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PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Pine Cone Jones posted:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...sh=510aaef71d63

"Golf Carts And 1960s Tanks Minus Their Turrets: As Russia Runs Out Of Purpose-Made Combat Vehicles, It’s Getting Creative ... And Desperate"

https://www.flywheelspowersports.com/product-page/2022-desertcross-1000-3

This is apparently the "Desertcross" mentioned in the article. I don't know why this is so funny to me.

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pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://x.com/Daractenus/status/1768316104043053452?s=20

Dunno the veracity of this but it seems like something may be happening that’s worthy of note

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Ukrainian air cav?

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
As far as I've heard it's just the rebel Russians fighting there, but if the news is from Russian state sources, they have an interest in presenting it as a Ukrainian assault rather than as Russians dissatisfied with their overlord.

Dick Ripple
May 19, 2021
They could be trying to evac the Russian Legion troops who have been reported fighting in the area the past few days. There have been several videos of them supposedly surrounded and on the recieving end of a lot Russian ordnance yesterday, maybe they thought it was a good time to get out. I doubt the Ukrainians have plans to breakthrough Belgogod in order to surround the Russian army in Ukraine.

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010
https://x.com/war__online/status/1768632744945275141?s=20

https://x.com/novayagazeta_en/status/1768619729252409770?s=20

https://x.com/novayagazeta_en/status/1768601846795370852?s=20

There's some brave ladies left in Russia. No knock against the dudes, it's a bit easier when you don't risk getting sent to the shtrafbat.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

pantslesswithwolves posted:

https://x.com/Daractenus/status/1768316104043053452?s=20

Dunno the veracity of this but it seems like something may be happening that’s worthy of note
There's been a handful of photos/videos, but I've not seen anything that convincing that there was a particularly significant operation. Half the videos were clearly dumb propaganda, like "RUSSIANS FLEE BELGOROD!!!!" being what looked like a half dozen people walking down a trail with a couple carts full of junk. About as believable as some of the laughable videos the Russians put out pre-invasion.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Pretty sure they just captured some village right next to the border.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc
Say it's organized.
Say it's widely disrupting elections.

How's that bad for Putin?

"Looks like we don't have a result, we will defer elections because of dissidents."

Voila more time (as if he didn't already own the process)

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Cannon_Fodder posted:

Say it's organized.
Say it's widely disrupting elections.

How's that bad for Putin?

"Looks like we don't have a result, we will defer elections because of dissidents."

Voila more time (as if he didn't already own the process)

It's not going to immediately cause is downfall, but if he can't present a big official "90+% of the country want me and love me!" then it hurts his legitimacy some, might lead to more internal unrest.

OddObserver posted:

Pretty sure they just captured some village right next to the border.

They walked over the border and captured a couple of towns, but were saying that by 7am today folks in Belgorod city should start clearing out or risk getting caught in the fighting. I guess we'll see when some videos and pictures start showing up.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
The point of the staged elections is to demonstrate to your population how firmly you have control of the power structures to make that staging happen with no hiccups.

Dissent can cause hiccups in the fake elections. If people see hiccups in the performance they may begin to doubt your ability to murder them and their families if they act on their dissent, and dissent can cause.... etc

Shade2142
Oct 10, 2012

Rollin'

pantslesswithwolves posted:

https://x.com/Daractenus/status/1768316104043053452?s=20

Dunno the veracity of this but it seems like something may be happening that’s worthy of note

They killed a few russian border guards. Then lost most of their company to artillery and airstrikes by the afternoon.

Ukraine should probably stop with these Belgorod incursions.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Shade2142 posted:

They killed a few russian border guards. Then lost most of their company to artillery and airstrikes by the afternoon.

Ukraine should probably stop with these Belgorod incursions.

To go all Kissinger/McNamara (realpolitick) for a second; it's killing Russians.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Shade2142 posted:

They killed a few russian border guards. Then lost most of their company to artillery and airstrikes by the afternoon.

Ukraine should probably stop with these Belgorod incursions.

I mean yes, Russian news say they killed hundreds of them effortlessly, but despite these "hundreds" of losses they were apparently still able to force evacuations of several border towns. I would take any Russian statement on this with not just a grain of salt, but with the entire dead sea. Like, they claim that a missile strike in Odessa that killed eight civilians and two first responders yesterday killed five hundred Ukrainian troops and two generals. They are bullshitting you! They are never a reliable source!

Also Ukraine is absolutely getting value for money out of these. The folks from the "Russian Legion of Freedom" or whatever they call themselves are card-carrying fascists, their deaths are absolutely to everyone's benefits, but if they throw away their lives running across the border with some Humvees and no expensive armor, they make Putin look unable to secure his own border and force the Russians to keep some amount of defenses manned away from where the main fighting is going on.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
That double-tap strike on Odesa killed 20 and injured 74 civilians, BTW, including rescue workers.

Splorange
Feb 23, 2011

Just Another Lurker posted:

To go all Kissinger/McNamara (realpolitick) for a second; it's killing Russians.

This strategy would work about as well now as then.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Splorange posted:

This strategy would work about as well now as then.

Not something i would personally advocate but some people will. :ughh:

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1768873365836599576

quote:

This morning, 6am local time, Russian oil refinery in Syzran, Samara region, was attacked by drones.

On the video man mentions that “AVT-6 is done” and that “K-2 column is on fire”

The capacity of the AVT-6 on the Syzran oil refinery is 6 million tons per year. That is about 70% of the capacity of the entire Syzran oil refinery 8.5 million tons of oil per year.

We're getting two or three of these refinery strikes every couple of days, that's gotta suck for someone's economy.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1768953571343491155

quote:

Democratic Russian forces from "RDK" took over 2 dozen P.O.W.s in Belgorod Oblast, their leader states, refuting claims made by the official MoD about the destruction of the group.

RDK is at least still intact enough to be taking prisoners, there are also some clips of Belgorod itself having been shelled by them, so they're definitely still pushing in that direction.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat
Who is arming these RDK fellows? Did they just raid some Soviet era depots?

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

slothrop posted:

Who is arming these RDK fellows? Did they just raid some Soviet era depots?

I presume a combination of Ukrainian weapons supply and what they loot when Russian border guards run for the hills/surrender

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





PurpleXVI posted:

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1768873365836599576

We're getting two or three of these refinery strikes every couple of days, that's gotta suck for someone's economy.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1768953571343491155

RDK is at least still intact enough to be taking prisoners, there are also some clips of Belgorod itself having been shelled by them, so they're definitely still pushing in that direction.

Well if sanctions don't work that's one way of knocking out Russian oil exports

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

slothrop posted:

Who is arming these RDK fellows? Did they just raid some Soviet era depots?

Yes, and they also raided a WW2 museum. Those brave heros. The name sucks though, they should have gone with something more nostalgic and Soviet themed

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Hmm what about "Wolverines"? Has a nice ring to it.

cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001

spankmeister posted:

Hmm what about "Wolverines"? Has a nice ring to it.

Werewolves is closer....

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

spankmeister posted:

Hmm what about "Wolverines"? Has a nice ring to it.

I think the Ukrainians are reserving that one in case they have to move to an insurgency.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

cult_hero posted:

Werewolves is closer....

Just a few countries over is dracula. Go hog wild

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
https://vxtwitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1769169072594317715

quote:

The Russian Slavyansk-on-Kuban refinery is currently burning, hit by multiple Ukrainian drones tonight.

It keeps happening.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

cult_hero posted:

Werewolves is closer....

https://youtu.be/qae25976UgA?si=Qdrvgc1xABEx0Ssr

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

A.o.D. posted:

I think the Ukrainians are reserving that one in case they have to move to an insurgency.

During the first month of the war, it was a bit of a meme to spraypaint wolverines to the side of wrecked Russian equipment. Like there are dozens of examples.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers






they send your HIMARS to the morgue, you send their refineries to the incinerator

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

they send your HIMARS to the morgue, you send their refineries to the incinerator

"I burn your milkshake, I burn it up!"

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





plus ukraine can now say they're doing their bit to reduce fossil fuel usage

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

plus ukraine can now say they're doing their bit to reduce fossil fuel usage

After a brief sudden spike

Jimmy Smuts
Aug 8, 2000

Looks like Ukraine took notes from Red Storm Rising by kicking Russia in its nuts AKA oil production facilities. Which is great but that started WW3 in that book, so uh...

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
russian soldiers took notes too

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Alan Smithee posted:

russian soldiers took notes too

Iceland?

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Blistex posted:

Iceland?

"Kill every USAF meteorologist on the island"

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1769394840649752894

quote:

GeoConfirmed UKR. (Or MDA? Republic of Moldova)

The moment a kamikaze drone hits and destroys a Russian Mi-8MT at the airport in Tiraspol, Moldova.

note: The helicopter appears to have remained stationary for the past few years.

For context: Tiraspol is the "capital" of Russia's pet rebels in Transnistria.

https://twitter.com/iamdenya_de/status/1769393867042762828

quote:

#Moldova’n authorities: “We report that the incident is an attempt to cause fear and panic in the region. The military technique in the images has not been working for several years.

The authorities in Chisinau, in contact with the #Ukrainian side, do not confirm any attack on the Transnistrian region”.

Both Moldova and Ukraine seem to be suggesting this is some Russian fuckery, though I cannot quite comprehend what they would gain from it. Are they hoping that Transnistria will open another front against western Ukraine?

poor waif
Apr 8, 2007
Kaboom

PurpleXVI posted:

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1769394840649752894

For context: Tiraspol is the "capital" of Russia's pet rebels in Transnistria.

https://twitter.com/iamdenya_de/status/1769393867042762828

Both Moldova and Ukraine seem to be suggesting this is some Russian fuckery, though I cannot quite comprehend what they would gain from it. Are they hoping that Transnistria will open another front against western Ukraine?

I guess it'd be useful for distracting Ukraine so that they have to keep troops near the Transnistrian border.

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Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Some NATO members really should just liberate Transnistria and dare Russia to do something about it.

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