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Jeremor posted:Maybe I'm just a loving idiot, what is the advantage of the smg being one handed? Can you shoot it while sprinting or something? I'd test it out if I wasn't at work handy when you need to carry fifty hard drives back and forth across space scotland
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God, the slow effect caused by Hunters is brutal. One Hunter whipping me and slowing me causes me to die more than anything else.
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deep dish peat moss posted:I learned something incredibly important tonight after switching away from the light stealth armor for the first time ever: The stealth armor doesn't just decrease the range that enemies can detect you at, but it decreases the range that they can actively track you at. Being in different armor is the first time I've realized what other people have talked about where they have trouble running away from enemies. With the light stealth armor you just jog for a bit and the enemies forget about you and stop chasing, but using the light grenade range armor they will chase for loving ever. Was running heavy for a while and switching from that to the scout armor was a game changer. Heavy can't even loving outrun hulks. I was terrified of running into flame hulks in heavy armor even with the stamina booster.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Yeah. And I'm not exactly accumulating tons of the yellow currency either. I have: I don't think a turret should be like your everyday carry until you get the upgrades IMO. You have the tools to pull just as much weight on high level missions as your friends. Eagle Airstrike Eagle Cluster Walking Barrage Autocannon Eagle Airstrike Eagle Cluster EATs Supply Pack Get Airburst / Walking Barrage at your current level, or grenade launcher if you havent got it yet since it goes great with supply pack. I think you should be targeting eagle 500kg bomb next. I pretty much always bring Eagle Airstrike + Eagle 500kg and my third is wild card but usually railcannon. And I run autocannon or EATs for my carry.
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Crows Turn Off posted:God, the slow effect caused by Hunters is brutal. One Hunter whipping me and slowing me causes me to die more than anything else. Yeah if there's anything that causes my friends to shout out "THIS GAME IS BULLSHIT" it's getting slowed down by hunters.
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I don't think 500kg is worth until you get the final eagle hangar upgrade for +1 bombs.
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EATs are baby's first Charger-hunters. Learn to call them in whenever you approach a group of enemies and pop those big fellas' heads off.
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johnny park posted:You can also use it while holding the ballistic shield, lol lol
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Jack B Nimble posted:Yeah. And I'm not exactly accumulating tons of the yellow currency either. I have: just use whatever you think is fun. don't stress too much about it
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Has anyone else had trouble joining games the last few days? I'm stuck on "searching for active SOS beacon" indefinitely using quickplay no matter what time of day. Also can't join games on the map or have anyone join my games. This is on PC, not internet problems otherwise. I reinstalled, checked firewall, ran as admin, verified files, no luck...
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Spanish Manlove posted:just use whatever you think is fun. don't stress too much about it do NOT use the concussive liberator, it's a dogshit weapon that does no damage and provides no benefit even though it feels loving awesome.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Yeah. And I'm not exactly accumulating tons of the yellow currency either. I have: This is speaking more to your teammates than you, but having played a lot of matches with lowbie friends on my high level account, I don't think it's right to put the onus of addressing heavies on the low level players. I usually tell lowbies to focus on the swarms and mark the heavies for players with mechs/rail cannons. That said, I'd examine exactly how much good your turret is doing for you and maybe drop it in favor of another eagle or orbital. EATS are a very good thing to spam as well, and while headshotting a charger with one is a risky proposition until you're used to it, it's the best I think you can do at that level. EMS sentry, Autocannon, Recoiless Rifle, Eagle Airstrike, Laser Guard Dog, EATs, and Grenade Launcher were all staples of my mid-level gameplay.
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Jack B Nimble posted:TLDR; I'm level 13 playing with higher level friends: What's a versatile loadout consisting of, say, one eagle, one turret, one orbital? So here's your stratagem situation: Eagle: honestly you should consider 2x eagles and no orbitals for a while as your fire support. You get a lot more uptime and you can use them liberally against drops/bug holes while your teammates handle bigger threats and objectives. As for which two it's honestly very flexible. Cluster Bombs put in serious work against big crowds, at the cost of not being able to dent heavy armor. But with a lot of call downs per rearm they really do get a lot of work done on, say, spewer heavy bug missions. Eagle Airstrike Classic is the most versatile: kills structures, heavy armor, small crowds, you name it. Should be a staple in your loadout for a while. Rocket Pods can be a consideration if the rest of your team's loadout is a little light on ways to deal with heavy targets. Napalm is a workhorse for bug missions, drop one on a bug hole after the first wave spawns, and you've basically locked it down for everything smaller than a charger. But don't bother bringing it for bots. Turret: gatling for bugs (replace with autocannon once unlock it) mortar for bots. EMS mortar later on is the superior hard defence mortar (for missions like the Exterminate and TCS Towers) Orbital: honestly don't bother until you get the Laser and the Railcannon. The Precision Strike is fine and if you insist on bringing one it should be this. The 110/380 barrages have a very niche case of being used to destroy bot objectives/outposts from a safe distance but are VASTLY outclassed by the Orbital Laser for this. Airburst is just a Cluster Bomb with 1/10th the uptime.
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The orbital cluster barrage is probably the most newbie friendly strat in the game thanks to its input -> -> ->
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Noobicide posted:Has anyone else had trouble joining games the last few days? I'm stuck on "searching for active SOS beacon" indefinitely using quickplay no matter what time of day. Also can't join games on the map or have anyone join my games. This is on PC, not internet problems otherwise. I reinstalled, checked firewall, ran as admin, verified files, no luck...
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50 hours in and the only strategems I can dial without looking are reinforce and 500kg eagle lmao Edit: Daily reminder to verify the integrity of your game files. I don't know if it actually fixed anything, but I crashed a lot less after replacing 3 corrupted files.
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Spanish Manlove posted:just use whatever you think is fun. don't stress too much about it
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Riatsala posted:50 hours in and the only strategems I can dial without looking are reinforce and 500kg eagle lmao I'm so bad at the 500kg eagle. I feel like I need it to deploy way, way quicker. Yesterday's effect didn't help where it was like a 10s deployment. Excellent for a first strike against a hive/factory/whatever tho
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explosivo posted:Yeah if there's anything that causes my friends to shout out "THIS GAME IS BULLSHIT" it's getting slowed down by hunters. This. Its why I take shield, bugs just slow you too drat much (magnified by the "spawn right next to you" weirdness)
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Airburst has delayed release of 3 explosions which gives it a slightly different use case than eagle cluster. you can throw it on top of a breech or behind you and you know the conga line is gonna get messed up.
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Basic Chunnel posted:What’s crossplay set to? Set to off if it isn’t I tried turning it off and on a few times. Will try keeping it off, thanks
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What was the trick to set up your m&kb binds such that you could sprint with the map open? I forget the particular combination to make that work.
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My friends and I are still only running 4's and starting to do 5's, but against bugs I'm all in with the flamethrower + shield pack plus airstrikes for clearing chaff and chargers since everyone else generally runs with GL and/or AC. Definitely need to be proactive with the flamer and rely on direct damage as well as the burning ground, pretty much spraying until empty and falling back to reload. It feels good to be able to quickly roast a pack of medium-sized bugs or go charger hunting whenever they show up. I like the Punisher and Redeemer (on semi-auto) for cleaning up anything that gets close. If it's just one or two small bugs, I give them a punch in the face. Bile spewers kind of suck since it's almost a suicide pact, but the shield helps. Just burn them first. I find that if you're triggering the maniacal laughter or other unhinged emotes from sustained firing, you're using the flamethrower correctly. Whether this holds up in big boy/girl difficulties I don't know, but it sure is helping us progress.
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Bad Munki posted:What was the trick to set up your m&kb binds such that you could sprint with the map open? I forget the particular combination to make that work.
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I have only burnt myself to death by walking over flames, nothing has lit me on fire even when I'm puffing flame into their ugly faces. I also think flamethrowers seem to have locational damage against chargers, so I roast the poo poo out of their assholes and am usually able to pop their rear end in a top hat and kill them before the tank runs dry. Flamethrower is actually a very economical charger-killer.
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EAT + EMS Mortar + Mech + Orbital Railcannon + Stun Grenade is my go-to loadout for maximum team support. The railcannon can be kind of finicky but is usually really good at deleting exactly one charger or bile titan. Stun grenade is amazing for crowd control on heavies and breaches but you definitely need a team that is cohesive enough that you can get coverage on stuff like killing spewers and closing spawns. Mech is really good at being a front line power spike but I think it’s better as team support. Chilling with other divers and focusing priority targets really let’s you conserve ammo compared to just parking it in front of a breach and holding right mouse until everything is dead.
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jokes posted:I have only burnt myself to death by walking over flames, nothing has lit me on fire even when I'm puffing flame into their ugly faces. I also think flamethrowers seem to have locational damage against chargers, so I roast the poo poo out of their assholes and am usually able to pop their rear end in a top hat and kill them before the tank runs dry. Flamethrower is actually a very economical charger-killer.
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Black Noise posted:The fall damage never kills them but when you accidentally resupply jump your health bar better be full. Their aim also doesnt seem to be affected by stagger. Ive staggered a rocket bot 5 feet away, watched its rocket launcher point sideways while firing, and had a missile hit me right in the face.
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Lamquin posted:I need someone to tell me I'm not the only dumbass trying to left-click the expanded minimap to mark a location while holding a grenade/loaded Airstrike stratagem in the hand, which results in me throwing the stratagem and killing my team. This is the Helldiver equivalent of texting while driving and you deserve what you get.
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I've thrown impact grenades a lot because I let go of the stratagem button too early, causing my dude to switch to grenade (left on the D pad) and just yeet an impact grenade at my own feet
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I wish I loved anything as much as randos love 120/380mm barrages, jfc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pTCxSWDXCY
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Eediot Jedi posted:I'm pretty sure anyone saying the plasma punisher is decent is outright trolling at this point, much like penetrator fans. I legit love the Plasma Punisher, it does decent damage, staggers everything in it blast radius, let’s you shoot enemies from behind cover, work especially well against heavy enemies which in turn lets me bring support weapons I normally ignore, like the stalward and flamethrower. Now that’s not to say it doesn’t have some big shortfall, the mag size just plain suck, it has a hard with dealing with hunters and jetpack equipped bots, and has a very steep learning curve. With that said, I think the advantages out weigh the disadvantages, and I’m going to continue using while having a blast doing so.
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Jerkface posted:Airburst has delayed release of 3 explosions which gives it a slightly different use case than eagle cluster. you can throw it on top of a breech or behind you and you know the conga line is gonna get messed up. It's not exactly a major issue with the clusters but it is something to keep in mind, especially if you're dropping it on a patrol for example, that you may need to do a little cleanup afterwards, while the airburst, so long as you actually catch everyone in the radius, you're pretty safe to just leave. *I actually once managed to survive a cluster a friend threw too close to me where I got caught at the very edge of the radius and the bomblets ended up dropping with a perfect safe zone right where I was, and it was the most miraculous thing I've ever seen
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Lamquin posted:I need someone to tell me I'm not the only dumbass trying to left-click the expanded minimap to mark a location while holding a grenade/loaded Airstrike stratagem in the hand, which results in me throwing the stratagem and killing my team. This but when I'm in the mech
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i have tried the flamethrower again and again, and all of my friends gave it a spin when that kill 100 enemies with the flamethrower personal order popped a little bit ago i just can not get that weapon to work and neither can anyone i know lol. against bots you never want to use it because you're fighting at range, and against terminids trying to use it mostly seems like a great way to get buried under a pile of bugs that briefly had fire particle effects coming off their limbs (seriously why the hell does the "on fire" status effect do nothing to anyone except helldivers, who die in half a second to it). anything above a hunter basically doesn't give a poo poo and even hunters just sort of leap at you before you can kill them and then you either swap to breaker or get eaten (may as well have just started with the breaker!). i've tried blazing fresh bug breaches and that has exclusively gotten me owned by bugs not dying before burying me, i've tried using it against chargers and found that if i'm in a situation where i can afford to stand/very slowly walk near a charger for 6+ seconds i'm in a situation where i could have just shot it in the butt with a grenade launcher/autocannon/EAT/RR/railgun for very similar results, i've tried flaming in bursts and found that whatever weapon i've been switching to (breaker) while running probably could have done the job better, i just do not understand how people are saying this thing is good. is there like, extended gameplay footage of someone using it effectively on a high difficulty mission so i can reverse engineer the secret to making it not awful in actual combat scenarios that aren't "you vs a charger in an otherwise empty field" ninjewtsu fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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The two bugs I would like to see fixed are the secondary not working and suddenly holding grenades for some reason. Also whatever spawning fuckery allows for 4 introductory Bile Titans on Extreme and only 1 on Suicide for the entire match.
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Piell posted:This but when I'm in the mech The mech firing when you're trying to mark the map is bullshit, your normal weapons don't do that the mech shouldn't either. Yeah I've killed myself this way, all the mech does is kill me faster.
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Back Hack posted:I legit love the Plasma Punisher, it does decent damage, staggers everything in it blast radius, let’s you shoot enemies from behind cover, work especially well against heavy enemies which in turn lets me bring support weapons I normally ignore, like the stalward and flamethrower. Now that’s not to say it doesn’t have some big shortfall, the mag size just plain suck, it has a hard with dealing with hunters and jetpack equipped bots, and has a very steep learning curve. With that said, I think the advantages out weigh the disadvantages, and I’m going to continue using while having a blast doing so. I'm really loving it vs the Bots. Not sure where the hate is coming from. It can shred an entire patrol in a magazine - and does VICIOUS NASTY THINGS to the underside of dropships if you're at a resonable angle. I particularly love that it just ends striders immediately, no fuss. Devastators can maybe tank a few shots too many but they're big jerks in any case. Vs bugs it's a different story, especially with hunters constantly being in your face where you can and will end yourself repeatedly. I still main the fire shotgun vs bugs, especially now that the DOT is even stronger.
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This thread has opened my eyes to the EAT17. Thank you. Bless democracy.
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