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I really want to read a deep dive into the production of returns everything about that novie screams that it's five scripts slapped together
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Mar 11, 2024 23:42
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If that had happened back then, the people who whine on twitter about stuff like that would've had to write letters to the studio instead. That really was a better way to do things.
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Mar 12, 2024 00:10
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Blockhouse posted:I really want to read a deep dive into the production of returns everything about that novie screams that it's five scripts slapped together Really? I always saw it as Burton allowed to go nuts because the first movie was so successful.
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Mar 12, 2024 01:27
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The best part of Batman Returns is the kid playing Christopher Walken's son doing an impression of Christopher Walken at Christopher Walken.
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Mar 12, 2024 01:34
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Inkspot posted:The best part of Batman Returns is the kid playing Christopher Walken's son doing an impression of Christopher Walken at Christopher Walken. Take away Florence Pugh's awards for not doing it imo.
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Mar 12, 2024 02:34
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Open Marriage Night posted:Really? I always saw it as Burton allowed to go nuts because the first movie was so successful. Nah, it's an absolute mess that gets by on style and I genuinely think going back with eyes less enamoured with Burton after the last 30 years wouldn't be kind to it. My hottest take is I actually think Batman Forever is a better movie. Definitely a better BATMAN movie.
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Mar 12, 2024 02:40
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Open Marriage Night posted:Really? I always saw it as Burton allowed to go nuts because the first movie was so successful. Absolutely not. It's completely incoherent, characters just kind of completely change their motivations from scene to scene, there's clear subplots that don't really go anywhere, and I doubt at any point the original plan for the movie was to have the vast majority of Bruce Wayne's scenes be Michael Keaton looking concerned at a television. There's like four different credited writers between the story and the screenplay.
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Mar 12, 2024 02:51
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Aphrodite posted:Take away Florence Pugh's awards for not doing it imo. Unironically, yes. Gaz-L posted:My hottest take is I actually think Batman Forever is a better movie. Definitely a better BATMAN movie. Seconded. Batman Returns is a Batman movie that only kind of also surreptitiously has Batman in it. The likes of which we wouldn't see again until The Dark Knight Rises.
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Mar 12, 2024 03:22
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I must be nuts because I’ve always preferred Returns to ‘89, which imo is a totally overrated bore.
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Mar 12, 2024 04:22
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The Returns script is the most Written By The Guy Who Wrote Hudson Hawk dialogue since Hudson Hawk
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Mar 12, 2024 04:30
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Gaz-L posted:My hottest take is I actually think Batman Forever is a better movie. Definitely a better BATMAN movie. Kilmer's is the best Batman in the sense that if I lived in Gotham City and was in trouble, he's the Batman I'd want to come save me.
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Mar 12, 2024 04:46
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I think of the four, my preferences are in order of release. I think '89 is a pretty good Batman film, Returns is incredibly Burton and bizarre but fun to watch, Forever is goofy and over the top and pretty fun, while & Robin is in my opinion Forever but taken too far to be charming.
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Mar 12, 2024 04:52
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live with fruit posted:Kilmer's is the best Batman in the sense that if I lived in Gotham City and was in trouble, he's the Batman I'd want to come save me. Yeah him or Pattinson are the two best choices.
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Mar 12, 2024 05:32
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Happy 15th Anniversary of the day Sony announced Spider-Man 4 (which is still not officially cancelled) would release in 2011.
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Mar 12, 2024 16:50
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Happy 15th Anniversary of the day Sony announced Spider-Man 4 (which is still not officially cancelled) would release in 2011. They should just do a non-multiverse-related Peter B. Parker movie and call it Spider-Man 4
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Mar 12, 2024 18:44
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The Batman 2 has been delayed until October, 2026
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Mar 12, 2024 21:26
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Gaz-L posted:Nah, it's an absolute mess that gets by on style and I genuinely think going back with eyes less enamoured with Burton after the last 30 years wouldn't be kind to it. It’s absolutely one of the better superhero movies and also a classic Christmas movie Returns is an insane film that rules.
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Mar 13, 2024 17:11
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Returns really runs out of steam. All the set up is great but the story itself is boring. Batman takes the Penguin down with a recording.
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Mar 13, 2024 20:23
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live with fruit posted:Returns really runs out of steam. All the set up is great but the story itself is boring. Batman takes the Penguin down with a recording. You really need the context there. In 1992 the idea of a political candidate being recorded insulting and belittling the people who were going to vote for him was considered to be a bad thing. In the year 2024 where that makes you the frontrunner in a major political party that might be hard to understand.
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Mar 13, 2024 20:27
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live with fruit posted:Returns really runs out of steam. All the set up is great but the story itself is boring. Batman takes the Penguin down with a recording. What's wrong with a bat using sound?
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Mar 13, 2024 20:29
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OK but remember when Bruce Wayne is playing that recording and it's on a CD, and then he does a DJ record scratch thing with the CD?
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Mar 13, 2024 20:31
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Jamesman posted:OK but remember when Bruce Wayne is playing that recording and it's on a CD, and then he does a DJ record scratch thing with the CD? Yeah it’s great
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Mar 13, 2024 20:58
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Batman returns rules
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Mar 13, 2024 21:08
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Inkspot posted:The best part of Batman Returns is the kid playing Christopher Walken's son doing an impression of Christopher Walken at Christopher Walken. It blew my mind to find out that that guy was Zangief. Also Lobo in that fan film.
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Mar 13, 2024 21:51
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Gaz-L posted:Nah, it's an absolute mess that gets by on style and I genuinely think going back with eyes less enamoured with Burton after the last 30 years wouldn't be kind to it. Batman Forever's plot is even worse and isn't stylish enough that it could get away with it.
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Mar 13, 2024 21:55
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Forever isn't stylish enough?
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Mar 13, 2024 22:01
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Good thing about all those movies, like them or hate them, is that Gotham is actually Gotham and not just any eastern US city.
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Mar 13, 2024 22:07
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Parkingtigers posted:Good thing about all those movies, like them or hate them, is that Gotham is actually Gotham and not just any eastern US city. Hey, sometimes Gotham is Chicago.
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Mar 13, 2024 22:35
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I said "eastern" because I was trying to include Chicago. I have no idea if Americans count it as eastern, but an attempt was made.
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Mar 13, 2024 22:37
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Chicago is representative of the Midwest.
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Mar 13, 2024 22:49
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Gotham and Metropolis as cities across a small bay from eachother didn’t work for me at all.
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Mar 13, 2024 22:54
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And are both Detroit.
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Mar 13, 2024 22:57
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The_Doctor posted:Gotham and Metropolis as cities across a small bay from eachother didn’t work for me at all. My DC cities hot take is that Gotham should be in Massachusetts. This has drastic implications regarding the accents of every Gothamite.
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Mar 13, 2024 23:04
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My private take (which someone else may have come up with too) is that Gotham and Metropolis should be the same city. Gotham is the older part and more or less perfectly safe during the day. But at night it's when the monsters come out. Metropolis is the newer part with the skyscrapers. That's when the big hitters come out.
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Mar 13, 2024 23:21
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catlord posted:My DC cities hot take is that Gotham should be in Massachusetts. This has drastic implications regarding the accents of every Gothamite. Gotham doesn't have enough riots about its sports teams for that to fit.
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Mar 13, 2024 23:27
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TwoPair posted:Gotham doesn't have enough riots about its sports teams for that to fit. Well the Gotham Knights constantly win the title every year but the Gotham Knights are perpetual underachievers. And don't even get me started on the Gotham Knights who couldn't win a game if their lives depended on it (and their lives usually do).
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Mar 13, 2024 23:37
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I always liked the theory that gotham is an ancient sprawling city with tight alleyways which impede sound and full of lead everywhere which is why Superman doesn’t go there unless necessary. Metropolis is bright and open so of course Batman avoids it.
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Mar 13, 2024 23:45
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The_Doctor posted:Gotham and Metropolis as cities across a small bay from eachother didn’t work for me at all.
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Gotham as some kind of Boston/Baltimore mix fits well.
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