i say swears online posted:

A Buttery Pastry posted:

this is only a problem if you insist that things have to be a lovely desert though.

It depends a lot on the type of building, but yeah, a lot of buildings would crumble way before the maximum expected life of the more durable ones. (There's also a difference between "completely unsafe for people" and "crumbled to the point that the building is not identifiable as a building".)

You're missing the point that people think the environments suck rear end, and that the East Coast bleakness is actually just the developers lazily applying the desert theme of the earlier games and applying an East Coast filter.

uber_stoat posted:

he invented Goku. a life well lived.

Tankbuster posted:

how is there a desert theme in the later games? It takes place in the fall.

Buck Wildman posted:

obviously dragon ball is going to be in most folk's minds but for me it's truly the death of the guy who worked on dragon quest. not sure what it'll mean for the design on that series, it'll never be the same

Al! posted:

i was just thinking this morning, has there ever been a greater cultural wasteland in the united states than the early bush years?

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I think that in response to a lot of the censorship battles of the 80s and 90s, there was a genre spanning multiple cultural avenues that basically consisted of doing the most crass, vulgar, unacceptable thing that you could just because you could and it took us pushing that envelope to it's edge to accept that maybe the reason that we don't joke around about certain topics isn't that they are taboo or sacred cows but that there's just not that much humor to be mined from the subject of "dead babies".

Scarabrae posted:

Not doing the time skip and jamming the last half the books plot together ruined Dune2 for me and I’ve been in a depressed funk ever since seeing it. The characters motivations are far less believable in the time frame shown.

ya know whatever man

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I think that in response to a lot of the censorship battles of the 80s and 90s, there was a genre spanning multiple cultural avenues that basically consisted of doing the most crass, vulgar, unacceptable thing that you could just because you could and it took us pushing that envelope to it's edge to accept that maybe the reason that we don't joke around about certain topics isn't that they are taboo or sacred cows but that there's just not that much humor to be mined from the subject of "dead babies".

Al! posted:

it was pushing the envelope, for 12 year olds and boomers i guess but people who were adults in like 2002 could see that marylin manson and numetal were cringe right

Al! posted:

it was pushing the envelope, for 12 year olds and boomers i guess but people who were adults in like 2002 could see that marylin manson and numetal were cringe right

Al! posted:

it was pushing the envelope, for 12 year olds and boomers i guess but people who were adults in like 2002 could see that marylin manson and numetal were cringe right

loquacius posted:

The thing is that adults always think things kids are into are cringe and it's impossible to judge whether they were correct until the cultural moment passes

i say swears online posted:

kanye didn't even get going 'til 2004 and outkast was on top of the world in the early 2000s so it's a different world compared to rock music

i say swears online posted:

yeah early 2000s were gross but it was a direct reaction to the bubblegum sterility of the 90s i guess

quote:

Well, I see 'em every night in tight blue jeans
In the pages of a Blueboy magazine
Hey, hey, I've been thinking of a new sensation
I'm picking up good vibrations
Oop, she bop, she bop

Do I wanna go out with a lion's roar?
Yeah, I wanna go south and get me some more
Hey, they say that a stitch in time saves nine
They say I better stop or I'll go blind
Oop, she bop, she bop

She bop, he bop, we bop
I bop, you bop, they bop
Be bop, be bop, a lu bop
(I hope he will understand)

She bop, he bop, we bop
I bop, you bop, they bop
Be bop, be bop, a lu she bop
Oh, she do, she bop

Hey, hey they say I better get a chaperone
Because I can't stop messin' with the danger zone
Hey, hey I won't worry, and I won't fret
Ain't no law against it yet
Oop, she bop, she bop

She bop, he bop, we bop
I bop, you bop, they bop
Be bop, be bop, a lu bop
(I hope he will understand)

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

here are the lyrics to Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop", a song that was determined to be one of the "Filthy Fifteen" by the Parents Music Resource Center in 1985:

Plank Walker posted:

idk that that's the lens i see it through. the 90s were a reaction to the slick overproduction of the 80s, stripping things down to "grunge", then slowly ramping back up to 80s level of slickness but trying really really hard to avoid being overtly flamboyant, which was what made the 80s aesthetic work

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

Andrew WK was a Big Album for me in college. poo poo was bad.

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

Culture always moves in waves of "This sucks" -> "Actually it's cool" -> "Actually it sucks tho." -> "But actually, when you think about it, it's kind of cool."

aw frig aw dang it posted:

yeah same. idk which 90s people were living through that they're describing this way. maybe they were literal children tho? I guess Barney was bullshit if you were 8

Al! posted:

afaik no subsequent generation has wanted to touch nu metal except with scattered bands that suck in the same way, like Ghost

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

yes i was a literal child during the 90s and therefore consuming the most mainstream entertainment possible

loquacius posted:

Indie rock halftime show

Get the Decemberists up there playing mandolin or whatever

Have Bright Eyes do an all-acoustic set with one spotlight on him and that's it

Al! posted:

afaik no subsequent generation has wanted to touch nu metal except with scattered bands that suck in the same way, like Ghost

aw frig aw dang it posted:

skill issue then. get older

Al! posted:

i was just thinking this morning, has there ever been a greater cultural wasteland in the united states than the early bush years?

Al! posted:

i was just thinking this morning, has there ever been a greater cultural wasteland in the united states than the early bush years?