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Nothing is set in stone yet, but gently caress this does not sound good: https://x.com/SumoFollower/status/1766119628294492643 https://x.com/SumoFollower/status/1766119633516474815
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This seems like an incredibly short sighted decision. Does anyone have context for how Japanese fans have reacted to this saga? I've only heard bits from Chris Sumo videos. I imagine there are some folks who have a similar mindset as the jsa, complete with xenophobic undertones, but I get the impression that Hakuho was well liked as a rikishi among the average sumo fans.
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Rolling things up in this manner suggests to me that there was never any serious intention towards fixing the situation, just a desire to draw out the humiliation and avoid scandal.
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Mar 8, 2024 20:11
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Fearless posted:Rolling things up in this manner suggests to me that there was never any serious intention towards fixing the situation, just a desire to draw out the humiliation and avoid scandal. Yep. They're not upset about the bullying, they're upset that it got exposed. And also they've been looking for any excuse to completely destroy Hakuho and this is it. They're still salty that the literal GOAT is Mongolian
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Mar 8, 2024 21:16
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They're salty that he spent a decade refusing to kiss their feet and they were powerless to stop him, to the point of pushing Kisenosato to an early retirement to fix their wounded pride. It's so transparently vanity.
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Bentai posted:Nothing is set in stone yet, but gently caress this does not sound good: lol his replies https://twitter.com/SumoFollower/status/1766127518388465717 https://twitter.com/SumoFollower/status/1766134189080948894 https://twitter.com/SumoFollower/status/1766196227131978099 https://twitter.com/SumoFollower/status/1766194783880388976
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Lid posted:They're salty that he spent a decade refusing to kiss their feet and they were powerless to stop him, to the point of pushing Kisenosato to an early retirement to fix their wounded pride. It's so transparently vanity. I honestly think a number of people in the org would actually be quite pleased if this sort of poo poo cost the sport viewers and popularity, as the more isolated it is the more they can run it like their own little fiefdom.
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Mar 8, 2024 21:46
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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2024/03/06/sumo/sumo-struggling-recruitment/ Popularity is up, but recruitment is down. They just had their smallest ever new class of wrestlers, 27.
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Fearless posted:Rolling things up in this manner suggests to me that there was never any serious intention towards fixing the situation, just a desire to draw out the humiliation and avoid scandal. I feel very bad for Hakuho because he sank a lot of his own money into founding that stable. There were some who predicted he would get ratfucked in such a manner but it's so ridiculously blatant.
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Yeah, I'm sure the clan isn't making sure the association has not idea what will or won't be said.  Honestly, part of me hopes that Hak just tells them to eat the entirety of his rear end and goes to live a proper life in his ancestral home but the other part of me wants to see him get through this and build the next generation of wrestlers purely out of spite.
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Mar 8, 2024 22:08
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I know his ignoring the ongoing problems for a year is a real bad look for Hak, but I was expecting JSA/Isegahama to at least let him hold onto the stable after a period of training. Welp. 
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Bentai posted:I know his ignoring the ongoing problems for a year is a real bad look for Hak, but I was expecting JSA/Isegahama to at least let him hold onto the stable after a period of training. I'm really disappointed that Miyagino ignored what sounds like a longstanding pattern of poo poo behaviour from Hokuseiho, and both of them absolutely do deserve some kind of corrective action. But what the JSA appears to be up to seems so stupid and short-sighted. Publicly humiliate a guy who's got a proven track record of marching to his own drum and cast him out... only leaves him entirely free to say and do whatever he wants because the JSA can't sanction him any further once he's left the organization. And I'm certain that Miyagino knows well enough what kind of grime the other elders have under their nails. Were I in his shoes, if I got forced out I'd let rip with everything I knew and give the shitheads the scandal they've been so anxious to avoid.
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I'm really not trying to be an rear end in a top hat here, but it's hard for me to feel particularly mad or bad for hakuho in this- regardless of the punishment other lovely coaches get, no one seems to particularly contest he was being a deeply lovely coach. I fail to see why I should really want him building the next generation as things stand. *At best* he comes off as sort of an absentee coach who had way too much other poo poo going on. I do feel deeply bad for the wrestlers, of course, but I also don't know if keeping that heya together is really the best outcome for them either
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Mar 8, 2024 22:33
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I agree with that. It would be a lovely, ignominious way for the GOAT to go out, but he did a lovely, ignominious thing! He knowingly let some pretty serious abuse go on at his stable for an extended period of time and there's nothing in the way of mitigating circumstances other than what, all his extracurriculars like the Hakuho Cup? If he's going to take on the responsibility of running a stable that should be his first priority. In my opinion booting him from the sumo association entirely would be too much, but taking the heya away and maybe letting him try again 5 or 10 years down the road would be harsh but not unwarranted.
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Mar 8, 2024 22:52
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I don't think there's any reason to pretend there haven't been hazing or violence scandals in sumo before, but oddly the punishments never seemed to be this harsh. It's good for such behavior to be punished but I doubt the leadership's sincerity. In any case, it seems likely they'll get their wish of having their hands clean of Hakuho.
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It's entirely possible for Hakuho to be the greatest athlete in a sport but a huge, colossal shithead at the same time. Hokuseiho was his recruit. They'd been together in the heya for years. I assume Hakuho's influence there was overwhelming even when he wasn't the official leader. The association knows him better than anyone else. It feels entirely likely that their resistance to him becoming the stablemaster was grounded in a total lack of confidence that he could do it, which was immediately proven right! Hakuho loving sucks as a stablemaster! I really think that people in this thread want to let too much from him slide because they liked his wrestling.
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Are they treating Hak differently than others, yeah, probably, but if the Hokuseiho stuff is true and there's little reason to believe otherwise, then he doesn't deserve to be a stablemaster. Who cares if he's the GOAT. Great atheletes make lovely coaches all the time. The good thing to do would be to kick out all the other lovely coaches too, not let Hak get away with poo poo because they've let others get away with it.
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Look on the bright side. I’m looking forward to having Hakuho take my order at Meat Land in November.
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Y/O: Terunofuji Kirishima Hoshoryu S/K: Wakamotoharu Nishikigi Daieisho M1-5: Asanoyama Tobizaru Midorifuji M6-10: Kinbozan Gonoyama Hokutofuji M11+: Ryuden Roga Endo Juryo: Wakatakage Hakuoho Aoiyama
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I'm actually really invested in how rikishi from Futagoyama-beya do this basho since I've watched so many of their cooking videos. Nabatame could make Juryo this tournament if he posts a good score at Makushita 5.
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Y/O: Kotonowaka Kirishima Hoshoryu S/K: Daieisho Wakamotoharu Nishikigi M1-5: Asanoyama Onosato Hiradoumi M6-10: Takerufuji Tamawashi Takayasu M11+: Takerufuji Shimazuumi Churanoumi Juryo: Wakatakage Akua Kotoeko Mawashi color: Cream and dark green.
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As far as Hakuho goes, he should have known he was under serious scrutiny and a serious slip would've given the old guys of sumo a reason to gently caress with him. Shouldn't have let abuse happen under his watch if he didn't want to get hosed with. But he did. Faves be problematic sometimes.
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Y/O: Hoshoryu Kirishima Takakeisho S/K: Abi Wakamotoharu Daieisho M1-5: Oho Onosato Ura M6-10: Onosho Kotoshoho Tsurugisho M11+: Takerufuji Endo Ryuden Juryo: Wakatakakage Hakuoho Tomokaze
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after training hard in february, i'm ready to enjoy fantasy sumo. my picks! Y/O: Hoshoryu Kotonowaka Kirishima S/K: Wakamotoharu Daieisho Nishikigi M1-5: Asanoyama Onosato Atamifuji M6-10: Hokutofuji Shodai Mitakeumi M11+: Roga Shimazuumi Takerufuji Juryo: Hakuoho Shishi Wakatakage Mawashi color: Gold Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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I don't know if it's been mentioned here before, but Disney+ got a cute sumo-series: https://www.disneyplus.com/en-ca/series/sumo-do-sumo-dont/35RKAHulSVtc Lots of typical tropes, etc, but I enjoyed it.
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Y/O: Hoshoryu Takakeisho Kirishima S/K: Wakamotoharu Abi Nishikigi M1-5: Midorifuji Tobizaru Atamifuji M6-10: Hokutofuji Takayasu Shodai M11+: Ichiyamamoto Nishikifuji Roga Juryo: Hakuoho Shishi Aoiyama Thanks for running the fantasy basho again Kenning.
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Vargatron posted:I'm actually really invested in how rikishi from Futagoyama-beya do this basho since I've watched so many of their cooking videos. Nabatame could make Juryo this tournament if he posts a good score at Makushita 5. This. Never thought sumo mukbang would get me to root for a whole beya.
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Y/O: Terunofuji Hoshoryu Kirishima S/K: Wakamotoharu Daieisho Nishikigi M1-5: Onosato Asanoyama Atamifuji M6-10: Kotoshoho Gonoyama Kinbozan M11+: Takerufuji Endo Roga Juryo: Hakuoho Shishi Asakoryu Looking forward to this one! Thanks again Kenning
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Y/O: Kirishima Terunofuji Kotonowaka S/K: Daieisho Wakamotoharu Abi M1-5: Midorifuji Tobizaru Atamifuji M6-10: Shodai Gonoyama Mitakeumi M11+: Ryuden Shimazuumi Shonannoumi Juryo: Wakatakakage Hakuoho Tokihayate Banana Canada, requesting off-white (#ffffe4) for my color. Thanks!
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Y/O: Terunofuji Kirishima Kotonowaka S/K: Wakamotoharu Abi Nishikigi M1-5: Ura Atamifuji Meisei M6-10: Tsurugisho Kinbozan Tamawashi M11+: Sadanoumi Churanoumi Takerufuji Juryo: Takarafuji Wakatakakage Hakuoho
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It's that time again. Y/O: Kirishima Terunofuji Kotonowaka S/K Wakamotoharu Nishikigi Daieisho M1-5: Midorifuji Tobizaru Atamifuji M6-10: Takayasu Shodai Mitakeumi M11+ Takerufuji Nishikifuji Kitanowaka Juryo: Wakatakakage Shishi Hakuoho
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Y/O Kirishima Kotonowaka Hoshoryu S/K Abi Nishikigi Wakamotoharu M1-5 Onosato Ura Midorifuji M6-10 Shodai Hokutofuji Takayasu M11 Endo Ryuden Ichiyamamoto
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Y/O: Kirishima Kotonowaka Hoshoryu S/K: Daieisho Abi Wakamotoharu M1-5: Atamifuji Meisei Onosato M6-10: Gonoyama Kinbozan Takayasu M11+: Myogiryu Ryuden Kitanowaka Juryo: Hakuoho Shishi Aoiyama
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i'm here to ask for links on where ppl are planning on watching march tournament and if there's already a good place can u put it in the OP, thanks.quote:How do I watch sumo if I'm not in Japan? post or private message is ok, i prefer japanese streams with no commentary but i will take what i can get and it's been a while so my subscriptions have been put in youtube jail otherwise im just going to be clicking tags on youtube that pop up 頑張ります thanks
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pseudodragon posted:Oh missed the bit about mawashi color. Do you want it edited into my pick post? I can give you #7DCAC2 if that's okay. I just used the dropper tool on MS Paint and a photo of him with his belt. MS Paint calls it "Teal".
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Banana Canada posted:I can give you #7DCAC2 if that's okay. I just used the dropper tool on MS Paint and a photo of him with his belt. MS Paint calls it "Teal". That's perfect, thanks! Paratan posted:post or private message is ok, Twitch has been a fairly reliable source of sumo watch parties. If you search sumo there should be at least 2 streams from people with sumo in their usernames up during the tourney that have been doing it for awhile now. pseudodragon fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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Paratan posted:i'm here to ask for links on where ppl are planning on watching march tournament and if there's already a good place can u put it in the OP, thanks. Natto continues to play whack-a-mole with the copyright enforcers and has his own Discord where he keeps people updated on new sites/accounts: https://discord.gg/nattosumo He adds nice informative graphics and stuff to his videos and posts the Makushita, Juryo and Makuuchi each day. No commentary, and very limited footage outside of the actual matches though.
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Search "live sumo" on youtube then sort the results by "Live" and you'll get a stream or two. I prefer youtube since the player is better and you can rewind and frame-by frame for close calls
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I'm partial to those that watch party the Abema streams because there's nothing better than watching Wakanohana demonstrate the latest winning kimarite on his sumo partner/crash test dummy/poor SOB.
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