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Giving Big Tablesaw the ol’ intact middle finger
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Scratch Monkey posted:https://i.imgur.com/Ut3w1G5.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/OzXJ393.mp4
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Mar 9, 2024 12:15
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Atticus_1354 posted:How was he selfish? He tried to sell the technology and the big companies said no. He offered to license it for 3% of wholesale and they said no. Then when he built his own company and produced quality saws with his technology the big companies got mad and tried to get the US government to force him to give up his patent. Because even 3% of that market is a disgustingly huge amount for one person to accumulate? He sucks less than those companies but now he IS those companies and that's still bad. Everyone sucks to differing degrees here. Please try to read and comprehend my posts where I identify the real villain.
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Mar 9, 2024 13:17
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ReelBigLizard posted:Because even 3% of that market is a disgustingly huge amount for one person to accumulate? He sucks less than those companies but now he IS those companies and that's still bad. Nah. 3% is a bargain, when it would be the #1 selling point of the machine over other ones without it. Also getting rich, because you personally develop something that makes general well being of people better is IMHO pretty kosher reason to get rich.
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Mar 9, 2024 13:39
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ReelBigLizard posted:Because even 3% of that market is a disgustingly huge amount for one person to accumulate? He sucks less than those companies but now he IS those companies and that's still bad. So you're just mad that this guy wanted to get paid for all the R&D he did and he's the bad guy for his selfish demands and not the much larger companies who could (and some did) have done their own R&D to make a safer product. Your everyone sucks argument definitely sucks.
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Mar 9, 2024 13:41
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Recycling https://i.imgur.com/qbaoe1r.mp4
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Mar 9, 2024 14:00
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Atticus_1354 posted:So you're just mad that this guy wanted to get paid for all the R&D he did and he's the bad guy for his selfish demands and not the much larger companies who could (and some did) have done their own R&D to make a safer product. Your everyone sucks argument definitely sucks. Sure if you put words in my mouth I'm a loving monster.
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Mar 9, 2024 14:16
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Internet OSHA warning: Flame War zone.
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Mar 9, 2024 14:19
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Watching this made my lungs ache
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Mar 9, 2024 14:27
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Vampire Panties posted:Whats the most OSHA thing you saw while working on boats I'll have to think about the most OSHA (or coastgaurd) thing, but one that comes immediately to mind is when I was working on a ~200 passenger ferry boat that went to coastal islands. We got caught in extremely rough weather and every time we went over a wave there was a "clunk" sound coming from the front compartment where we stored the food and whatnot. I went down there and the boat had a concrete slab poured on the floor for ballast; every time we went over a wave this entire concrete slab would lift an inch and crash back down again. I noped the gently caress out of there ASAP. We also had a captain who was afraid of the fog and wouldn't navigate using the radar. The guy was a real antisemitic piece of poo poo who i hated working with, but i always got paired with him because he'd make me drive the boat in dense fog since i know how a loving radar works.
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Mar 9, 2024 14:31
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Platystemon posted:Science has an article about this and other criticality incidents and close calls. Well that was scary as all hell. I like the part where all 11 of the good highly intelligent employees that made up the safety committee all quit because of the awful management that cared more about profit and executive bonuses instead of the workers lives.
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Mar 9, 2024 14:33
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:Watching this made my lungs ache Everyones heard about microplastics Nanoplastics? Ancient history How about some macroplastics
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Mar 9, 2024 15:17
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mobby_6kl posted:Back when she was alive: Taylor Swift died?
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Mar 9, 2024 15:28
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bird with big dick posted:I saw a drunk captain repeatedly trying and failing to run a fish through the crab pot puller pulleys trying to get them to squish the fish and then run over his own fishing gear three different times so that he no longer had enough equipment to actually fish so he drove to the docks and spotted the boat of a guy he worked with parked so he broke into it and stole all the fishing gear and we went back out fishing. Caught a lot of halibut and salmon that day if I recall correctly. Did this happen in Homer AK? being super drunk and fishing for halibut/salmon sounds extremely Alaskan
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Mar 9, 2024 15:45
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Close: Juneau.
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Mar 9, 2024 15:53
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Anyone who gets paid for anything deserves to get their head chopped off. Everything should be free. Everyone should work but not get paid because that makes you rich.
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Mar 9, 2024 16:32
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ReelBigLizard posted:Because even 3% of that market is a disgustingly huge amount for one person to accumulate? He sucks less than those companies but now he IS those companies and that's still bad. And the 97%?
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Mar 9, 2024 17:06
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wesleywillis posted:Anyone who gets paid for anything deserves to get their head chopped off. Just kill everyone who has more money than me IMO
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Mar 9, 2024 17:12
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haveblue posted:Just kill everyone who has more money than me IMO Also everyone who has less money than me, they are lazy freeloaders
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Mar 9, 2024 17:31
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https://i.imgur.com/0LksdKx.mp4 injuries but no deaths roadside work is so unnecessarily terrifying
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Mar 9, 2024 19:33
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LookieLoo posted:And the 97%? Ah yes I forgot only one thing can be bad at a time. Really didn't think "Gatekeeping critical safety equipment as an infinite money hack is bad" was going to be such a hard sell in the Maybe Your Job Shouldn't Kill You Megathread but we live and learn. Anyway I just got off a flight and it was a relief to not see the Boeing logo for once.
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Mar 9, 2024 19:47
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on the completely opposite end of the spectrum of traffic-related content https://i.imgur.com/P5ECB1V.mp4
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Kith posted:on the completely opposite end of the spectrum of traffic-related content This cuts just before the cat decides to turn back.
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Mar 9, 2024 20:02
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I think all table saws should have the not cut your fingers off technology.
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Mar 9, 2024 20:02
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Patents only last 17 years, getting a 3% cut for that duration is hardly infinite money
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Kith posted:https://i.imgur.com/0LksdKx.mp4 I legit hate dumptruck drivers, they drive like psychos and have extreme mass so they're just a danger to everyone.
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Mar 9, 2024 20:08
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Tunicate posted:Patents only last 17 years, getting a 3% cut for that duration is hardly infinite money Ok let's address that number since you're stuck on it. Goons went over this in the woodworking thread in like 2011 I forget. It was 3% minimum for Ryobi going up to 8% depending on how many others licensed it. Gass wanted to raise the renumeration the more saws were licensed. Gass was a patent lawyer by profession, not a woodworker or an engineer. Ryobi let the deal die. Gass then started backing lawsuits for people who were injured by Ryobi saws. They were suing Ryobi for Not Taking His Deal, arguing that they were negligent for not paying up. The tool manufacturers estimated his demand would add at least 100 dollars to the cost base of every saw on the market before even adding the hardware cost. There's more if you want it e: found the old article on Fine Woodworking which I think sparked the convo back then https://www.finewoodworking.com/2011/11/29/the-story-behind-the-governments-pending-tablesaw-ruling E2: and the goon discussion The Woodworking Thread circa Dec 2011 Yours, A woodworking ADHD goon on a T break. ReelBigLizard fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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Mar 9, 2024 20:32
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All that stuff just makes me like him more. Anything a lone inventor comes up with would be a no-brainer to develop internally at any of the big tool companies. But they don't want any innovation that might disrupt the market, they just want to rake in cash for doing the same thing.
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Mar 9, 2024 21:18
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Nice cope but you didn't read the article
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Mar 9, 2024 21:19
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ReelBigLizard posted:Nice cope That's what I say when someone joins to pieces of moulding really well.
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I edited out a kickback pun in the big post because I thought it detracted. Let me have this one
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Did you read it? It agrees with what I saidquote:However, the number of tablesaw accidents is staggering, averaging 36,400 a year (from 2001 to 2008), according to statistics compiled by the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC).
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Mar 9, 2024 21:34
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I.G. posted:Did you read it? It agrees with what I said I did. They did. Bosch developed a system that was potentially even better (didn't even need contact) only 2 years later but patent lawyer's patents were so broad that the US courts sided with the patent lawyer against the Big Evil Corporate [checks notes] charity owned German toolmaking concern... the drat article posted:David Peot, former director of advanced technology for Ryobi, testified that such cooperation among PTI members was unprecedented. “The people who belong to the Power Tool Institute are very fierce competitors. Never in my 30, 35 years of working with [them] had I ever been exposed to something where they said ‘let’s get together and develop something.’ ” ReelBigLizard fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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Mar 9, 2024 21:51
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2 years later is 2 years too late. They could have easily developed the same thing many years earlier, but didn't because they don't want to risk disrupting the industry. Then Sawstop comes along and this is their reaction. Having to pay royalties is just the price they pay for sitting on their asses when everyone is fully aware of the problem. Now the best they can do is bitch about it and hope to convince people like you that they're the real victims.
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Mar 9, 2024 21:59
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smh I can’t believe that someone would criticize the great Swedish charity IKEA.
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Mar 9, 2024 22:02
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Lol someone has been sold a story of woe here and it's not me. Riddle me this, I'd Gass is such a hero why won't he let any be exported to the rest of the world? Doesn't sound very humanitarian. To be clear I think it's an awesome product and I believe Americans when they review them favourably but this guy is a scumbag lawyer who had one good idea.
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Mar 9, 2024 22:04
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Oh my God shut up. If I could go back and kill the SawStop guy in his crib knowing that every woodworker in the world would lose their hands, it would be worth it to stop this limp-dick flame war.
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Mar 9, 2024 22:06
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Well, that haunting.
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Mar 9, 2024 22:07
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Goons don't believe in intellectual property, or property, or intellect. I got the Jobsite SawStop off Craigslist for $600 cash and the thing is mint condition and the highest quality and most precise tool I've ever owned for sure. lol at acting like it's some unobtanium. Every Makerspace I've been to at has them as well for all their table saws.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Well, that haunting. its the burning plastic to get the other plastic hot enough to melt that is  Like watching cancer in real time
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