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SKULL.GIF posted:Am I just imagining things or didn't Burrow have nearly as much hype as Trevor? Nah, he didn’t. I remember articles pondering whether the Bengals should take Young over Burrow. Being a one year wonder without elite physical tools kept him from reaching that tier.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Am I just imagining things or didn't Burrow have nearly as much hype as Trevor? I feel like you can group the #1 overall QBs in three tiers: - Generational "can't miss" guys - Consensus guys - Lack of consensus guys There was a consensus that Burrow was the #1 pick/QB so he makes the second tier, but I don't remember many people calling him a generational talent. That's a bit of hyperbole that draft experts still tend to hold back on from what I can tell.
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Sataere posted:I get that I'm in the minority on seeing this, but it just kept showing up to me. So many of his big plays downfield feel like broken plays. A lot of the closer ones, I just hate his ball placement. I suspect cleaning up his mechanics and not having a dogshit line will help with some of this. Maye's deepball accuracy is great tho?  Maye's major problem accuracy wise is throwing to his right for some weird reason. YOLOsubmarine posted:Nah, he didn’t. I remember articles pondering whether the Bengals should take Young over Burrow. Being a one year wonder without elite physical tools kept him from reaching that tier. Yeah Burrow was a huge 1 year wonder player, that played with a all timer WR in Jamarr chase. His 1 year wonder was at least his second year in the league though, unlike some QB's in this draft who had his breakout heisman year when he played with elite 2 first round pick WR's after a rather middling 4 seasons previously. Dexo fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Am I just imagining things or didn't Burrow have nearly as much hype as Trevor? Burrow was more of a one hit wonder, which kept him from being in that generational tier. Granted, that one hit was the greatest college football season ever.
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I also remember there being Burrow vs Tua debate before Tua got injured.
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Dexo posted:
That is probably what I'm seeing. I don't really focus on side being thrown when I'm watching. Just good or not good. quote:Yeah Burrow was a huge 1 year wonder player, that played with a all timer WR in Jamarr chase. And Justin Jefferson. In hindsight, we really should've seen CEH bust status coming. Also if Nabers falls to nine and the Bears pass, I will never forgive Poles.
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SKULL.GIF posted:A current 6th is worth about 1.25% of the #11 pick, I'd say a future 6th is probably half of that? I wasn't really looking to judge it vs the value of the Vikings pick just making fun of the guy that said Fields was worth a first, but thank you all the same
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surf rock posted:I also remember there being Burrow vs Tua debate before Tua got injured. Yeah. Heck, Bama would have beaten LSU if tua wasn't hurt - that first drive he dropped the ball out of nowhere for a fumble because of the ankle pain he was playing with Meanwhile Trevor Lawrence absolutely torched Bama as a freshman, then declined a bit after that, but everyone was just salivating over him the whole time
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IcePhoenix posted:I wasn't really looking to judge it vs the value of the Vikings pick just making fun of the guy that said Fields was worth a first, but thank you all the same Fields was the #11 pick which is why I used that specific number.
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I will continue to cheer for Justin Fields and I'm glad that he went to a perennially winning franchise where he could actually compete for a starting spot. I believe Justin can be great, but he clearly needs work the Bears were unable to provide. Hopefully Tomlin and the Canada-less Steelers can give Justin the rebound he deserves.
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trevorreznik posted:Yeah. Heck, Bama would have beaten LSU if tua wasn't hurt - that first drive he dropped the ball out of nowhere for a fumble because of the ankle pain he was playing with It was 3rd and goal and he wasn’t going to make it to the endzone, it was a 3 point swing at worst and LSU end up with a 20 point lead at halftime. He dropped the ball trying to move it to his other hand, it’s not like he cried out in pain and fell over holding his lower leg. In conclusion Bama was always going to lose because they were not a team of destiny, LSU was.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Fields was the #11 pick which is why I used that specific number. oh that's a fun coincidence then
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It was 3rd and goal and he wasn’t going to make it to the endzone, it was a 3 point swing at worst and LSU end up with a 20 point lead at halftime. He dropped the ball trying to move it to his other hand, it’s not like he cried out in pain and fell over holding his lower leg. Don't bring all these facts in here, football is a game of Momentum and Emotion
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trevorreznik posted:Don't bring all these facts in here, football is a game of Momentum and Emotion The momentum and emotion of LSU being the team of destiny overcame such things like the opposing team about to score
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They need to take a top OT like Fashanu or Fuaga so Caleb isn't running for his life all game
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JF1 is an above average talent who had below average production, for the most part due to a subpar supporting cast (coaching included), and when the supporting cast improved his flaws became magnified. I truly hope his flaws are coached out in the Steel City.R.D. Mangles posted:I will never believe again. 
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Edible just kicked in and my idle thoughts just hit me a vision of an unfortunately decently likely, Cursed but very funny future. There is like a decently high chance, that in the near future, the Bears get a significantly better trade return for Tyson Bagent than they just did for Fields
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Dexo posted:Edible just kicked in and my idle thoughts just hit me a vision of an unfortunately decently likely, Cursed but very funny future. Yes, but thats because he doesnt have a 25 million dollar anchor on him.
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R.D. Mangles posted:think it might be time to be done with the nfl
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R.D. Mangles posted:think it might be time to be done with the nfl You don’t need football, you have Boo Buie.
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CharlestheHammer posted:The position is irrelevant if your coaches suck at developing QBs They're already loving his development and he hasn't even been drafted. Niwrad posted:Better offensive line and Bruce Arians. I think they drafted TY that year too. Reggie Wayne was also really loving good.
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De'Vondre Campbell unloading on Joe Barry and the Packers D coaching, you just love to see it
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Good Will Hrunting posted:De'Vondre Campbell unloading on Joe Barry and the Packers D coaching, you just love to see it For people who aren't hooked into Xitter: Pretty clearly taking shots at Barry here. His previous tweets also say he was massively mis-used and that he spent most snaps trying to get other players on the correct assignments.
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HootTheOwl posted:They're already loving his development and he hasn't even been drafted. How?
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surf rock posted:I would bet money on the Packers defense improving next year to somewhere in the #8-#16 DVOA range and the Packers offense having a sophomore slump until midway through the season. I can picture it so clearly. It will be worth it but this thread will go places if that happens
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Mike N Eich posted:How? They are drafting him
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Mike N Eich posted:How? By making him play day one By strapping him to a lame duck staff
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Mike N Eich posted:How? There is no point trying to talk with doomers. It's just a brick wall of cynicism.
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Dexo posted:There is no point trying to talk with doomers. And yet I can't stop engaging lol. It really is hard not to get excited for the future. I'm with you in thinking Flus is not the lame duck coach everyone is making him out to be. This is going to be the best position a rookie quarterback has ever gone into and that quarterback is fantastically good. We have a top five receiving core and our third best receiving option being Kmet is just fire. They are so loving primed
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if caleb william is truly Him than it probably doesn't matter. The jaguars gave Trevor Lawrence the literal worst coach we've ever seen in the NFL and he was fine. You can critique Flus for sure but like... he's not loving Urbz.
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Eberflus doesn't matter here, Shane Waldron does. Eberflus's job isn't in danger if the team is better than last year, and, this may be crazy, but I think it will be better! Because the roster is better!
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R.D. Mangles posted:Williams is going to have an insane amount of pressure on him and rookie quarterbacks with very rare exceptions struggle. Part of the reason rookie quarterbacks struggle is because they inevitably end up on very bad teams. It is why mid round rookies always seem to flash. They are on better teams. Williams is going to have a ton of pressure, but he's been a top prospect since high school. It isn't like it is something new. CharlestheHammer posted:Trevor is a bad QB that people pretend is good 
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This is a fun article: https://twitter.com/erikschlitt/status/1769423596198257060?t=uRNKj-YTp06tSmBKzl3pMQ&s=19
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Acebuckeye13 posted:This is a fun article: You are my enemy now.
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