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Justin Fields confirmed to back up Josh Allen next season.
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Dexo posted:No really keep doing the among others. Because add Alex Smith and that's where the list stops. I know Brees turned into a monster in New Orleans but he was still pretty productive and had a pro bowl season in San Diego
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Mar 17, 2024 18:24
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If you want to pad the list you could argue Warren Moon I guess. Although that was actually racism over the idea of a black QB more than some skill switch suddenly flipping 5 years in.
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Mar 17, 2024 18:39
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a neat cape posted:I know Brees turned into a monster in New Orleans but he was still pretty productive and had a pro bowl season in San Diego I'm also not really sure Alex Smith belongs on that list
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Mar 17, 2024 18:54
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With Tomlin and the defense they won't bottom out to get a prized rookie QB, and when contracts and assets required tobl acquire a player are factored in I would much prefer Russ/Just to this year's Carr, Tannehill, Cousins post-injury, Rodgers post-injury, etc who the Steelers could have vied for this off-season and last. A non-zero shot to catch lightning in a bottle if Russ meshes with Arthur and puts together one last '10th-15th best QB in the league' type season, with no long-term commitments. And a year to work with Fields and see if he can refine his decision-making enough to warrant a prove-it deal. It would be a really cool story if Fields can follow a Geno arc on a shorter time frame. Unlikely? Yeah, but still fun to root for.
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Mar 17, 2024 19:17
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https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/1769434006355865865?t=mwK0xNhhFvRopThPCfa7-A&s=19 Pro bowler, baby!
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Mar 17, 2024 20:03
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Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups.
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Docjowles posted:If you want to pad the list you could argue Warren Moon I guess. Although that was actually racism over the idea of a black QB more than some skill switch suddenly flipping 5 years in. Yeah, Moon was clearly good and while he had a little transition time coming back from the NFL, plus Houston being bad at that point, he then was outstanding for another decade plus. You could kinda sorta put Steve Young in there, as he went to the USFL first, then had two awful seasons with the holy poo poo terribad mid-80s Bucs, before going to San Francisco and being labeled as an athletic run first guy backing up peak Montana for a while (Including Young having a chance to win the starting role in ‘88 but struggling). He doesn’t become the starter until his 5th season with the 49ers in 1990 when Montana was hurt, and then beginning the following year quickly rattled off several MVPs and whatnot. Another name I can think of that might fit the list is Phil Simms, whose first three seasons were mostly mediocre, often bad, and then followed by two seasons missed almost entirely to injury. It wasn’t until his 6th year that he finally started to really play well, and still had some more ups and downs but would be generally a good starter for the next decade. Either way, for all those guys who struggled heavily early on, there’s a lot of others who were bad for three seasons and then continued to be rear end but hung around for reasons being rear end for years onward.
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Dexo posted:No really keep doing the among others. Because add Alex Smith and that's where the list stops. I'm not just talking about franchise QBs I'm talking about anyone who made great improvements years later. So that includes Geno Smith. He was a punchline of a player nobody thought we'd ever see in any form again and then reemerged. Vinny Testaverde, Kyle Orton, Jeff George, I might even include someone like Tommy Maddox. Even if he's not a franchise QB it doesn't mean Fields might not have some great years in him in a better organization.
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Mar 17, 2024 20:16
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. No one wants to trade for that lovely QB.
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Mar 17, 2024 20:18
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Kawalimus posted:I'm not just talking about franchise QBs I'm talking about anyone who made great improvements years later. So that includes Geno Smith. He was a punchline of a player nobody thought we'd ever see in any form again and then reemerged. Vinny Testaverde, Kyle Orton, Jeff George, I might even include someone like Tommy Maddox. Tommy Maddox, the only QB ever to be MVP of XFL 1.0 
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Mar 17, 2024 20:19
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. Zach Wilson is not better than Tyler Huntley
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Mar 17, 2024 20:19
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. I disagree.
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Mar 17, 2024 20:23
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. He's on an expensive first round contract.
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Mar 17, 2024 20:25
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. My brother this is not the way
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Mar 17, 2024 20:30
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Wow noone has mentioned the legend Doug Flutie
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Mar 17, 2024 20:39
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. there are no nfl gms in this thread
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Mar 17, 2024 20:40
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Dexo posted:No really keep doing the among others. Because add Alex Smith and that's where the list stops. Roger Staughbach Terry Bradshaw
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Mar 17, 2024 20:53
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Pats sign a guy. https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1769455928342938008?s=46
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Mar 17, 2024 21:13
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I'm sure the adequately producing guy opposite Justin Jefferson will do just fine in New England.
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Mar 17, 2024 21:26
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1769466182678073768?t=4LCyRC5trGOMh9q0WqZVSQ&s=19 Wonder who else tried. Philly maybe?
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Mar 17, 2024 22:09
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https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1769367394852471254
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Mar 17, 2024 22:11
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Kalli posted:I'm sure the adequately producing guy opposite Justin Jefferson will do just fine in New England. Another MN -> NE WR, let's see how this one does.
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Mar 17, 2024 22:35
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. drat, sounds like the jets should keep him and sign him to an extension then
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Mar 17, 2024 23:45
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*Nods Saleh-ishly*
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Kalli posted:I'm sure the adequately producing guy opposite Justin Jefferson will do just fine in New England. At least he has a pulse and is an NFL calibre player. More than you can say for Juju or Parker.
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lol mcmagic is free-agent flowcharting, except it’s out of panic that the Jets aren’t trading Zach Wilson
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1769466182678073768?t=4LCyRC5trGOMh9q0WqZVSQ&s=19 i'm also curious if some of those teams got shut down before the steelers traded for russ maybe he really wants to spend a year behind russ or something, but if his focus was opportunity to start seems like there are a couple of teams that could offer similar opportunity
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stuker posted:i'm also curious if some of those teams got shut down before the steelers traded for russ Other teams that were interested, like the Eagles, already have an established starter. The Bears wanted to do right by Justin because they are trading him because they have the first overall pick and the smart thing to do is go with a rookie QB to reset the contract timer, not because they hate Fields. if they only had 9th overall (if they didnt have first overall from the Panthers) Fields would not have been traded. Fields chose the Steelers, probably because Russ is in his mid thirties, takes a lot of sacks, and is on a 1 year contract so if anything happens to Russ and he gets to play and does well, he stands a chance of signing a longer contract to stay in Pittsburgh. If he went to the Eagles he would be less likely to get playing time then would be definitely be looking for a new team after the season because there is zero chance the Eagles are moving on from Hurts. Going to Pittsburgh was literally the best available option to see playing time and have a chance to stick around for more than one year.
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Mar 18, 2024 04:19
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mcmagic posted:Zach Wilson is better than a lot of these QBs teams are signing as backups. This guy is a dumb dumb
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Mar 18, 2024 04:19
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I got a lot of flak in ‘22 and ‘23 for saying Fields sucked. I feel a little vindicated.
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Mar 18, 2024 04:48
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Great job proud of u
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Real jf1 stans know he’ll be the steeler starter season after next 🤝🤝🤝
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$25mil for a starter in that market who might pan out but you have a mid first because you went 9-8 again and oh shoot if we tank and tomlin retires after a great career and then JF1 is cut then that sounds right to me
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Real jf1 stans know he’ll be the steeler starter season after next 🤝🤝🤝 Starting RB
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The only QB to take more sacks than Russ is Justin Fields. https://twitter.com/fball_insights/status/1769511516984762393?s=46 Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:The only QB to take more sacks than Russ is Justin Fields. Fields had one fewer over the past two seasons according to that post. Fields also fits the trendline better while Russ seems like the sacks affect his epa more.
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I kinda wish Fields had gone to KC to see what Reid could do to straighten him out, looked good in some garbage time or late December rest starts, and reset his market. Maybe they didn’t want to part with any picks though
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They are short on picks so definitely not spending any for a one year rental.
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If some team can just drill it into Justin's head to throw the ball when he sees what he sees and not second guess or worry about throwing a pick. Not defending Getsy, because Getsy is rear end. But watching Justin Fields tape is loving obnoxious, I can only imagine what being his OC is like. because unlike Mitch, Justin can actually read an NFL defense. Justin's problem, is just that he is looking at the right spot, it feels like his body knows he should throw it, and yet he just doesn't loving throw it and then his Line expecting a throw in that timeframe is compromised, or he just scrambles from a clean pocket and then is either sacked, or does some of the most insanely athletic and amazing poo poo you will ever see on a football field, to get the same outcome he would have got if he just threw the goddamn dig or out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I63MBuRG83c It's this first play, all over his tape You gotta loving throw that. You know you don't have enough blockers. He even hitches and starts to bring the ball up, but then just decides not to loving throw the ball for whatever reason. If you can get him over whatever that mental block he has where he just doesn't throw the loving ball at the open receiver he is looking at, and not have to hesitate to make sure everything is perfect, which leads to closed windows. I think you can have a pretty decent QB. Because his eyes are like almost always in the right spot, he just always loving hesitates when playing within structure for some loving reason. Dexo fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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