World Central Kitchen already has volunteers on the ground in Gaza. https://twitter.com/chefjoseandres/status/1755341227044622626?t=rzRemdlbnCQ_tAS3Qh8L4Q&s=19 The Chef today Is retweeting stuff by Razom (Ukrainian AIPAC) advocating for the war bill that gives billions to Ukraine and the IOF. https://twitter.com/razomforukraine/status/1765445118910165209?t=9-H1r4yuDS7ZKu-9o0UQWw&s=19
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I cannot understand how any of this is superior to just letting more loving trucks in?! Like it seems like such a pointlessly expensive suggestion compared to the free good will of just unthrottling regular aid access? What is the actual point of a stunt like this?
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/chefjoseandres/status/1755341227044622626?t=rzRemdlbnCQ_tAS3Qh8L4Q&s=19 this might literally be approaching burgerposting but he has the DC local government wrapped around his finger, he's the secret president as far as im concerned
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Men would literally rather build a port than cut off their toxic friends
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GoLambo posted:I cannot understand how any of this is superior to just letting more loving trucks in?! Like it seems like such a pointlessly expensive suggestion compared to the free good will of just unthrottling regular aid access? What is the actual point of a stunt like this? https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1764526593156739576?t=HnvNZElDBUS12R-IFm1YGA&s=19 Raskolnikov38 posted:Israel would be involved in the inspection process, and the World Central Kitchen, Chef José Andrés’s organization, would bring the aid to shore using smaller boats, the official said. World Central Kitchen already has volunteers on the ground in Gaza. https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1763271645114810618?t=wvO-q023TJpx7BVmG4udTg&s=19
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GoLambo posted:I cannot understand how any of this is superior to just letting more loving trucks in?! Like it seems like such a pointlessly expensive suggestion compared to the free good will of just unthrottling regular aid access? What is the actual point of a stunt like this? The Israelis (are) were really going to starve everybody in Gaza to death, almost 600,000 people. This stops that, this creates the physical logistics system capable of feeding that many people, but I very much don’t see this being likely to continue if Biden loses the election. The US election now has existential consequences for Gaza. It’s now very clear that one candidate is worse in the issue than the other. If they are willing to do this, they (the Biden administration) are likely (but clearly 100% not publicly) threatening the Israelis with other consequences.
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GoLambo posted:I cannot understand how any of this is superior to just letting more loving trucks in?! Like it seems like such a pointlessly expensive suggestion compared to the free good will of just unthrottling regular aid access? What is the actual point of a stunt like this? it's to pretend to do something to provide cover for israel finishing up nakba 2 so people can convince themselves they're not party to genocide the us doesn't want to distribute aid any more than the israeilis, because they want to ethnically cleanse gaza. a port in two+ months does absolutely nothing for the thousands of palestinians that will starve to death in the meantime
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I dredged up (ha) the latest publicly available manual, and no chance is this happening. It won't be resourced, it won't be allowed to happen by Israel, I doubt the military is even capable of it anymore.  It's a very impressive document laying out everything up to building major container ports, ports than can unload tankers, or even berths for major warships but, and I'm kicking myself for not thinking about this, lol like the second step is landing troops ashore to do survey work and take sand and soil samples.
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Al-Saqr posted:Israels defence minister throws in the towel, admits theres no way to defeat hamas militarily hey i know this is from a couple pages back but lol @ the fact that the Israeli Defense Minister looks like JK Simmons playing Neo-Nazi Vernon Schillinger on Oz
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I assume if this is real at all, it's just copying Andrés's preexisting plan that Israel has been rejectingquote:One of the difficulties is covering the last nautical mile to deliver aid to the coast, as Israel does not want anything or anyone to approach the shore at that proximity. “We have to present Israel with a plan to show that we don’t have too much contact with the Gazans,” Camps explains. He assures that they have presented a technical project with different alternatives, getting around the problem of that last mile. “In the last few meters, you can throw the food onto platforms that reach the beaches, and from there José Andrés’ organization, which is made up of Palestinians, would take care of the control and distribution.” https://english.elpais.com/internat...obox=1709824128
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Al-Saqr posted:one day i hope one day i can grab every egyptian military officer and mohammad bin zayed and throw them in a hole with no food or water and make a livestream of them starving to death and eating each other for their loving refusal to do the one human thing and open the loving rafah crossing god drat them to loving hell I second this! https://x.com/middleeasteye/status/1765812531476459671?s=46
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