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Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

Blind Pineapple posted:

Russ is slightly better than the garbage the Steelers have been trotting out at QB the last 3 years, but not good enough to get them past a first round exit. Basically trying to buy time for a mulligan on the horrible Pickett pick.

Would be kinda funny if Russ leads Tomlin to his first losing season, though.

Wilson’s rate stats were fine considering his coach hated him, his OL was injured, his main WR was banged up, and his age continues to go up up up.

Completion % (12th) :)
TD % (4th) :)
Int % (13th) :geno:
Y/A (21st) :geno:
Sack % (27th) :(
Rush yards per game (6th) :)

He was also 2nd in 4th quarter come backs and 2nd in game winning drives, per game, among qbs with significant starts.

Meanwhile Pickett was 27th or worse in basically everything (including dead last in TD %), except hilarious int % where he was 2nd best lol.

Pickett is really really bad and the Steelers still won 10 games in 2023, with Matt Canada at OC. Russ and Arthur Smith at OC seem like clear upgrades.

Winning a wild card game in a 7-
team playoff structure doesn’t seem impossible. So I think it’s reasonable that Pittsburgh could do better than a first round playoff exit.

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Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

Then again defense effectiveness can vary wildly year to year so maybe the Steelers face plant. That’s why they play da game babey.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Russ is a bad fit for modern NFL schemes but he can still throw a pretty nice deep ball and can kinda run so I can see him doing alright in Arthur Smith’s Tennessee offense that was mostly running the ball and then bombs off play action.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Ornery and Hornery posted:

Wilson’s rate stats were fine considering his coach hated him, his OL was injured, his main WR was banged up, and his age continues to go up up up.

Completion % (12th) :)
TD % (4th) :)
Int % (13th) :geno:
Y/A (21st) :geno:
Sack % (27th) :(
Rush yards per game (6th) :)

He was also 2nd in 4th quarter come backs and 2nd in game winning drives, per game, among qbs with significant starts.

Meanwhile Pickett was 27th or worse in basically everything (including dead last in TD %), except hilarious int % where he was 2nd best lol.

Pickett is really really bad and the Steelers still won 10 games in 2023, with Matt Canada at OC. Russ and Arthur Smith at OC seem like clear upgrades.

Winning a wild card game in a 7-
team playoff structure doesn’t seem impossible. So I think it’s reasonable that Pittsburgh could do better than a first round playoff exit.
The stats tell the story here. Payton forced him into a dink and dunk machine and it looked better than it really was with Sutton playing out of his mind.

His success in Pittsburgh will come down to his receivers doing more of that.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Sutton or not, Steelers have the better weapons by far.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

YOLOsubmarine posted:

Russ is a bad fit for modern NFL schemes but he can still throw a pretty nice deep ball and can kinda run so I can see him doing alright in Arthur Smith’s Tennessee offense that was mostly running the ball and then bombs off play action.
Isnt Russ bad at throwing over the middle and Arthur Smith's offense relies on throws over the middle? I have nightmares about AJ Brown catching a pass over the middle from Tannehill for a big gain from Arthur's days as the Titans OC.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1767190390891860036?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZodG-_eugZM

I hope he doesnt leave

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

https://x.com/dmrussini/status/1767196213491675451?s=46

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
Ah yes, they will "begin" discussing a $50m/year contract as soon as free agency opens.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

lol yeah, everyone already knows their market. He knows Atlanta is offering more.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1767207244326711538

:toot:

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1767207725576912983

that's a lot!

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

NFL Christmas almost here

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1767210851109331368?s=20

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Isnt Russ bad at throwing over the middle and Arthur Smith's offense relies on throws over the middle? I have nightmares about AJ Brown catching a pass over the middle from Tannehill for a big gain from Arthur's days as the Titans OC.

He’s fine at throwing over the middle. If we split “over the middle” into three depths, 0-5, 6-10, 11-X, he’s been good at the short and at the long. He’s been solid at the 6-10.

The meme that he *can’t* throw over the middle is because he’s historically chosen to throw over the middle, as a proportional share of all his throws, at a rate less than the NFL average. His accuracy has been fine when he does choose to throw over the middle.

Wilson played behind literally the biggest college OL when he was at Wisconsin and he made it work.

Wilson is probably missing some over the middle opportunities that he could otherwise realize if he were like 6’4”, but it’s not some critical Achilles heel that makes him a worthless qb.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020


Fair deal for player and for team.


Also a fair deal for player and for team! I thought he’d try and hold out for several mil more per year.

I love contracts!!!

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001




If it's actually that and not funny money, just under $24m APY puts him behind:

$30m Tyreek
$28m Davante
$27m Kupp
$25m AJ Brown
$24m Diggs / Metcalf
$23.8m Deebo
-----------------------------------
$23.2m McLaurin

Which considering inflation from the cap, seems... fine, even if I'd take all those guys over him pretty easily I think.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

Kalli posted:

If it's actually that and not funny money, just under $24m APY puts him behind:

$30m Tyreek
$28m Davante
$27m Kupp
$25m AJ Brown
$24m Diggs / Metcalf
$23.8m Deebo
-----------------------------------
$23.2m McLaurin

Which considering inflation from the cap, seems... fine, even if I'd take all those guys over him pretty easily I think.
My reaction exactly. Given how much the cap went up I expected more inflation.

A Sneaker Broker
Feb 14, 2020

Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot
https://x.com/ctespnn/status/1767214625588707637?s=46

Take this with a massive grain of salt, but considering AB tweeted this out two-days before everyone else….

https://x.com/ctespnn/status/1766163281507401846?s=46

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
I mean, I hope it's true! But I sincerely doubt it.

Forrest on Fire
Nov 23, 2012

Lmao at the Bears.

E: like regardless of what happens.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Forrest on Fire posted:

Lmao at the Bears.

E: like regardless of what happens.

It doesn't matter who plays QB for the Bears, the ceiling is "vague flashes of mediocracy at best"

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Well don't build your stadium on an ancient QB burial ground.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

A Sneaker Broker posted:

https://x.com/ctespnn/status/1767214625588707637?s=46

Take this with a massive grain of salt, but considering AB tweeted this out two-days before everyone else….

https://x.com/ctespnn/status/1766163281507401846?s=46

CTESPN

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

The Bears are 100% drafting Caleb.

Fields hasn't been traded yet because he doesn't really have a market outside of a mid-late rounder and the Bears still think he's worth more.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


Why announce this? They just ruined their leverage of getting some team to give up a king's ransom to move up 2-3 spots for Caleb, so they can take Marvin, which sounds like they're going to anyway?

Forrest on Fire
Nov 23, 2012

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Why announce this? They just ruined their leverage of getting some team to give up a king's ransom to move up 2-3 spots for Caleb, so they can take Marvin, which sounds like they're going to anyway?

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




12:00 here we goooooooo

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Eagles lost Cox but they kept Big Dick, good for them.


Ornery and Hornery posted:

He’s fine at throwing over the middle. If we split “over the middle” into three depths, 0-5, 6-10, 11-X, he’s been good at the short and at the long. He’s been solid at the 6-10.

The meme that he *can’t* throw over the middle is because he’s historically chosen to throw over the middle, as a proportional share of all his throws, at a rate less than the NFL average. His accuracy has been fine when he does choose to throw over the middle.

Wilson played behind literally the biggest college OL when he was at Wisconsin and he made it work.

Wilson is probably missing some over the middle opportunities that he could otherwise realize if he were like 6’4”, but it’s not some critical Achilles heel that makes him a worthless qb.
Thank you for the detailed info! That makes a lot of sense. It is hard to keep the memes/doomposting separate from reality sometimes.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

The first push notifications of the new year.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1767218980278636590?s=20
https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1767219419401306329?s=20

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



CTESPN sounds like what you'd name your edgy parody account, fail at it, then try and rebrand as a rumor mill account.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Ffffuck if the Texans got Barkley that'd be sick

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

The first official move is.. a running back

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1767221954853978364?s=19

solarjetman
Jan 27, 2001

Fun Shoe
edit: i was not Swift enough

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

This is the agent number lol

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
https://twitter.com/DDawkins66/status/1767221961204052338
I think this is Dion messing with people.

Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 11, 2024

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009


toxic player to just put bleu cheese on blast like that, i wouldn't sign him

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land





What did Miles Sanders get last year

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Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
That pretty much sets the top of the RB market, doesn't it?

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