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Talorat
Sep 18, 2007

Hahaha! Aw come on, I can't tell you everything right away! That would make for a boring story, don't you think?
Can anyone recommend a good gimmick build for our multiplayer game, ideally a healer type? I wanna do something silly and I'm joining while we're already well underway.

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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


5 Berserker Barb + 4 Transmutation Wiz + 3 Thief. Potion chucker!!

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

exquisite tea posted:

5 Berserker Barb + 4 Transmutation Wiz + 3 Thief. Potion chucker!!

This but you're also a vivid lettuce-green Duergar

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


exquisite tea posted:

What are you talking about my man really did us a solid turning illithid within minutes of meeting us so that the rest of my party could continue their hot girl summer.

How badly did I gently caress myself giving my main character a bunch of tadpole powers

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Woolie Wool posted:

How badly did I gently caress myself giving my main character a bunch of tadpole powers

Youre fine, seemingly the only thing this game doesnt let you gently caress is yourself

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Talorat posted:

Can anyone recommend a good gimmick build for our multiplayer game, ideally a healer type? I wanna do something silly and I'm joining while we're already well underway.

17 con/16 wis 12 life cleric dual wielding phalar aluve/blood of lathander, wearing luminous armor, hellrider's pride, whispering promise and boots of genial striding. take war caster, dual wielder and resilient constitution, trigger bless+blade ward with preserve life on the party and dish out orbs on enemies with spirit guardians.

Talorat
Sep 18, 2007

Hahaha! Aw come on, I can't tell you everything right away! That would make for a boring story, don't you think?

exquisite tea posted:

5 Berserker Barb + 4 Transmutation Wiz + 3 Thief. Potion chucker!!

I'm leaning towards this for the comedy aspect lol

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Shard posted:

I did it to karlach on my first run so she wouldn't blow up

Ok that’s fair. I was cool with the outcome of invading hell side by side with my big red queen. Not sure what I’m gonna do about her on this playthrough since I’m doing Bae’zel romance

Talorat posted:

Can anyone recommend a good gimmick build for our multiplayer game, ideally a healer type? I wanna do something silly and I'm joining while we're already well underway.

I really like the mental image of Gale as a high CHA and STR barb. This long hair nerd just all caps screaming to resolve every dialogue check like some roid raging karen.

Woolie Wool posted:

How badly did I gently caress myself giving my main character a bunch of tadpole powers

somehow this doesn’t seem to matter AT ALL which I found pretty weird since the first half of the game is all about how apocalyptically awful the tadpole is. When in fact shoving as many tadpoles down your throat as possible is by far the optimal play

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
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I went with Karlithid on my first playthrough and slept like a baby afterwards, I understand the concerns about her losing her... tieflingity and indeed she is a little spacey in the epilogue, but she hasn't actually become anyone she wouldn't want to be - that is, a bad person - so it's ok imo. I can't see how people consider it a worse outcome than going to actual literal Hell to fight and kill 24/7.

It also bugs the hell out of me that letting Emp die at the end of Act 2 is an instant gg. We literally do not need that guy

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
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Also also I don't think there should be downsides for eating worms so much as there should be equally strong incentives to not do it. But idk what they would be

Snake Maze
Jul 13, 2016

3.85 Billion years ago
  • Having seen the explosion on the moon, the Devil comes to Venus

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

I went with Karlithid on my first playthrough and slept like a baby afterwards, I understand the concerns about her losing her... tieflingity and indeed she is a little spacey in the epilogue, but she hasn't actually become anyone she wouldn't want to be - that is, a bad person - so it's ok imo. I can't see how people consider it a worse outcome than going to actual literal Hell to fight and kill 24/7.

To be fair it does require her to have a convenient supply of terminally ill people who consent to having their minds eaten. Realistically you’ve got to expect a dry spell there eventually

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Control Volume posted:

Youre fine, seemingly the only thing this game doesnt let you gently caress is yourself

given that it's an incredibly horny dnd game with doppelgangers as one enemy type seems a missed trick

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Owlbear Camus posted:

given that it's an incredibly horny dnd game with doppelgangers as one enemy type seems a missed trick

if you gently caress harnassus in the house of hope, you should be able to ask him to gently caress you again with your own body afterward. while your party looks on in disgust

btw the follow up you get to doing that is hilarious. everyone should gently caress a devil or two if they can

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

Also also I don't think there should be downsides for eating worms so much as there should be equally strong incentives to not do it. But idk what they would be

My main unfair criticism for the Internets about BG3 is that it has issues bigtime with structure and pacing, and a big part of it is that Act 1 sets up a dire struggle of resisting the Illithid powers, but there's never any big reward for doing so. I really am going to take "you look really uggo in screenshots" as my malus when I take the Emp's deal tho, until they thighten it up someday maybe.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

I am now an hour into the game and have head butted a vampire elf. He seems cool though :)

I quite enjoy this game.

I still need to learn the mechanics more though. At the early game I don’t really know what tactics there are. I kind of just “start blasting” with my sorcerer spells and it is what it is.

woodenchicken
Aug 19, 2007

Nap Ghost

wizard2 posted:

My main unfair criticism for the Internets about BG3 is that it has issues bigtime with structure and pacing, and a big part of it is that Act 1 sets up a dire struggle of resisting the Illithid powers, but there's never any big reward for doing so. I really am going to take "you look really uggo in screenshots" as my malus when I take the Emp's deal tho, until they thighten it up someday maybe.
Eh, I literally didn't take it because it looked gross. I was fine with similar effects in KOTOR and Mass Effect, but here it looks super bad.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


That's the thing, I took a bunch of tadpoles and my paladin is a vain idiot with low INT and WIS and I am going to have to savescum like mad to pass a wisdom check based on number of tadpoles because the hells if he's going to sacrifice his pretty boy face

But maybe he can take that as his patron Lathander's punishment for the sin of vanity so who knows

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


I'm gonna be honest, I hate everything surrounding the emperor and requiring someone to turn into a mind flayer/Orpheus immediately accepting doing it himself. poo poo sucks.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Ratios and Tendency posted:

I'm gonna be honest, I hate everything surrounding the emperor and requiring someone to turn into a mind flayer/Orpheus immediately accepting doing it himself. poo poo sucks.

It's obvious that they wanted a Hard Choice for the ending but it is so trivially easy to get that Deus ex Machina ending (which I imagine most players would consider the "best" outcome) that imo they should have also just relented and let you have the Broseidon ending where you can convince the Emperor to stick around for like 5 more minutes so neither of them have to die. You can even do a sinister credits stinger with the Emperor like the one for Raph if you want. I don't hate the ending because I think Lae'zel's arc is actually very touching on that route, but the dilemma is silly for how fast they back off on it.

mycot fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Mar 13, 2024

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022
one thing BG3 affirms to me is that an entertaining story really isnt about the story told itself but the way in which you tell it

I think the actual plot synopsis is no more or less silly than 1 and 2, but such an emphasis was placed on characterization, voice over, motion capture, I can really roll with it. It's been kind of funny to me that it won all the awards last year for Story and Narrative but it's a very silly story and you really need to suspend your disbelief for it to work!

If you somehow got rid of the extremely graphic violence, gore, dismemberment, etc, and the cartoon porno reward cutscenes, you have a Saturday morning cartoonshow from the 90's, basically! real X-Men poo poo. I feel this is extremely appropriate for The Realms and BG tho, idk

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



wizard2 posted:

My main unfair criticism for the Internets about BG3 is that it has issues bigtime with structure and pacing, and a big part of it is that Act 1 sets up a dire struggle of resisting the Illithid powers, but there's never any big reward for doing so. I really am going to take "you look really uggo in screenshots" as my malus when I take the Emp's deal tho, until they thighten it up someday maybe.

Everyone says Dragonborn don’t have any advantages and that’s simply not true. They can eat the special tadpole and still look fairly normal!

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Prop Wash posted:

Everyone says Dragonborn don’t have any advantages and that’s simply not true. They can eat the special tadpole and still look fairly normal!

Hell, they can even look better

See also: half orcs

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

I came to the game late and the way people talked about the effect I thought it was gonna be way worse than it was. I mean it’s not a good look but I was expecting to transform into a loving Beholder or something

It does make me chuckle that my whole crew looks like a black metal band in corpse paint and nobody says poo poo in conversation. Probably not even the weirdest thing they saw today in Faerûn

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

wizard2 posted:

If you somehow got rid of the extremely graphic violence, gore, dismemberment, etc, and the cartoon porno reward cutscenes, you have a Saturday morning cartoonshow from the 90's, basically! real X-Men poo poo. I feel this is extremely appropriate for The Realms and BG tho, idk

Docjowles posted:

Probably not even the weirdest thing they saw today in Faerûn

This game is the first D&D property I've ever interacted with, and the whole franchise seemed weird to me before, but I sort of Get It now. Obviously this is just one game, but I assume it's always meant to have been a deliberately dialed-up-to-11 silly fun fantasy schlock experience.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

freebooter posted:

This game is the first D&D property I've ever interacted with, and the whole franchise seemed weird to me before, but I sort of Get It now. Obviously this is just one game, but I assume it's always meant to have been a deliberately dialed-up-to-11 silly fun fantasy schlock experience.

The movie from last year is good, you should see it.

Jarnathan!

Cavelcade
Dec 9, 2015

I'm actually a boy!



Lobok posted:

The movie from last year is good, you should see it.

Jarnathan!

But we approved your pardon!

mystic pimp
Jul 25, 2014

Formerly-rampant human-coded AI with a sense of humor seeks bipedal oxygen-breathing cyborg for serious relationship in the galactic core. I've got cool guns if you like to break stuff. No yuppies.
If you start a civil war in the grove by stealing the idol and then go to the goblin camp to talk to Minthara how does that all play out? I would find out myself but one of my party members is now permanently stuck in combat and I can't long rest anymore so the game doesn't want me to pursue this

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Cavelcade posted:

But we approved your pardon!

Honestly the movie was such a surprise at how enjoyable it was. D&D getting such a rennaisance with Honor Among Thieves and BG3, hopefully the quality train continues.

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Medullah posted:

Honestly the movie was such a surprise at how enjoyable it was. D&D getting such a rennaisance with Honor Among Thieves and BG3, hopefully the quality train continues.

Good news! In response to said rennaisance, Hasbro fired everybody involved with writing the D&D books themselves, or almost everybody, I forget!

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

what house rules do everyone play with? my first two runs were pretty no holds barred, but I decided to make up a few honorable rules for my honor mode run, and it definitely made the game a lot more fun for me:

* no pickpocketing vendors.
* no respeccing to reset vendor inventories or buy max attitude.
* no buff/utility bot characters.
* no haste or speed potions.
* no globe of invulnerability.
* no alert.

not so much trying to jack up the difficulty as prevent myself from trivializing the game and relying on repetitive boring stuff.

Zodium fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Mar 13, 2024

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Zodium posted:

what house rules do everyone play with? my first two runs were pretty no holds barred, but I decided to make up a few honorable rules for my honor mode run, and it definitely made the game a lot more fun for me:

* no pickpocketing vendors.
* no respeccing to reset vendor inventories or buy max attitude.
* no buff/utility bot characters.
* no haste or speed potions.
* no globe of invulnerability.
* no alert.

not so much trying to jack up the difficulty as prevent myself from trivializing the game and relying on repetitive boring stuff.

I can understand the first three, to be less meta or videogamey, but the last three just seem like making it harder for yourself for the sake of it when the enemy will use it or take advantage of it themselves. I know you said it's not for that but that's what it sounds like.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Zodium posted:

* no pickpocketing vendors.
* no respeccing to reset vendor inventories or buy max attitude.
* no buff/utility bot characters.
yes

Zodium posted:

* no haste or speed potions.
* no globe of invulnerability.
gently caress no, although I restrain myself from buying extra copies, and I play with mods that make the game harder Tactician instead of playing HM

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022
a more challenging run for some would be a No Consumables run, as in, you HAVE to find a way to use that consumable you just looted in the very next fight or you lose teh game :)

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Got to the end of act 2 and it turns out the Absolute is just a tool for the Dead Three. Guess I should have known from the title of the game and the fact that the temple from BG1 is on the title screen that the plot would be stored in the Bhaals. :v:

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Woolie Wool posted:

Got to the end of act 2 and it turns out the Absolute is just a tool for the Dead Three. Guess I should have known from the title of the game and the fact that the temple from BG1 is on the title screen that the plot would be stored in the Bhaals. :v:

ya, it rules. a big gripe with Early Access was "how tf does this tie into Baldur's Gate 1 and 2?"

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

wizard2 posted:

a more challenging run for some would be a No Consumables run, as in, you HAVE to find a way to use that consumable you just looted in the very next fight or you lose teh game :)

I've barely touched consumables but I'm still on my first run and doing Explorer, my Resident Evil hoarder mentality has led to Gale having bags of scrolls, potions and elixirs that are literally encumbering him heh

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

Woolie Wool posted:

Got to the end of act 2 and it turns out the Absolute is just a tool for the Dead Three. Guess I should have known from the title of the game and the fact that the temple from BG1 is on the title screen that the plot would be stored in the Bhaals. :v:

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Lobok posted:

I can understand the first three, to be less meta or videogamey, but the last three just seem like making it harder for yourself for the sake of it when the enemy will use it or take advantage of it themselves. I know you said it's not for that but that's what it sounds like.

you can think of them as a single "no ending every combat in round 1 before the enemy can take a turn" rule i guess.

Black Noise
Jan 23, 2008

WHAT UP

I’m always pickpocketing. Respeccing for cheaper reputation gains are irrelevant when you can take the money. Speed potions and things like perilous stakes are mitigated by boosting HP. Not taking alert or a least someone without an elixir of vigilance seems like a deliberate way to punish yourself for engaging in dialogue.

I’ve been watching a low dex wizard do a co-op run and they have been consistently getting KO’d on balanced.

I’ve lowered the DC of Greater Invisibility to 10

Helmet or Arcane Acuity and Helmet of Grit changed to clothing so pajama tanks can wear them.

Transmuters stone works without the wizard being in the party because it’s a rock and the only limitation I can find is attunement and you can’t have more than 1 effect of the same name. 3m extra movement speed is crushers ring from act 1 so leave me alone.

D20 initiative so Alert doesn’t always win but it helps.

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wizard2
Apr 4, 2022
I dont bother with any thievery or stealth bc it is tedious as gently caress on Steam Deck lol :smith:

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