|
Failed Imagineer posted:Yeah the smuggling bit was , for me, the only genuinely underexplained bit in the whole movie Something like: "Nice to see you old friend! Sorry about destroying your harvester and killing a good chunk of the crew you were so chummy with. Anyway, up for killing some Harkonnen?"
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 10:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 20:10 |
|
|
I thought it was kinda lame that Gurney’s still alive. It felt really ballsy in the first movie to have a prominent character played by a big-name actor basically die off screen. Instead he returns with a sucky explanation for how he eluded death and exists only to locate the nukes.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 10:29
|
|
|
If you're not into characters improbably returning then you're better off tapping out of the series here lol
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 10:48
|
|
|
Vegetable posted:I thought it was kinda lame that Gurney’s still alive. It felt really ballsy in the first movie to have a prominent character played by a big-name actor basically die off screen. Instead he returns with a sucky explanation for how he eluded death and exists only to locate the nukes. It's a book thing- Seemlar's explanation a few posts back takes away the lameness. Anyway. The sheer whimsy of that sail-driven spice miner! Just give me a movie about that and I'll be happy. Failed Imagineer posted:If you're not into characters improbably returning then you're better off tapping out of the series here lol LOLOL
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 10:50
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:If you're not into characters improbably returning then you're better off tapping out of the series here lol lmao vv (later books spoiler) vv 
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 11:24
|
|
|
Oh one genuine continuity error I noticed on the second watch is Chani and the Fremen popping out of the sand to attack the Emperor's palace -- they're the attackers in this one! How did they bury themselves right in front of the Sardaukar army without being noticed???
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 13:24
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:If you're not into characters improbably returning then you're better off tapping out of the series here lol 
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 13:26
|
|
|
Arglebargle III posted:Oh one genuine continuity error I noticed on the second watch is Chani and the Fremen popping out of the sand to attack the Emperor's palace -- they're the attackers in this one! How did they bury themselves right in front of the Sardaukar army without being noticed??? because Paul foresaw where and when the emperor would land, before the sardaukar arrived
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 13:29
|
|
|
A small suitcase containing a personal shield generator, a laser gun, and a timed trigger mechanism for both.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:01
|
|
|
kalel posted:because Paul foresaw where and when the emperor would land, before the sardaukar arrived Chani has scenes right before that!
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:07
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:If you're not into characters improbably returning then you're better off tapping out of the series here lol 
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:09
|
|
|
Arglebargle III posted:Chani has scenes right before that! oh yeah lol. maybe they tunneled under the ground like some kind of sand moles the actual reason is to retroactively maintain visual fidelity with Paul's vision in the first film, which itself was probably there just to have an action scene to put in the trailer
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:18
|
|
|
The original Dune book was really good and a masterpiece of mid 20th century SF. The other books it seems were....quite less so. Maybe for the time they were considered good, but are they aging well?
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:23
|
|
|
No they suck rear end
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:25
|
|
|
Cimber posted:The original Dune book was really good and a masterpiece of mid 20th century SF. The other books it seems were....quite less so. Maybe for the time they were considered good, but are they aging well? Imo book 3 is pretty stupid, but 1-4 all together form a surprisingly cohesive arc that follows through really well on the hints in the first book. After 4 it gets weirder and dumber and there's more baffling sex ideas and then the son takes over and just no
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:28
|
|
|
Cimber posted:The original Dune book was really good and a masterpiece of mid 20th century SF. The other books it seems were....quite less so. Maybe for the time they were considered good, but are they aging well? Opinions of someone who's read the original Dune multiple times over the years but only tackled the sequels recently: Dune Messiah is pretty great (though, like most of the Dune books, a lot less action heavy than the first, which leads me to wonder how satisfying the third movie is going to be really). Children of Dune is hit or miss but has its moments. God Emperor of Dune is loving WEIRD in the best way, definitely worth reading this far in the series IMO. I'm about 100 pages into Chapterhouse right now and that one and Heretics are both pretty bad but entertaining enough if you're still jonesing for more Dune past God Emperor.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 14:38
|
|
|
Cimber posted:The original Dune book was really good and a masterpiece of mid 20th century SF. The other books it seems were....quite less so. Maybe for the time they were considered good, but are they aging well? Messiah finishes out the themes set up in Dune (and it isn't subtle at all about them). It's a good coda and a good wrap-up for Paul's story and the consequences of his actions, and the themes still have a lot of weight today in my opinion. Children of Dune is pretty absurd, and while the plot sets up God Emperor, I think it's skippable. There isn't a lot of meat on the bones of that story. God Emperor is bonkers in every way, but it's more of a philosophy text than an actual novel. It does a good job of wrapping up the Atreides story. I liked it much more than Messiah or Children of Dune, but I've never had an urge to re-read it. I stopped there and I'm glad I did. Everything following just sounds terrible. Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 8, 2024 |
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 15:09
|
|
|
Movie/Messiah spoiler I noticed some chunky Matrix parallels in this movie. Morpheus and Stilgar are a very similar character now. Chani brings Paul back to life on a technical prophecy similar to how Trinity brings back Neo. (Matrix Revolutions cribbed from Dune in making the protagonist go blind (but still see) before the end of his arc, so I mean I guess that's fair.) Wondering if anyone here caught any other parallels or if I'm just seeing things.
Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Mar 8, 2024 |
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 15:17
|
|
|
The sad thing about the Sci fi tv series not continuing past the second is that we never get to see James mcavoy as a millenia year old worm
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 15:26
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:If you're not into characters improbably returning then you're better off tapping out of the series here lol
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 15:35
|
|
|
Really creeped out at all the press outlets who are calling Feyd-Rautha 'hot' and 'sexy'. I am do not find many men or women or anything sexy, so that might be part of it. And I could be kink shaming. But I don't think it's that. Get you a hairless, deathly pale barely-human looking guy who dresses like the grim reaper, talks in a mezzo-soprano with a wrench stuck in the windpipe, and loves nothing more than murder? That's our type now? The actor is hot. But the character he plays isn't lol
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 16:30
|
|
|
Bright Bart posted:Really creeped out at all the press outlets who are calling Feyd-Rautha 'hot' and 'sexy'. I am do not find many men or women or anything sexy, so that might be part of it. And I could be kink shaming. But I don't think it's that. He's by far the horniest character of the cast, has several scenes showing off his abs and the Harkonnens have that BDSM aesthetic going on. Guess people resonate with that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 16:36
|
|
|
Bright Bart posted:Really creeped out at all the press outlets who are calling Feyd-Rautha 'hot' and 'sexy'. I am do not find many men or women or anything sexy, so that might be part of it. And I could be kink shaming. But I don't think it's that. Not a fan of the "We have Cenobites at home" aesthetics?
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 16:38
|
|
|
Fuckboy Voldemort
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 16:55
|
|
|
Goth Engineer Edit: hey wait a second Jon Spaights wrote on this and he also wrote on Prometheus. What does he have for pale bald guys
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:01
|
|
|
God-Emperor is easily the second best book in the series but it's also deeply weird. Heretics and Chapterhouse are stupid but I found them very fun if you are willing to just roll with it. In some ways them being so catastrophically horny is the most interesting thing about them.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:05
|
|
|
👅🔪
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:14
|
|
|
Sort of in parallel with someone likeCS Lewis becoming more super religious as he aged with his writing- Herbert got more H O R N Y
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:18
|
|
|
Finally saw dunc2 last night and I think I liked it more than the first one. The changes in the first movie removed a lot of the intrigue that made the first half of the book so appealing, and it's kind of the opposite for this one. The pacing is bizarre, though, there are a lot of parts where it really feels like they just deleted a chunk of video in the editing software and, much like the book, it somehow feels both protracted and rushed. It's also a shame that we didn't get more psychedelic imagery in this one, but I think I've come to accept that Villeneuve doesn't have it in him (and to be fair the first book is pretty plain outside of the wormdrugs moments - the Harkonnen Nazi-Giger-Olympics stylings were a welcome addition). It almost feels like there's a pathological fear of alienating the audience or of calling too much attention to the Lynch film. I appreciated the Blue Velvet callback with the ants in the ear, though. One note I appreciated was just how funny this movie is, our audience was laughing consistently throughout. Chani blasting that guy point-blank with a giant rocket, lol. The reveal of the Fremen all riding the worm also got a laugh. Just takin' the bus downtown.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:25
|
|
|
Susan is practically an Honored Matre with that whorish lipstick.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:25
|
|
|
Huh. Leto’s dad died bullfighting? Is that why the gladiator fight had guys with bull horns?
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:29
|
|
|
Steve Yun posted:Huh. Leto’s dad died bullfighting? Is that why the gladiator fight had guys with bull horns? I think they're meant to look like jesters.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:35
|
|
|
jeeves posted:Sort of in parallel with someone likeCS Lewis becoming more super religious as he aged with his writing- Herbert got more H O R N Y That happens to (almost) all SF authors. Worse for some. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:51
|
|
|
Zopotantor posted:That happens to (almost) all SF authors. Worse for some. Orson Scott Card worked around this by building the prepubescent shower scenes into the very first book of his acclaimed series
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:56
|
|
|
Is it pronounced Dunk or Dunce?
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 17:59
|
|
|
Doonc.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 18:03
|
|
|
Duncan
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 18:08
|
|
|
Arrakis.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 18:18
|
|
|
Jakku
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 18:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 20:10 |
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:If you're not into characters improbably returning then you're better off tapping out of the series here lol Somehow, Duncan has returned.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2024 18:37
|
|
