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also the communist are about to die as a semi relevant party, as always Portugal is 30 years behind the general trend in the west.
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# ? May 21, 2024 07:00 |
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Maybe, but the fact that the CGTP is still around kicking and moving means that Communism as an ideal is still kicking around as a movement. If it can mobilize regarding Palestine or about getting people paid, I don't think the PCP having a smaller share of votes these days wouldn't change potential worker action these days. Hearing the guy before Raimundo point this out and having the press response being "ok so you are going to protest about the will of the people?" is specially thick on a country where you can see labor action still going even during times where PCP would enjoy a higher share in the parliament.
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There was more people voting this time than in over 20 years so maybe it's a good sign, we'll see, I doubt any government out of this will last the entire run and Marcelo will go for a hat trick in taking down the assembly
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 20:25 |
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The exit polls lean to a close tie between ad and ps, with ad leading by a bit.
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 21:07 |
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chega got the third most deputies so yeah, this sucks, not a big surprise, i guess it could have been worse SLB is on in 15 mins
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 21:13 |
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I'm saying side by side bc atm if you go by both head count, technically the left has slightly more votes, but I'll wait until all is counted. No Gerigonca so far, and no chance of AD leading the charge unless he joins with Chega, which will be one hell of a betrayal. Sic telling people how to "vote properly" was one hell of a thing, I guess they dropped the pretense at this point now that their party is on route to be the leader. Even if this means that they're gonna pender more to a party whose people were directly threatening them on the police protests. Kunster has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Mar 10, 2024 |
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lol ok the results just keep getting worse and worse this poo poo sucks
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 22:56 |
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Chega's results are an embarassment, and as predicted the communist party has the worst result ever. I can perfectly see AD and IL in a coalition, supported by Chega in the parliament. We're screwed.
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 23:21 |
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I made the joke that these elections were gonna be like Z-fighting, but on the sense of two overlapping planes flashing than anything too exciting.
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 23:49 |
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Kefahuchi_son!!! posted:Chega's results are an embarassment, and as predicted the communist party has the worst result ever. chega second in lisbon is craaazy but in hindsight, not that surprising given how many people have been anxious over insecurity and want to feel the boot of a cop on their throat anyways, whoever wants Avante EPs talk to me
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 23:54 |
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Honest Thief posted:chega second in lisbon is craaazy but in hindsight, not that surprising given how many people have been anxious over insecurity and want to feel the boot of a cop on their throat literal insecurity? was crime a big issue this election?
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 23:56 |
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i say swears online posted:literal insecurity? was crime a big issue this election? perceived insecurity, we have one of the lowest crime rates in europe but the fascist party, platformed by the media, and cops unions have been on a warpath about it, and people have been feeling more anxious about everything else so I guess that was a easy lick what are you gonna say to people once they believe theyre in constant danger? I swear some people need a good slap in the face and smell the ashes
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 00:00 |
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i say swears online posted:literal insecurity? was crime a big issue this election? Crime, corruption, immigration is the Chega playbook, just like most european fascist parties. Even if none of them is a serious problem in Portugal, compared to the rising cost of living, the lack of affordable habitation, the brain drain, the state of our nhs, the permanent understaffing and underfunding of public services and so on.
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 01:23 |
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Kunster posted:
which lovely commentator is this?
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 01:55 |
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Joao Miguel Tavares. ... Huh ps conceded. Weird, as he could have gotten another Geringonça going and there was still people to fill in. Oh well, that's gonna be a big rear end opposition.
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 02:05 |
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literally anything could happen from these results lol
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 03:22 |
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I went to bad a bit angry at Pedro Nuno Santos for conceeding and I woke up today and I noticed that he has now a bigger share. The President, AD and the libertarians don't want Chega to be involved on a government solution, so if they go ahead in a AD+IL thing, It's either gonna be a rule where Chega is just there to approve whatever (Or Not out of spite since they tend to be a wildcard at times) and the left coalition would just have a good chance to block everything. I thought this was a nice loser at first but... what can you do? Again, they loving freaked out about ONE ADN SEAT! They can't "Oh its totes like Jill Stein!!" this because the voting share is absurdedly small if they were out of the picture! They would be on the same situation even if ADN didn't wander in like a confused dog. The electoral commission was totally right about this I'm sorry.
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 10:35 |
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It prob plays smarter to play opposition against a unruly coalition than lead on the same conditions and maybe get overthrown again by the MP
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 12:02 |
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even without the uh let’s say iffy law cases, this PS government was a train wreck. like I don’t think they’ll get a outright majority for the next decade plus. actually, I don’t think any party will in the foreseeable future, we’ll probably become Belgium light. boy, that’s gonna gently caress up marcelos legacy.
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 15:20 |
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So broadly what went wrong in Portugal? Standard social democrat bullshit?
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 15:43 |
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:So broadly what went wrong in Portugal? Standard social democrat bullshit? A bit of what went wrong with Europe in general with deindustrialisation in order to get that sweet EU money and pump Germany manufacturing, but more locally our revolution was stopped from outright bleeding the fascists and the stripping the elites of their gains, so they always hung around getting fat rich
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 16:41 |
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I would say a good positive of this election is that it managed to outright destroy Sic's reputation as being the more serious minded network of the bunch. They got what they wanted (PSD back in power, technically), but at the cost of breaking so much electoral standards and having the talking heads on the news weepingly asking the viewer to vote AD for the sake of democracy and screaming at the Bolsonaristas to vote for the real party and not their ""fake"" one, hours before the ballots closed. Beforehand they had outright plausible deniability. Oh we accidently put a timer for Lula's arrest. Oh we accidently got a Bolsonarista as a "neutral" viewer after his elections. Oh we accidently covered a Syrian bombing like a pink magazine article. Oh we accidently let Cymerman post a stab vest advert in the middle of the ads for "worried ISraelis" with recreations of crazed Palestinians with no warning on the middle of the report. Oh we accidently cut out the case for Corbyn as being purely personality based. Oh we accidently let LMM outright threaten to Assange the poo poo out of the Luanda Leaks guy because he embarassed Cristiano Ronaldo. Oh we aci- Sorry, the Portuguese now are aware they can either get semi-reasonable coverage on RTP or if they want slop, they can either go TVI, CNNPT or CM. They no longer need a Father Karras from Thief figure howling at them on how its populist to return the lost wages of teachers and how baby-like they were for demanding it, only for their party to Them forcibly return the wages. They don't have to put up with "YOu can save a lot of money if you just read the contracts for x y and z and end up selling most of your data or rights for a slightly smaller utility bill! This is the most reasonable thing ever!!!11". They killed Assussão Cristas's chance for an actual centre-ruling and ended up killing a chance for the "right candidate" they would endorse on any sort of foreign election because she dared to half endorse LGBTQ stuff or help the national healthcare system. Now they're stuck with a guy too scared to talk to Rui Tavares and , well, Andre Ventura eagerly waiting to see how big of a pie he's gonna get. I am amazed there's no Israeli embassador congratulations, that guy was the sole one on the Publico 10 Themes things outright asking for more help towards Israel! There is no "The true path to leftism is to vote Chega and push it left" dipshits, so I'd say we're still somewhat reasonable on that front.
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 17:15 |
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The true path to leftism is to vote Chega and push it left,off a cliff
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 21:12 |
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https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1767479320350503383 that's allright, they'll just create a 99 year lease, it'll be fine
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 16:44 |
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I never would have joined the "we will put a base in your country" organisation had I known the consequences!
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 16:48 |
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double nine posted:https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1767479320350503383
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 16:49 |
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double nine posted:https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1767479320350503383 Could have thought about this a bit earlier imo
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 16:50 |
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oh this is a hoot https://dcweekly.org/2024/03/12/sweden-rejects-permanent-nato-bases-questions-need-for-nuclear-weapons-on-its-soil/ quote:In a recent statement to the Turkish news agency Anadolu, Tobias Billström, the Swedish Minister of Foreign Affairs, made it clear that Sweden does not want permanent NATO bases in the country. While Sweden acknowledges the presence of NATO forces, the country has decided against hosting permanent alliance bases.
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double nine posted:https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1767479320350503383 it's a stupid technicality with which these arseholes are much too pleased basically what they do is make all the swedish bases "shared" bases, where US troops have sovereign jurisdiction and are not obliged to pay tolls or taxes or to submit to swedish inspection &c. this way, they're stationed in the shared bases, so there are no US bases! because journalists are blithering idiots this really does serve to distort the public conversation about this stuff. they pulled a similar trick in norway. i hate it. i hate it. i hate it.
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 20:41 |
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Yes, the big red white and blue dick is going into our rear end in a top hat, but we're gaping so wide they're not technically *loving* us.
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 21:16 |
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The Swedish intelligence services have been working in secret with the USA and the UK since at least 1954 as far as the public knows. Why would you trust any public statement made by the Swedish government regarding neutrality. Swedish television, SVT posted:The Snowden Documents
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 21:25 |
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The Danish government wants to spend an additional 40.5 billion DKK on defense over the next four years and expand conscription from 4 to 11 months and include women.
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# ? Mar 13, 2024 11:28 |
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good luck to the danish broomstick brigades
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# ? Mar 13, 2024 11:47 |
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SplitSoul posted:The Danish government wants to spend an additional 40.5 billion DKK on defense over the next four years and expand conscription from 4 to 11 months and include women. It seems like it was a poor idea to get rid of all their artillery then unless their plan was to radically depopulate themselves.
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Ardennes posted:It seems like it was a poor idea to get rid of all their artillery then unless their plan was to radically depopulate themselves. I simply won't stand for this slanderous disparagement of the proud Armed Forces of the Kingdom of Denmark, they have the Elbit ATMOS 2000 self-propelled gun system (singular).
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# ? Mar 13, 2024 12:53 |
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Ardennes posted:It seems like it was a poor idea to get rid of all their artillery then unless their plan was to radically depopulate themselves. they're only increasing the number of annual conscripts from 4.7k to 5k tho, so the money will probably mostly be for matériel
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# ? Mar 13, 2024 19:51 |
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Carthag Tuek posted:they're only increasing the number of annual conscripts from 4.7k to 5k tho, so the money will probably mostly be for matériel
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https://x.com/jacobin/status/1767898457811898677?s=20gradenko_2000 posted:I posted this the other day: i'll skip to the end: https://x.com/JimmyFalunGong/status/1768721373361279077?s=20
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# ? Mar 16, 2024 06:19 |
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SplitSoul posted:The Danish government wants to...expand conscription from 4 to 11 months and include women. how well does that poll?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:bras for 300 big-boobed babes it's this
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