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down1nit posted:I mean it does look good but yeah, who cares tbh 
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priznat posted:That taint has to gleam like the freakin sun!! Lol
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people watch more things on their phones than porn!!! ahhh goons
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Radia posted:people watch more things on their phones than porn!!! ahhh goons pronounced the same as in ahhh! Real monsters!!!
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:thirding that HDR owns if you have the right display for it and when the content implements it well OLED or don't bother with HDR basically
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Volte posted:On a good screen, HDR is probably the biggest upgrade of all time as far as image quality. First time I saw it on a really nice OLED, I admit to being a bit in awe. But I personally think sd to hd was a bigger leap. Growing up with 13-27in tube TV's then suddenly seeing glorious 1080i on an hd rear projection made everything that came before it immediately obsolete in my book. I can still watch plenty of 1080p sdr content and be perfectly happy.
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Mar 11, 2024 21:35
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Mental Hospitality posted:First time I saw it on a really nice OLED, I admit to being a bit in awe. But I personally think sd to hd was a bigger leap. Growing up with 13-27in tube TV's then suddenly seeing glorious 1080i on an hd rear projection made everything that came before it immediately obsolete in my book. I can still watch plenty of 1080p sdr content and be perfectly happy.
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Mar 11, 2024 22:10
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VHS to DVD was a pretty big leap imo
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Mar 11, 2024 23:06
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EngineerJoe posted:VHS to DVD was a pretty big leap imo OLED with HDR still looks loving amazing in comparison, but to me the biggest thing is because of the contrast between when pixels are lit and when they aren't. I'm still not paying a premium for something like that, though - especially when it also involves investing in 4K, which in turn involves upgrading all the devices that output to the TV in some form, as well as replacing all of the media that I've legally ripped to back it up.
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Mar 11, 2024 23:49
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EngineerJoe posted:VHS to DVD was a pretty big leap imo Certainly in raw user experience if not quality if you were using a good VHS deck (we were not using a good VHS deck), hell DVD still looks really good if you use a player that can do decent upscaling like a PS3.
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Mar 11, 2024 23:54
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The analogue without error correction to digital with error correction made a big difference, as did the increased colour space. my monitors are 1440p with HDR and are OLED, you dont have to go all the way up to 4k
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Mar 12, 2024 03:13
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overall idk much about the diff at the small screen size of a phone, but the way hdr looks like it's never on, it just..displays, is insanely cool. im a nerd shut up
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Mar 12, 2024 03:16
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njsykora posted:Certainly in raw user experience if not quality if you were using a good VHS deck (we were not using a good VHS deck), hell DVD still looks really good if you use a player that can do decent upscaling like a PS3. I ripped my Alias DVDs because they have the original music on them and the streaming version has been replaced with awful royalty-free music, and when I watch them I'm hard-pressed to tell the difference.
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DVD looks exactly as good as any other 480p video you can get your hands on, i.e. not very good. It was great on a standard definition CRT coming off of analog video, but beyond that it's not ideal. The leap to 1080p/Blu-ray is way more impactful than the VHS to DVD jump IMO. I still watch plenty of content at 1080p and even on a 4K TV it looks good.
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If you don't understand the appeal of OLED after setting it in person you prob got all the MotionPlus modes still turned on back at home too
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beep by grandpa posted:If you don't understand the appeal of OLED after setting it in person you prob got all the MotionPlus modes still turned on back at home too I still see TV's out in the wild with the Soap Opera Motion Smoov setting turned on and it hurts my very soul that people watch media this way. The only reason I can think of why it even became a feature is so manufactures could include a "Big Number" on their sales placard. It looks so horrific.
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~Coxy posted:I ripped my Alias DVDs because they have the original music on them and the streaming version has been replaced with awful royalty-free music It’s not exactly high brow entertainment, but that’s still a dick move. Par for the course I guess, since they already screwed the show mid season 2.
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~Coxy posted:I ripped my Alias DVDs because they have the original music on them and the streaming version has been replaced with awful royalty-free music, and when I watch them I'm hard-pressed to tell the difference. Yeah they did this with Scrubs too, which is extra hosed because some episodes are literally built around a specific song so the Netflix version makes no sense.
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Mental Hospitality posted:I still see TV's out in the wild with the Soap Opera Motion Smoov setting turned on and it hurts my very soul that people watch media this way. The only reason I can think of why it even became a feature is so manufactures could include a "Big Number" on their sales placard. It looks so horrific. What's going to happen when enough kids' parents keep their TVs' motion smoothing settings on and they grow up thinking on-screen media is just supposed to look like that? A good poster fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 10:18
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A good poster posted:What's going to happen when enough kids' parents keep their TVs' motion smoothing settings on and they grow up thinking on-screen media is just supposed to look like that? Hopefully 120hz TVs become the new standard and the need for frame interpolation disappears.
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njsykora posted:Hopefully 120hz TVs become the new standard and the need for frame interpolation disappears. Aren't they already the standard. It's more that the content is 24fps.
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mobby_6kl posted:Aren't they already the standard. It's more that the content is 24fps. 24 evenly multiplies into 120, so frame interpolation isn’t necessary on such tvs is I think the point.
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Mar 12, 2024 11:13
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isn't another factor that the very fast response time of OLEDs makes 24fps content look choppier than it did on an LCD, so manufacturers are using interpolation to "fix" that too
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yeah camera pans and the like don't look very smooth, which is why people like james cameron have explored hfr (high framerate) remasters of their movies to work around it they use a special name for it that i forget blurbusters also talked about it the other day https://twitter.com/BlurBusters/status/1766613018878611597 kliras fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 11:31
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kliras posted:yeah camera pans and the like don't look very smooth, which is why people like james cameron have explored hfr (high framerate) remasters of their movies to work around it nintendo fanboy, lol of course they wouldn't know what anything above 30 FPS looks like
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it's funny because nintendo themselves clearly value 60fps, most of their first party games (besides zelda) target that
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Arivia posted:24 evenly multiplies into 120, so frame interpolation isn’t necessary on such tvs is I think the point. Yeah, and most TVs are still 60hz. It's only in the last year or so that they've really started to come out in numbers but they're also still up around the $800 mark. Shipon posted:nintendo fanboy, lol of course they wouldn't know what anything above 30 FPS looks like Digital Foundry did a whole video saying the same thing though, specifically around Forza Horizon 5's graphics mode. The problem most often isn't raw framerate but frame time stability. I didn't know MGS5 on the Xbox One wasn't 60fps until I was told.
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Shipon posted:nintendo fanboy, lol of course they wouldn't know what anything above 30 FPS looks like Correction: an uneven 20-25 FPS while the resolution oscillates between 200p and 619.375p
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Mar 12, 2024 12:25
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The jump from 30 to mid 40 is bigger than 40 - 60
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well why not posted:The jump from 30 to mid 40 is bigger than 40 - 60 As everyone who bought a Steam Deck or a 120hz TV and a PS5 knows, 40fps is the golden territory.
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One of the most hilarious things I've seen is turning on smoothing on Star Wars ep IV on my TV, and watching it go from cinematic masterpiece into a Doctor Who VHS.
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We were playing Quake and Quake II at 25 fps when I was a kid and it was fine
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Shipon posted:OLED or don't bother with HDR basically Modern mini-LED displays (so not Samsung's older QLED stuff, though I haven't tried their newer TVs) are as good or better at rendering contrast ranges as OLED. I like my LG OLED TV just fine and the color reproduction might be a touch better, but like, Apple didn't move to mini-LED instead of OLED because they wanted "good enough".
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I think I played through half of Quake 2 at sub 15 FPS with software rendering and eventually had to beg to get a graphics card. 
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Vintersorg posted:I think I played through half of Quake 2 at sub 15 FPS with software rendering and eventually had to beg to get a graphics card. lol,  except it was the original Half Life.I will never, ever forget firing that up for the first time after putting in my sparkling new Voodoo2. Just mind loving blown at how amazing everything looked.
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I used to be able to tolerate 30fps Fidelity modes on PS5 no problem but since I got a 120Hz TV, I no longer can. It actively fucks with my eyes and I can feel them trying to focus on individual frames. Even 60fps is noticeably choppier, though not intolerable. Pixel response time is certainly a major factor. edit: Also my relatives insist on having their TV on TruMotion and I turn it off whenever I'm there and they insist it looks like poo poo with it turned off, and turn it back on. 
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FuturePastNow posted:We were playing Quake and Quake II at 25 fps when I was a kid and it was fine The whole reason consumer 3D accelerators are a thing is because the Voodoo enabled playing those games specifically at higher framerates.
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Playing Quake 3 at 100fps on a 100Hz CRT was mega.
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SCheeseman posted:The whole reason consumer 3D accelerators are a thing is because the Voodoo enabled playing those games specifically at higher framerates. yeah but that doesn't stop (some) millennials from having brain worms that 12fps is fine, since that's what games looked like in our childhood
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Shipon posted:nintendo fanboy, lol of course they wouldn't know what anything above 30 FPS looks like 24fps is the correct framerate for video though 
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