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Sydin posted:Hi I'll take two-time Cy winner Blake Snell for 2/60 with an opt-out in the middle that he'll 100% exercise unless his arm spontaneously combusts for my team please and thank you.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:LOL that deal has almost 0 downside for the Astros and they still don't want to do it The downside for the Astros is the Hader deal already cost them a couple of picks and this would cost them a couple more and their farm system is already pretty barren That said, if they're supposedly all in on the season and letting Bregman and Tucker walk after the season anyway which appears to be what's happening then might as well I dunno I'm not particularly high on Snell but at that price? e: If they can make the playoffs with Verlander, Garcia and McCullers healthy to go along with Framber, Javier and Brown then theoretically they don't need Snell even if the pitching is really thin to start the season. On the other hand Framber and Javier both looked completely washed for the second half of last season e2: also mccullers might not even be good anymore since he's going to focus on his fastball at the expense of his curveball to try to stay healthy and his fastball is his most hittable pitch Intruder fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 02:44
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Padres game vs the KBO's LG Twins starts in a couple minutes and is free to watch on MLB.tv
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Mar 18, 2024 03:55
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If Snell is really willing to take 2 years $60M then he should be signed yesterday by a bunch of teams, the more I think about it the more insanely team friendly that is
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Mar 18, 2024 04:02
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I just assumed the sticking point for teams signing Snell was he wanted a longer deal. 2/60 is a no brainer for any team competing, which makes me suspicious if that is real.
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Any recommendations for visiting Globe Life in Arlington, where to sit, what to eat, any cool stuff to check out? Looking at views it feels like the 100 sections are pretty far away.
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bawfuls posted:If Snell is really willing to take 2 years $60M then he should be signed yesterday by a bunch of teams, the more I think about it the more insanely team friendly that is Ya its absoultely a bananas slam dunk deal for every team, hell even teams that are bad should do that maybe just to trade him halfway through the year and get atop 100 prospect or two
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Mar 18, 2024 04:19
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Collusion is a hell of a drug.
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Mar 18, 2024 04:26
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e: nvm my thought process on that was a mess
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Mar 18, 2024 04:43
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more falafel please posted:Any recommendations for visiting Globe Life in Arlington, where to sit, what to eat, any cool stuff to check out? Looking at views it feels like the 100 sections are pretty far away. Its not a gigantic ballpark, so the 100 sections still should be pretty nice depending on what you are used to. Hurtado's BBQ is probably the best place for real food inside, and here's last year's article on gimmick food: https://dallas.eater.com/23022139/dallas-globe-life-field-rangers-baseball-concession-stand-food The ballpark is pretty nice on the inside, but the exterior is a bit of a let down. I loved the old ballpark, but air conditioning is non-negotiable for probably 90% of the season.
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Orlando Arcia took 96 on the wrist today, not the hardest guy to replace but it's not great behind him at the moment. X-rays negative so hopefully not a big problem.
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I had almost forgotten about him, but apparently Kyle Stowers homered in 3 straight at bats yesterday. 7 HRs in 37 ABs. Will be amusing if he adds to the O’s challenge of how to play all the young guys.
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Mar 18, 2024 13:35
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Popete posted:I just assumed the sticking point for teams signing Snell was he wanted a longer deal. 2/60 is a no brainer for any team competing, which makes me suspicious if that is real. I mean, the source is Bob. Snell’s asking price could just as easily be 20 years for $Texas, we have no clue.
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Mar 18, 2024 14:00
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https://twitter.com/matthewkawahara/status/1769723844212748574 See you at the ASB.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Collusion is a hell of a drug. It's not collusion, it's the salary cap.
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Mar 18, 2024 15:12
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"Salary cap"
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Well if I were an owner being threatened with cock and ball torture for spending too much on players, I'd think of it as a cap as well
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zoux posted:Well if I were an owner being threatened with cock and ball torture for spending too much on players, I'd think of it as a cap as well You... you think owners are threatening their high spending brethren with making them wear the official uniform pants of Major League Baseball?? I mean, I know they're billionaires and capable of great monstrosity, but...
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Nodoze posted:"Salary cap" It's literally a salary cap. It's kinda understandable that the Yankees don't want to spend 62 million a year on Blake Snell.
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Mar 18, 2024 16:17
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It's purpose is to function as a salary cap and it's structure is not all that different from other salary caps with the escalating tax penalties for going over and repeat offenders. The owners largely treat it as a cap, seems appropriate to call it a cap.
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Mar 18, 2024 16:21
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What's the "real" value of Blake Snell? He's an average pitcher most years and has peak years where he's a Cy Young winner. The market for any competent arm seems really high. Would Snell sign for 4 years? I know length of contract has been a sticking point for him.
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Mar 18, 2024 16:29
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The top tier of the CBT is something like a 110% tax on every dollar spent, IIRC I was reading that if the Yankees signed Snell to a $30M deal right now it would actually cost them $61M per year, which, yeah I get why that's a bit less palatable to ownership. It's easily the worst thing the MLBPA allowed the owners to sneak into and calcify into the CBA over the last couple decades. That it now also affects your first round pick is insane as well.
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Forrest on Fire posted:What's the "real" value of Blake Snell? He's an average pitcher most years and has peak years where he's a Cy Young winner. The market for any competent arm seems really high. Would Snell sign for 4 years? I know length of contract has been a sticking point for him. As a Boras client what Boras is presumably trying to get on Snell's behalf is to have his cake and eat it too: a gigantic 10+ year contract that also has several different opt-outs, so it can be short-term if he's healthy and he can still get megapaid if his arm falls off. The contract Bellinger ended up taking is risky but not terrible for a position player, but it's pretty terrible for a pitcher since their arms implode with such frequency.
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Forrest on Fire posted:What's the "real" value of Blake Snell? He's an average pitcher most years and has peak years where he's a Cy Young winner. The market for any competent arm seems really high. Would Snell sign for 4 years? I know length of contract has been a sticking point for him. He's better than average even in his non CY years. Legit TOR guy. But the criticism that he doesn't give you deep outings seems to be real at least
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All of Bellinger, Snell, and Montgomery getting basically no interest whatsoever in any kind of long term contract is just straight up collusion though. There is 1000% an understanding among the owners that they are not going to lay out huge deals for anyone short of the Ohtani level anymore. Soto will still get megapaid next year. Bellinger won't, even if he repeats 2023.
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Mar 18, 2024 16:58
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https://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/1769758085394891066 The Yankees are lying about Judge's injury.
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Mar 18, 2024 17:29
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We need to hurry up and get to cybernetic implant baseball
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Snell is obviously flawed but I subscribe to the "he's better than what you got at the back of your rotation" school of thought. He'd be an improvement for probably any rotation with the proven upside of being a top rotation guy. Its just a question of whether a team thinks he's worth the asking price. I don't really see this stuff as collusion when (a) plenty of free agents signed big deals or deals beyond what people thought they'd get and (b) the guys not getting a deal all have the same agent with the same demands. I guess it could be collusion against Boras but a bunch of his guys have signed too. Ultimately it just seems like Boras' style and methods playing out for better or worse.
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Boras clearly bungled these contracts and I hope it hurts his business because I don't like him.
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mcmagic posted:Boras clearly bungled these contracts and I hope it hurts his business because I don't like him. MLB owner account spotted
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:We need to hurry up and get to cybernetic implant baseball Base Wars IRL
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Sydin posted:MLB owner account spotted It's actually fine to hate both Scott Boras who is bad at his job, and also MLB owners.
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Intruder posted:He's better than average even in his non CY years. Legit TOR guy. But the criticism that he doesn't give you deep outings seems to be real at least is he? There are several in between years here where he's definitely not a TOR guy   Just look at his three years in San Diego: below-average starter, solid mid-rotation starter, league-leading Cy Young winner. In '17 and '19 he was technically above average on a rate basis (just barely) but below average from a WAR perspective because of his lack of volume. He's one of the highest variance pitchers in the game year to year. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 17:52
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To me it's pretty clear that the owners used the uncertainties regarding local TV deals to reduce FA spending. The Dodgers were one of the few exceptions because their TV situation is different.
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Blake Snell has 2 Cys yet I don't think he's worth even 2/60
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mcmagic posted:It's actually fine to hate both Scott Boras who is bad at his job, and also MLB owners. He's been exceptional at his job for years, this being the first real exception, and only now seemingly at the expense of the owners actively colluding against signing his guys. I honestly have no idea what you're on about or why you'd dislike the guy.
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Players know what they're getting into when they hire Boras. The Boras 4 all have their flaws and they hired an agent who specifically ignores them. If Snell wanted 6 years, $120 million, he should've hired a different agent.
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mcmagic posted:It's not collusion, it's the salary cap. What do you think the luxury tax is, mcmagic, if not codified collusion?
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Mar 18, 2024 17:57
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The thing keeping Snell from having already signed a big deal is he is wildly inconsistent. The range of outcomes on any given game or season from him is huge
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Sydin posted:He's been exceptional at his job for years, this being the first real exception, and only now seemingly at the expense of the owners actively colluding against signing his guys. I honestly have no idea what you're on about or why you'd dislike the guy.
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