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LuxuryLarva posted:I've known a ton of anarchists who have over a million dollars. It's a completely flexible ideology that allows you to think or do whatever you want because it stands for nothing beyond the individual. You know - liberalism. Their personal virtue is paramount
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How do you know a ton of millionaires...
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In Training posted:How do you know a ton of millionaires... I live in california.
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It has to be an art project right? There's no way they're taking themselves seriously
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Mar 11, 2024 12:34
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I like how it's a coalition of anarchists and Warhammer nerds
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THANK YOU
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did the president draw that poster
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So the good news is we were lucky enough to manage to exchange some of our excess fish from our camp with the commune over the hill for some medical care, the bad news is that their doctor wants us to stick to a schedule instead of coming whenever we feel like it. Alright so who's in favor of killing that cop?
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Yeah this has serious birds aren’t real vibes to me
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Yeah this has serious birds aren’t real vibes to me This is one of those things where even though it's fake as hell it's still real. Like I've met actual people who want to abolish timekeeping and things like numbers. How can someone think like this? They take acid every single day until they are so incredibly stupid (and have thoroughly ruined their lives) that they think it's completely reasonable to blame their problems on timekeeping.
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LuxuryLarva posted:This is one of those things where even though it's fake as hell it's still real. Like I've met actual people who want to abolish timekeeping and things like numbers. How can someone think like this? They take acid every single day until they are so incredibly stupid (and have thoroughly ruined their lives) that they think it's completely reasonable to blame their problems on timekeeping. Yes, this is why they are anarchists
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LuxuryLarva posted:This is one of those things where even though it's fake as hell it's still real. Like I've met actual people who want to abolish timekeeping and things like numbers. How can someone think like this? They take acid every single day until they are so incredibly stupid (and have thoroughly ruined their lives) that they think it's completely reasonable to blame their problems on timekeeping. Your posts are of great anthropological value
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oh would you look at uh,,, hmmm
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I like that anarcho-nihilists and Duginists use the same symbol
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:oh would you look at uh,,, hmmm
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:oh would you look at uh,,, hmmm anarcho-bidenism
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LuxuryLarva posted:This is one of those things where even though it's fake as hell it's still real. Like I've met actual people who want to abolish timekeeping and things like numbers. How can someone think like this? They take acid every single day until they are so incredibly stupid (and have thoroughly ruined their lives) that they think it's completely reasonable to blame their problems on timekeeping. Like so much in anarchist "theory" they take a legitimate criticism of capitalism - i.e. industrial time - and divorce it from any context or reason
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PhilippAchtel posted:Like so much in anarchist "theory" they take a legitimate criticism of capitalism - i.e. industrial time - and divorce it from any context or reason what’s wrong with being on time to stuff to achieve a common goal?
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abolishing time is an admirable goal but until we as a society unlock a method for accelerating earth’s motion through space to the speed of light it will be impossible for us to all experience all of time simultaneously. these anarchists really just want to accelerate themselves to the speed of light so they alone can experience all of time simultaneously. typical libertarians in denial
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fart simpson posted:what’s wrong with being on time to stuff to achieve a common goal? Enables bedtimes.
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Someone told me the other day that anarchism is a powerful force for change because of something to do with rhizomes and the flow of life
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fart simpson posted:what’s wrong with being on time to stuff to achieve a common goal? Nothing per se. In fact, social production requires some amount of coordination and rhythm, a fact that Engels was keen to point out precisely when criticizing anarchists. Amusingly, they accept his argument by way of rejecting time-keeping, but being fundamentally idealist, mistake the concept of abstract time as the thing that itself imposes the order rather than a tool in service to this or that mode of production. None the less, there is something to the idea that abstract time contributes to commodification and intensification of labor. David Harvey is a good source on this, for one. Capitalist society encourages us to fetishize time. As an example, there's a large digital clock outside a bank in my town that lists hours and minutes as you'd expect, but also lists seconds. What possible use could the precise second have for someone walking down the street? Time is socially constructed, and how you perceive or conceive of time depends on the society you live in. How will we conceive of time in socialist society? Minutes and seconds will continue to have use in many cases, of course, but will they play the same role they do in current society? That remains to be seen. This brings us back to the poster. Smashing clocks does not change a society, but a different society will have a different relation to time. As so often, anarchists put the cart before the horse.
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Rodney The Yam II posted:Someone told me the other day that anarchism is a powerful force for change because of something to do with rhizomes and the flow of life Are you sure they weren't talking about RZA and the Wu Tang Clan's songs Flow and Life Changes?
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PhilippAchtel posted:Nothing per se. In fact, social production requires some amount of coordination and rhythm, a fact that Engels was keen to point out precisely when criticizing anarchists. reminds me of a youtube video i saw once about how medieval peasants hated clocks and they were first set up around trading houses. used to be, people would work a day or two, take a few days off, work another day, and then gently caress off for some random feast day. good gig if you can get if you ask me
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Votskomit posted:Are you sure they weren't talking about RZA and the Wu Tang Clan's songs Flow and Life Changes? 🧐 Seems i have some research to do
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Mandel Brotset posted:reminds me of a youtube video i saw once about how medieval peasants hated clocks and they were first set up around trading houses. used to be, people would work a day or two, take a few days off, work another day, and then gently caress off for some random feast day. good gig if you can get if you ask me peasants could work like this because most of the actual work involved in growing is done by the plants themselves. the actually labor intensive part of farming is seasonal. a complex modern firm doesn’t grow itself.
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Mandel Brotset posted:
wtf does that have to do with a clock. youre describing a calendar lmao
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PhilippAchtel posted:Capitalist society encourages us to fetishize time. As an example, there's a large digital clock outside a bank in my town that lists hours and minutes as you'd expect, but also lists seconds. What possible use could the precise second have for someone walking down the street? I know this is not what you mean, but I would be very careful with this argument, because down this path lies "Africans can't take medicines on a reliable schedule, because they do not know how to use clocks" I bring this up because for me, it wasn't just a scene from The West Wing - both of my parents, who worked in healthcare, brought up a similar talking point when referring to their patients from the countryside well before that show aired - that you couldn't rely on them to "take these pills thrice a day, every eight hours", because rural folks reckoned with time by sunrise and sunset rather than a more precise notion of time.
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when ur anarchist talking about time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eECjjLNAOd4
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fart simpson posted:what’s wrong with being on time to stuff to achieve a common goal? "I'm too hungover / my lymes disease / audhd / feral child energy / acid flashbacks / desire to smoke weed is too powerful so im speepy and you are oppressing me by asking me to wake up before one in the afternoon"
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LuxuryLarva posted:"I'm too hungover / my lymes disease / audhd / feral child energy / acid flashbacks / desire to smoke weed is too powerful so im speepy and you are oppressing me by asking me to wake up before one in the afternoon" I'm an anarchist and I have chronic fatigue syndrome. Yeah, we exist.
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Slanderer posted:wtf does that have to do with a clock. youre describing a calendar lmao they both measure time ya yokel
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Plants can't shove their time cycles down our throats and get away with it
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If I don't know the precise time in Greenwich I can't navigate my ship by celestial fixes. Every second of time error is a nautical mile of position error.
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Polikarpov posted:If I don't know the precise time in Greenwich I can't navigate my ship by celestial fixes. Every second of time error is a nautical mile of position error. Mastermaxxing and Commanderpilled
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:peasants could work like this because most of the actual work involved in growing is done by the plants themselves. the actually labor intensive part of farming is seasonal. a complex modern firm doesn’t grow itself. Now, the work is still seasonal, but the owners just discard their workers at the end of the season and rely on the state to subsidize them
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gradenko_2000 posted:I know this is not what you mean, but I would be very careful with this argument, because down this path lies "Africans can't take medicines on a reliable schedule, because they do not know how to use clocks" It's not the same, and I don't think it follows. In fact, it directly contradicts my main point, which is that clocks pre-date and will continue to exist after capitalism. The problem that anarchists identify is not an issue of timekeeping; it's an issue of obsession with speed-up and precision in contexts in which they make no difference. That's the fetish. Being able to read a clock or take your medicine on a schedule aren't examples of fetishizing time.
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