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edogawa rando posted:As a Kiwi, I can only humbly apologise for what Park Road Post has done. I loving hate Peter Jackson too. I feel like some of these guys, they see what the tools can do but they don’t understand what they can’t do, if that makes sense. A grainy film presentation is always going to look better than a DNR’d to hell and back version.
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Mine turned up from Amazon on the 13th, but that was after a solid week of e-mails from them with "updated delivery" dates.
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That leather shirt Gorman is wearing looks pretty uncomfortable. :P
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Steen71 posted:That leather shirt Gorman is wearing looks pretty uncomfortable. :P Man that is nuts. There's a lot I like about this version, but then I see stuff like that and it brings me way down.
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It looks like that fake-rear end looking shite AI art.
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Cemetry Gator posted:I feel like some of these guys, they see what the tools can do but they don’t understand what they can’t do, if that makes sense. A grainy film presentation is always going to look better than a DNR’d to hell and back version. I think yeah as the tech developed they just got obsessed with it, and it proved commercially popular. They Shall Not Grow Old made $18 million in the U.S and the biggest documentary for a Fathom event. I remember seeing it in fairly full theater (and being amazed then). Same with Get Back which also won lots of awards to reinforce this as a good plan.
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Yay, the T2 UHD isn’t the worst UHD anymore
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Steen71 posted:That leather shirt Gorman is wearing looks pretty uncomfortable. :P Honest question; how does stuff like this end up happening? Are they just running scans through an AI upscale and not checking the results?
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Honest question; how does stuff like this end up happening? Are they just running scans through an AI upscale and not checking the results? AI for sure but I do think people are checking the work. It’s just that people have developed some kind of actual brain rot where they genuinely think these upscales look good. Which is even worse!
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PinkoBastard posted:AI for sure but I do think people are checking the work. It’s just that people have developed some kind of actual brain rot where they genuinely think these upscales look good. Which is even worse! I hate this garbage future
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That looks very bad. I watched the 4K Event Horizon last night and thought it looked pretty great, love that movie a lot but haven't seen a while so it was a gut punch for Funky poo poo to play over the credits  .
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So Aliens, True Lies, and Abyss 4K Blu are all just as bad as the streaming versions then, correct? I remember when the streaming versions came out and were terrible, there was a ton of “this is just the streaming version, wait for the disc” talk that, to me, felt like a huge dose of copium. I guess I was right
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OldSenileGuy posted:So Aliens, True Lies, and Abyss 4K Blu are all just as bad as the streaming versions then, correct? I'll have The Abyss in my hands sometime this week and give an honest opinion. I'd imagine the heavy compression and filtering necessary for digital downloads don't do any favors. One thing I've noticed when I'm doing Handbrake backups of titles is that it's easy for an excellent-looking Blu-ray with a robust encode turning into something a bit mushy. As expected when you turn a 30-40 GB file into 5-10 GB.
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OldSenileGuy posted:So Aliens, True Lies, and Abyss 4K Blu are all just as bad as the streaming versions then, correct? Pretty much. True Lies is the worst looking one, with Aliens second. Abyss seems to be least affected by the DNR/AI shenanigans.
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PinkoBastard posted:AI for sure but I do think people are checking the work. It’s just that people have developed some kind of actual brain rot where they genuinely think these upscales look good. Which is even worse! You know the kind of people who make upscaled videos for Youtube, and make the framerate 60fps because they think everything should look smooth I'm just saying. There are real world consequences to a generation of letting people have motion smoothing on their HDTVs. Now they're making creative decisions for us
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pwn posted:You know the kind of people who make upscaled videos for Youtube, and make the framerate 60fps because they think everything should look smooth It’s like the people who genuinely think AI drawings look good. They want everything to be smoother. Smoother and smoother, forever.
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pwn posted:You know the kind of people who make upscaled videos for Youtube, and make the framerate 60fps because they think everything should look smooth Oh yeah 100%. At this point people think the picture look off without the smoothing. Brain rot!
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Yeah watching aliens right now. I'm far from an expert on this stuff (even just among this thread) but it's not as bad as I expected. So much looks great, but Jesus any person in motion and you can almost see the smudge tool following people's movements. Like scenes of Ripley motionless in the beginning, you can see great detail in her face. But the second she turns her head is all a flat surface. Just wild. It'll do for me, but if I hear even a rumor of actual work being done on this movie I'm ditching this copy fast.
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Now that I’ve seen Aliens in motion it really does have that look of those YouTube videos where someone ads interpolated AI frames to make scenes “better” by being at 60 FPS. Any motion of a character and it feels like there’s some weird slight uncanny valley effect going on, like they’re partly covered up suddenly by a 3D model of themselves because suddenly they lose texture definition
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I hate to use possibly the most annoying character in the movie as an example, but: Sorry imgur seems to be not working for me atm. But this to me, looks pretty decent. But the second he turns his head, you'd swear he didn't have any pores. It's wild.
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Kingtheninja posted:I hate to use possibly the most annoying character in the movie as an example, but:
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James Cameron is your dad who has you setup his TV for movies but the second you finish he sets all the sharpening filters to max and changes the picture to the “vivid” setting
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PinkoBastard posted:Oh yeah 100%. At this point people think the picture look off without the smoothing. Brain rot! Before I broke up with a serious girlfriend, I turned all that poo poo off on her TV. I did this at her request (the TV stuff, not the breaking up) I may have broken her heart, but at least her TV wasn’t anymore.
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Cool: they have a vhs nook where you can watch old tapes in the new cafe next to the vista theater Not cool: you can’t bring your own vhs tapes to watch.
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Cemetry Gator posted:Before I broke up with a serious girlfriend, I turned all that poo poo off on her TV. I did this at her request (the TV stuff, not the breaking up) the right and honourable thing to do 
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ruddiger posted:Cool: they have a vhs nook where you can watch old tapes in the new cafe next to the vista theater How do they stop you? Is there a clerk who handles the tapes for you or something?
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I went to a fancy new age wine bar this afternoon and in the back they had a tv with a vhs of Doom Asylum and that seemed right.
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Got around to watching my Darkman steelbook after not having seen it in probably 10-15 years. Great looking movie even with the obvious greenscreening. They don't make films like this anymore. "I'm learning to live with a lot of things" is an incredible line.
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Having never watched Darkman and being a huge dweeb growing up, this is the first thing that pops to mind whenever someone brings it up (back cover of Cracked #260, January 1991 A scan of the original art from Heritage Auctions, it originally was captioned, "Who is Dorkman?" I do love Raimi so I will have to see it eventually.
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Mr E posted:Got around to watching my Darkman steelbook after not having seen it in probably 10-15 years. Great looking movie even with the obvious greenscreening. They don't make films like this anymore. "I'm learning to live with a lot of things" is an incredible line. I watched the movie for the first time a year or two and that is the same line that completely took me out. It's such a brilliant mix of superhero and Universal horror.
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Watched the new release of 'The Abyss' last night. It's a very mixed bag. What's really jarring with these heavily DNR'ed 4K releases for me at least is even when the tech is working perfectly and you're seeing something that looks like it was shot this year with a top of the line digital process, the audio is still that of an older movie. It's especially noticeable in dialogue, your brain is seeing pristine and clean images of people talking but they sound like, well, 1980's recordings. Everything underwater and within the rig looks great, really really great actually. The big disaster action sequences are awesome. It all kind of falls apart for the last 30 minutes though when you've got a lot of matte painting, model and composite shots that should never be hit with insane levels of upscaling and DNR. Distractingly bad, sub-youtuber AI level poo poo.
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https://x.com/ultrahdbluray/status/1769528455991873852?s=46 https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1bg4kcv/reality_of_the_james_cameron_4ks_review/ So basically the new disc is just the old disc but upscaled with HDR thrown over it.
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That is nutrageous. Not a Darkman fan, but I do enjoy Crimewave! For weird Raimi/Coen stuff. And Lunatics: A Love Story for Ted Raimi. Speaking of the Coens, Ethan's Drive-Away Dolls is really good, underrated stuff.
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Speaking of poorly done 4Ks, what’s the best version currently of A Clockwork Orange? Last I checked there were some versions that had real bad audio problems?
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https://twitter.com/dawnofthediscs/status/1769756603547308399?t=1v-eBfVlTIQ2LPz0aakECw&s=19 DON'T PUT METAL IN THE SCIENCE OVEN
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