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The St. Louis Cardinals are still heavily favored to win the division.
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R.D. Mangles posted:The St. Louis Cardinals are still heavily favored to win the division. I genuinely don't see how unless every other team's young guys eat total poo poo. The Cardinals rotation is loving dogshit outside of Gray, the bullpen is okay...ish and they're relying on a a 32 year old and a 36 year old bouncing back to MVP form to carry the offense. Do they have any even remotely exciting young guys? I guess Walker and Winn? Like I get it I've been watching this division for a long time to and I realize counting the Cardinals out at any point is an exercise in madness - they could run out a team of 60 year old paraplegics and they'd still probably take the season series off the Cubs - but even in a soft division I just don't see how they float to the top unless every other team just totally falls flat on its face.
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Mar 15, 2024 19:25
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R.D. Mangles posted:The St. Louis Cardinals are still heavily favored to win the division. They were this time last year, too.
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Mar 15, 2024 19:31
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Sydin posted:I genuinely don't see how unless every other team's young guys eat total poo poo. The Cardinals rotation is loving dogshit outside of Gray, the bullpen is okay...ish and they're relying on a a 32 year old and a 36 year old bouncing back to MVP form to carry the offense. Do they have any even remotely exciting young guys? I guess Walker and Winn? tell that to PECOTA and Las Vegas
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Mar 15, 2024 19:36
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wyatt langford is cool and good and my friend and its absolutely wild that the rangers drafted him the same year they won the world series and he's going to win the mvp and rookie of the year this year
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Mar 15, 2024 19:40
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#thatscum
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Mar 15, 2024 19:49
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:wyatt langford is cool and good and my friend and its absolutely wild that the rangers drafted him the same year they won the world series and he's going to win the mvp and rookie of the year this year I'm trying to temper my expectations for him this year, but the kid is going to be a badass. Hoping the rotation can hold together long enough for reinforcements to start showing up in the summer.
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Mar 15, 2024 20:10
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Thumbnails you can hear.
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Mar 15, 2024 20:14
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Sydin posted:I genuinely don't see how unless every other team's young guys eat total poo poo. The Cardinals rotation is loving dogshit outside of Gray, the bullpen is okay...ish and they're relying on a a 32 year old and a 36 year old bouncing back to MVP form to carry the offense. Do they have any even remotely exciting young guys? I guess Walker and Winn? I don’t get it either honestly. Before this extension I would have told you write marmol in pen as the first manager fired this season. I guess the optimistic viewpoint would be that Arenado and Goldschmidt had down years last year but Contreras was good and trending up by the end of the season, but the outfield is already in shambles and the youngest member of the rotation is 34. I do think the bullpen is better and ultimately I do think their record will be better than last season but worst to first just doesn’t seem realistic to me. I would have traded Goldschmidt while I had the chance tbh. I’m glad they didn’t extend him yet, I’m sure that’s coming off the heels of this dumb bullshit tho
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Mar 15, 2024 22:00
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Terry Francona appears to be morphing into Season 6 Junior Soprano.
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Mar 15, 2024 22:07
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Bismack Billabongo posted:I don’t get it either honestly. Before this extension I would have told you write marmol in pen as the first manager fired this season. I guess the optimistic viewpoint would be that Arenado and Goldschmidt had down years last year but Contreras was good and trending up by the end of the season, but the outfield is already in shambles and the youngest member of the rotation is 34. I do think the bullpen is better and ultimately I do think their record will be better than last season but worst to first just doesn’t seem realistic to me. No, you see, they've addressed all your concerns this offseason and like how the team has looked in ST quote:“I’d like to touch on maybe the bigger question of why now,” Mozeliak said. “Bill (DeWitt Jr.) and I had been reflecting on this for some time. The way we approached our offseason was to address our roster. We knew there was going to be some major overhaul. We felt we had accomplished that. Then as we got into camp and seeing how things were working, we really felt like things were being run well and did not want to go into the year with this being a distraction for Oli, for the staff or for the players. Ultimately, we have a lot of faith in him, we believe he’s the right person for the job, and we’re excited to know he’ll be here for the next few years.”
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Mar 15, 2024 22:49
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So...did everybody hate Tyler O'Neill or what the gently caress was up with that whole thing?
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Mar 15, 2024 23:11
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It definitely seems like it because nobody stuck up for him after that whole ordeal lol.
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Mar 15, 2024 23:18
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What was the Tyler O'Neill thing?
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Mar 15, 2024 23:33
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Marmol benched him for jogging into an out on the basepaths last April and called him out in the press. O'Neill fired back via the press. Cards fans got real excited for a few days. Everyone forgot about it by mid-May. O'Neill continued being bad and/or injured. The Cards dumped him to Boston after the season and re-signed Marmol. I'm pretty sure if you look up "dudebro" in the dictionary there's a picture of Tyler O'Neill. You'd think he'd fit right into a major league clubhouse
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Mar 15, 2024 23:36
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They traded him away; he was constantly hurt; he is fast and can theoretically hit home runs; they never really committed to him; etc etc He was unfairly maligned but he also isn't going to be a regular contributor to any team I don't think
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Mar 15, 2024 23:37
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Astros are apparently in "serious" pursuit of Snell. Guess it got serious with JV and Urquidy injuries https://x.com/Chandler_Rome/status/1768767776393507009?s=20 MrMidnight fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Mar 15, 2024 |
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Mar 15, 2024 23:37
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I mean I guess Snell might take a 5 year contract at this point.
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Mar 15, 2024 23:45
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They're going to explode in the second half if they get Snell.
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Mar 15, 2024 23:50
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If the Yankees had panic signed Snell as a response to injuries I assume astros posters would have thoughts.
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Mar 15, 2024 23:55
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Well, I have thoughts for sure, but also we aren't replacing our $300m ace, we're replacing the number 5 guy in the rotation. So Snell would be an upgrade. e: fifth OR sixth
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Mar 15, 2024 23:59
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zoux posted:Well, I have thoughts for sure, but also we aren't replacing our $300m ace, we're replacing the number 5 guy in the rotation. So Snell would be an upgrade. Are not 4 of the astros 5 starters on the LL including a guy who is 57 years old?
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Mar 16, 2024 00:00
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Yeah, but we got two guys who pitched in the post season through the ALCS who can and have stepped up. JV is just behind schedule, he's going to be out like a week of the season. But you're right, after the ASB if everyone is on track our rotation with snell would be unbelievably sick.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:03
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Eric the Mauve posted:I mean I guess Snell might take a 5 year contract at this point. The rumors were that he was willing to go shorter/very opt-out laden, but I wonder if the Yankees/Astros news are giving him more leverage back?
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Mar 16, 2024 00:03
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Even with Verlander, Snell makes sense for the Astros.
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Snell makes sense for any team that's looking to compete because there's literally no team with five better starters than him, hell there's arguably not a team with 3+ better starters. Yeah he's got some warts but he unambiguously provides a huge boost to anybody who went out and got him.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:09
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Mike_V posted:They traded him away; he was constantly hurt; he is fast and can theoretically hit home runs; they never really committed to him; etc etc I actually kinda like a rebound in Boston 
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Sydin posted:Snell makes sense for any team that's looking to compete because there's literally no team with five better starters than him, hell there's arguably not a team with 3+ better starters. Yeah he's got some warts but he unambiguously provides a huge boost to anybody who went out and got him. Yes but there's a big dropoff for Houston after Framber and Verlander. Snell gives them a big three.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:13
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Yeah I'm more just saying that it's bullshit he's been iced out this long. Nobody competing really needs to make some fringe case for signing him, he's just a straight upgrade. idk maybe he and Boras were truly asking for something extraordinarily unreasonable but by this point he's probably going to struggle to be ready for opening day because of how much ST he's missed.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:16
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He is the prototype of the Elbow Soreness VirginSydin posted:Yeah I'm more just saying that it's bullshit he's been iced out this long. Nobody competing really needs to make some fringe case for signing him, he's just a straight upgrade. idk maybe he and Boras were truly asking for something extraordinarily unreasonable but by this point he's probably going to struggle to be ready for opening day because of how much ST he's missed. https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1768772558764343706 gently caress that he's our opening day starter
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I kind of get why Snell's unsigned. He has two Cy Young Awards and probably wants to get paid accordingly, but he's not a real ace and coming off of only his second 30 start season. Why Montgomery hasn't signed seems less clear.
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Yeah if the Astros are going after a starter I'd very much prefer Montgomery Although Snells thing of giving five innings then leaving isn't as bad with the Astros pen
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live with fruit posted:I kind of get why Snell's unsigned. He has two Cy Young Awards and probably wants to get paid accordingly, but he's not a real ace and coming off of only his second 30 start season. Why Montgomery hasn't signed seems less clear. I think the feeling on Montgomery is that he's been good recently but hasn't proven he'll stay good. He's gonna want the contract that takes him to retirement, and he's gonna want to be paid as a TOR starter, but I think teams are worried that he won't be anything like that in 5-6 years.
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if Snell finally figured his poo poo out mentally the dude is going to go out there and handle poo poo, even if he's not an innings eater he's one of the best in the game when he's on. as evidenced by the 2 Cy Young awards. as a fan of dudes who look like they're completely blasted I hope he's got his mental dialed in and signs with the Cubs
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Blake Snell has two Cys but also averaged out to a JAG for the 4 years in-between. Plus he led the league in walks, only goes 5 IP a start and most importantly, is extremely unfun to actually watch give me Monty
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Mar 16, 2024 01:03
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How's Diaz at blocking pitches in the dirt? Because he'd have to be fantastic.
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Mar 16, 2024 01:14
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1768788271465914774 Well at least he didn't have to go far, although dang talk about being banished.
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could see the argument for going to the A’s in that situation to be a bet on yourself because if you produce any value whatsoever there’s a good chance you get flipped to a contender
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I definitely did not think this guy would get another job https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1768803639135486440?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA
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FlamingLiberal posted:I definitely did not think this guy would get another job lol the Pirates are collecting some real winners this season. When's the Bauer contract announced?
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