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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I’ve found Garland sus for a long while now, but he struck me more as a pretentious git than as a complete moron. Yeah, 28 Days Later, Sunshine, Dredd, Ex Machina, and Annihilation are all so good. It's hard to see him fall after all that.
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Pinterest Mom posted:
As a dumb American I must admit a certain relief/terror knowing everyone else is just as stupid.
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It was posted earlier in the thread that it makes a certain sense if they're going with the idea of America just regular crumbling or going "fascist" in the sense of just being evil and pissing everyone off, which it sounds like. California and Texas throw in together because you gotta knock down the king before you can split things up later. But yeah, insanely dumb sounding and not sure why you'd even do a civil war movie if you didn't want to explore the politics of it. You could have just done any war or left it even more vague/abstract. I guess it could be a cool looking/edited movie but man is it bad when loving Bushwick has better thought out politics. Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:But yeah, insanely dumb sounding and not sure why you'd even do a civil war movie if you didn't want to explore the politics of it. You could have just done any war or left it even more vague/abstract. Hell, a vague one sounds like a better angle for making it frightening. Major networks are offline, perhaps your region has had cables cut to it and you're not sure who's friend or foe based on the last things you hear. Which way do you go, do you hunker down? Can you trust anyone in town who claims to have a line to the outside world or is this a power grab? A lot of uncertainty seems like the kind of thing that he'd work really well with for tension, and yet... Instead he started from one of the dumbest possible points and every elaboration has only made it seem even sillier.
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Oh, yeah, Jericho was a let's say uneven show, but that was a really cool thing it started off with in the first season. The viewer has a little more knowledge thanks to one character, but nobody else really has any idea what's going on after half of the country gets nuked. Other than occasional signs of life that some of the government made it. About halfway through the first season they find out about and send a group of traders off to a Fallout-style Barter Town that was set up on a fairgrounds. The fairgrounds have an info board where people pin rumors and news that they've picked up. They find out that there are 5 separate presidents and other claimants ranging from governors of big states to the 95th senator who's technically the guy in the chain of command who was supposed to be president to generals who think it should be a military government for a little bit. With a caveat that some of this could be outdated or bullshit. They pretty quickly shake it down to East vs. West with an independent Texas choosing to wait and see, but it was a cool idea.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Oh, yeah, Jericho was a let's say uneven show, but that was a really cool thing it started off with in the first season. The viewer has a little more knowledge thanks to one character, but nobody else really has any idea what's going on after half of the country gets nuked. Other than occasional signs of life that some of the government made it.
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knowing absolutely nothing about jericho it sounds more considered than alex garland's civil war movie i liked ex machina and annihilation as aesthetic pieces that i did not think about very much, and when i heard about men i assumed he did not have the writing chops to pull off that kind of social commentary and didn't bother. civil war sounds like more of the same in that regard.
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Men is the absolute nadir of this dumbass “elevated horror” trend that A24 and Blumhouse ushered in, just an absolutely miserable, dreadful film
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The concept for Civil War is very similar to the Vertigo comic series DMZ, which was about a war reporter who goes into NYC, which is a no-man's land between two warring sides of a new civil war. It apparently got some kind of lovely Hulu miniseries that had little to no connection to the actual source material a couple of years ago.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The concept for Civil War is very similar to the Vertigo comic series DMZ, which was about a war reporter who goes into NYC, which is a no-man's land between two warring sides of a new civil war. It apparently got some kind of lovely Hulu miniseries that had little to no connection to the actual source material a couple of years ago. Creator of the comic agrees https://twitter.com/brianwood/status/1734946793941574047?t=pN-LYrih-QuJZEuWkULYxA&s=19 It was on HBO and it seems that they were more interested in putting their bets on The Last of Us a year later. Brian Wood is, as I recall, not a good person, but the comic was decent, especially standalone stories from the city.
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Civil War should have been a comedy but probably so should have Men
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Pirate Jet posted:Men is the absolute nadir of this dumbass “elevated horror” trend that A24 and Blumhouse ushered in, just an absolutely miserable, dreadful film Elevated horror, but featuring a haunted skyscraper and an elevator ride.
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My impression about Garland has long been that he’s just really a lot dumber than he thinks he is. His movies introduce ideas but then they seem to fail to say anything interesting or clear about them. They just go the dumb route but there’s an air of arrogance like something very deep was said. And that politics quote certainly supports that idea.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah those are just territorial purchase historical maps They don't teach ANYTHING in schools anymore.
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Thats literally just "when territory was added to the US" lmao at the Gadsden Purchase being a discrete identity. Edit should have refreshed
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So is the new thread ready yet? I mean we are past Oscar Season so it should be appropriate to start a new thread.
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Wow you made it 2.5 days this time, congrats
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Baron, he’s keeping the lights on! :salute:
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Even if this is just garland saying both-sidesism stuff to try to juice ticket sales, the whole point of releasing a movie like this during an election year is to profit off of anxious doomscrollers, so lol that their marketing strategy is "politics doesn't matter so much you should stop worrying about it"
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The reviews I've read seem to confirm that its politics are dumb as rocks. It sounds like it's going after a "after the fighting is over and the smoke clears, does anyone even remember what we were fighting over?"
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Sounds dumb as gently caress
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feedmyleg posted:The reviews I've read seem to confirm that its politics are dumb as rocks. It sounds like it's going after a "after the fighting is over and the smoke clears, does anyone even remember what we were fighting over?" So, yet another useless hand-wringing shitlib then?
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You guys are all really mad about a movie you haven’t seen
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Vegetable posted:You guys are all really mad about a movie you haven’t seen I'm not mad or anything, I saw the trailer before Dunc 2 and thought it was crass and, for reasons that do not seem readily apparent, aping Zombieland.
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Vegetable posted:You guys are all really mad about a movie you haven’t seen Turns out the cause of the civil war was people arguing about Civil War
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Alex Garland is good at building mood, and mood can be enough to save a mid movie. Civil War might not be a theatre experience for me, but I expect I'll enjoy it on streaming. Also, looking into it is how I found out Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemons are married. Good for them.
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Vegetable posted:You guys are all really mad about a movie you haven’t seen This poo poo is so loving lame. People watched the trailers and are like “man this looks like it sucks.” This isn’t even in like, the top fifty angriest incidents I’ve seen in CineD.
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Post da list
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Everything I hear about it makes me think of Ed the Sock ripping into a Greenday music video where he said the theme was “War is Bad” and that’s a really loving lame “take” because it’s safe and doesn’t piss off The Money.
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Also it's just kind of funny. Or at least I think it's funny. Like, from the trailers and interviews, it's a "controversial" movie pitch that should either go abstract as hell or dig deep into a message. And instead from what I've seen it's basically "So President Evil wins and he's like 'Lol, I'm evil y'all' and he bans all the FBI so they can't even arrest him Which, if it was a fun dumb movie I might be down for, but it's by the guy who likes to make more serious movies so it's funny. The setup is lagging behind a movie where a wrestler throws President Evil out of the Oval Office and yells "You've just been impeached!"
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Given the surprisingly positive reviews from SXSW I have to wonder if the movie is being done no favors by A24's marketing strategy of "WITNESS THE BRILLIANT WORLDBUILDING OF ALEX GARLAND" and it's not actually very important in the film itself.
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Never make a new thread, 2023 is forever.
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Its 2023 somewhere
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My brain won't fully register that it's 2024 until may at the earliest. So I'm cool with the old thread for now
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Revive the 2020 thread just to make that weirdo even angrier
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It's funny that they haven't even bothered perma-ing the last account, they're just gonna keep rereging anyway.
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At this point this thread is profit-generating for SA so I would suggest not changing a thing about it
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Vegetable posted:You guys are all really mad about a movie you haven’t seen There are some seriously thin skinned  replys all over the forums regarding this movie.How dare he!
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STAC Goat posted:My impression about Garland has long been that he’s just really a lot dumber than he thinks he is. His movies introduce ideas but then they seem to fail to say anything interesting or clear about them. They just go the dumb route but there’s an air of arrogance like something very deep was said. And that politics quote certainly supports that idea. Same here. Ex Machina was the first act of a better story carried by outstanding performances. FlamingLiberal posted:The concept for Civil War is very similar to the Vertigo comic series DMZ, which was about a war reporter who goes into NYC, which is a no-man's land between two warring sides of a new civil war. It apparently got some kind of lovely Hulu miniseries that had little to no connection to the actual source material a couple of years ago. The comic fuckin' sucked too. Actually, that's inaccurate. Everything up to the end of the election arc is good. I've never been more sure that a writer didn't plan his work past a certain point than everything after that. It was twisting in the wind for so long, ending with absolute wank where it all comes down to his super important and special main character who ends the war because he writes so well and then sacrifices himself by getting guantanmoed It's a weirdly messianic ending for a character who was never built that way and I remember being mad about it for a good week.
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