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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

kater posted:

does an unsellable Florida condo still contribute property tax?

Just jack up the sales tax rates - bing bong, so simple!

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Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!
You say unsellable, I say rentable :twisted:

Colin Mockery
Jun 24, 2007
Rawr



mags posted:

more like the Nice Age

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

aquaman gonna be happy

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

quote:

The coast was the warmest place with highs in the 70s. In fact, Quillayute airport hit 73 as a new record Friday and Saturday's high temp was a remarkable 80 degrees! It has never been 80 degrees in Quillayute in the month of March! If it weren’t for the Cascade and Olympic Mountains, this probably would not have happened.


yeah totally, if not for the cascade and olympic mountains. for sure.

Hashy
Nov 20, 2005

The seas look warm but I needed to get the blanket out of the closet last night. We're entering a new Mild age

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Gotta remember to bring the citrus & avocados back in tomorrow it'll be mildin'

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

The Oldest Man posted:

If you want a nuanced scientific debate go to an ipcc subcommittee meeting and exclude a hot model from aggregate risk assessment about it

And if I wanted the politically useful answer, then I'd just read the Summary for Policymakers. :haw:

I hoot and holler and share my little bdelloid meme creations, but I care deeply about the histories and sciences of biosphere collapse, its features and facets.

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



gently caress A SCIENCE

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



NUMBER GO UP

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



VENUS BY TUESDAY

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Jizzny Princess posted:

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7346317248346262827

The delusion is strong.

I don't think that beach will last even 4 years.

that's not a beach that's a loving sandbar

Knitting Beetles
Feb 4, 2006

Fallen Rib

Rauros posted:

i'm not a climate change guy as the ocean swallows my house. what are we going to do, lose billions of dollars of real estate?

lmao

Soon we'll get to see that Atlantis scene in Erik the Viking with some boomer sitting on his roof screaming it's not really happening

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

mags posted:

more like the Nice Age

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!
Yet another "freak storm" at king tide

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark

mags posted:

Anthropocene? more like the Nice Age

swamp thong
Nov 6, 2023
thank you to everyone who put their icecubes in the ocean this week, you are making a positive difference for fisheries

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.
I posted a thread on a maple processing forum looking for advice on a min spec for rebuild of my destroyed sugaring operation, and totally unprompted one of the small number of replies I got was careful to coach things in terms of "do you have an intended use in mind for the structure when ( /if) sugaring ends?". That's a pretty black pilled response from a buncha maple enthusiasts and this leads me to think that people who have their finger in the agritech pot to any significant degree, understand at least the periphery of the monstrous changes unfolding around us.

I myself don't claim to understand more than the periphery; hence I will ski while there is snow to ski on, and boil sap while there is sap to boil.

Yields could fall 90% and we'd still be set for our own supply, but I think if yeilds are ever down 90% it's the last year of any of this poo poo.

Maybe it's all projection from my own internal, but walking around forests lately I have had the thought, "the land is waking up.... pissed off.... because it didn't sleep long enough and it knows it and summer 2024 is gonna absolutely be a wild ride of one catastrophe after another, all dogpiling into the stupidest US election cycle of my life" :allears:

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


it's going to be a profoundly stupid year

but not as dumb as 2025

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!

Cabbages and Kings posted:

Maybe it's all projection from my own internal, but walking around forests lately I have had the thought, "the land is waking up.... pissed off.... because it didn't sleep long enough and it knows it and summer 2024 is gonna absolutely be a wild ride of one catastrophe after another, all dogpiling into the stupidest US election cycle of my life" :allears:

We are definitely at the point this year of multiple systems under strain starting to break, and we don't yet actually know what it will look like once they are definitively broken

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Dokapon Findom posted:

We are definitely at the point this year of multiple systems under strain starting to break, and we don't yet actually know what it will look like once they are definitively broken

The best part about climate change is that it won't end, there won't be a "definitively broken" state because we will be told very loudly that it's under control even as the famines start, and there won't be a new normal within many, many lifetimes.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
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Dokapon Findom posted:

We are definitely at the point this year of multiple systems under strain starting to break, and we don't yet actually know what it will look like once they are definitively broken

Dear resident,

The leasing office expresses its deepest sympathies as you undergo this period of mourning. This summer's death wave is no joke and while we understand the need to process your grief, we must also remind you that rent is due on the first.


Have a nice day.

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

it's going to be a profoundly stupid year

but not as dumb as 2025

least dumb year of the rest of our lives

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Climate change is being told "yeah yeah we're about to fix it" every day until you're dead

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


The Oldest Man posted:

The best part about climate change is that it won't end, there won't be a "definitively broken" state because we will be told very loudly that it's under control even as the famines start, and there won't be a new normal within many, many lifetimes.
https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/fee.1794

shifting baseline syndrome

quote:

With ongoing environmental degradation at local, regional, and global scales, people's accepted thresholds for environmental conditions are continually being lowered. In the absence of past information or experience with historical conditions, members of each new generation accept the situation in which they were raised as being normal. This psychological and sociological phenomenon is termed shifting baseline syndrome (SBS), which is increasingly recognized as one of the fundamental obstacles to addressing a wide range of today's global environmental issues. Yet our understanding of this phenomenon remains incomplete. We provide an overview of the nature and extent of SBS and propose a conceptual framework for understanding its causes, consequences, and implications. We suggest that there are several self-reinforcing feedback loops that allow the consequences of SBS to further accelerate SBS through progressive environmental degradation. Such negative implications highlight the urgent need to dedicate considerable effort to preventing and ultimately reversing SBS.

see: https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2014/02/05/257046530/big-fish-stories-getting-littler

quote:

Daniel Pauly, a professor at the University of British Columbia, has a way of describing these acts of creeping amnesia. He calls the condition "shifting baseline syndrome," and while he was talking about marine biologists' failure to see drastic changes in fish sizes over time, it's a bigger, deeper idea. When you're young, you look at the world and think what you see has been that way for a long time. When you're 5, everything feels "normal." When things change in your lifetime, you may regret what has changed, but for your children, born 30 years later into a more diminished world, what they see at 5 becomes their new "normal," and so, over time, "normal" is constantly being redefined to mean "less." And people who don't believe that the past was so different from the present might have what could be called "change blindness blindness."

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

The Oldest Man posted:

The best part about climate change is that it won't end, there won't be a "definitively broken" state because we will be told very loudly that it's under control even as the famines start, and there won't be a new normal within many, many lifetimes.

"We can't (economically/practically) fix what's already done" is a part of the climate change equation that even highly doomer-y people don't like to talk about. Maybe things won't get that bad but, if they do, that's going to be the new steady state until things get worse no matter how much time, money, and effort we want to throw at the problem.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
There's something innate to the human psyche about

a) old people complaining about the past and
b) young people recognizing them as whiners

It's the kind of thing that's very clearly a valuable trait to have that also becomes wildly maladaptive when there's clear evidence of degradation. It turns out that nostalgia is an incredibly toxic trait in all cases except for the one where it's like "when I was a kid we weren't starving to death."

Kal
Jun 3, 2007


I took a piss in the ocean today, doing my part :patriot:

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Jizzny Princess posted:

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7346317248346262827

The delusion is strong.

I don't think that beach will last even 4 years.

just need a hurricane to finish the job once and for all

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Cabbages and Kings posted:

I posted a thread on a maple processing forum looking for advice on a min spec for rebuild of my destroyed sugaring operation, and totally unprompted one of the small number of replies I got was careful to coach things in terms of "do you have an intended use in mind for the structure when ( /if) sugaring ends?". That's a pretty black pilled response from a buncha maple enthusiasts and this leads me to think that people who have their finger in the agritech pot to any significant degree, understand at least the periphery of the monstrous changes unfolding around us.

I myself don't claim to understand more than the periphery; hence I will ski while there is snow to ski on, and boil sap while there is sap to boil.

Yields could fall 90% and we'd still be set for our own supply, but I think if yeilds are ever down 90% it's the last year of any of this poo poo.

Maybe it's all projection from my own internal, but walking around forests lately I have had the thought, "the land is waking up.... pissed off.... because it didn't sleep long enough and it knows it and summer 2024 is gonna absolutely be a wild ride of one catastrophe after another, all dogpiling into the stupidest US election cycle of my life" :allears:

We're living through the "lol.lmao." convergance.

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.
and I fear the age of consequence and I wish that it was over
bring me the cold winds
bring me the deep snow
bring me the winter

https://youtu.be/ieEMEXEuk9w?si=lTKr1G607FrkCpRP

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Cabbages and Kings posted:

I posted a thread on a maple processing forum looking for advice on a min spec for rebuild of my destroyed sugaring operation,

what happened to your old one? i thought you had some cool 1800s burner thingy

Lordshmee
Nov 23, 2007

I hate you, Milkman Dan

gently caress COREY PERRY posted:

gently caress A SCIENCE

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Rectal Death Alert
Apr 2, 2021

if plants want to be weak and demand a specific temperature range before they'll grow they should just evolve. Fish did and look at them, they are thriving.




Hold on i'm getting a call

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Jizzny Princess posted:

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7346317248346262827

The delusion is strong.

I don't think that beach will last even 4 years.

lmao at the guy saying "in the 70s, people said the beach would be all gone by 2000 and it is still here"

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
"It's still here, because we keep rebuilding it. That means they were wrong to say it wouldn't be here."

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Rectal Death Alert posted:

if plants want to be weak and demand a specific temperature range before they'll grow they should just evolve. Fish did and look at them, they are thriving.




Hold on i'm getting a call

Highly evolved fish are destroying the planet and God right as we speak.

What's a highly evolved plant ever done? Live for an ice age or two? Weak.

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022

SixteenShells posted:

"It's still here, because we keep rebuilding it. That means they were wrong to say it wouldn't be here."

it's also clearly not still there, that's what the story is!

Evil_Greven
Feb 20, 2007

Whadda I got to,
whadda I got to do
to wake ya up?

To shake ya up,
to break the structure up!?

Rectal Death Alert posted:

if plants want to be weak and demand a specific temperature range before they'll grow they should just evolve. Fish did and look at them, they are thriving.




Hold on i'm getting a call

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LFbL4-lIbs

i'm sure it's fine

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toggle
Nov 7, 2005

that treasures trashed mate

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