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Monica Bellucci posted:The British had a commando called Christopher Lee and his war record is sealed until 2030 minimum. I hope i'm alive to read it. Because that will be a hell of a story they ruin with a movie.
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Film the wartime autobiography of Spike Milligan you cowards.
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I think the finale did a lot to salvage the show, it's certainly the weakest of the trilogy but it also did a lot of things right, just as The Pacific was superior to Band of Brothers in many ways. It's not a show I am going to re-watch for the story, but all the air missions were superb.
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Stegosnaurlax posted:I hope i'm alive to read it. Because that will be a hell of a story they ruin with a movie. There is a detail that I think the commandos discovered while training that the standard issue German helmet, if it fit properly, meant the edge at the back would, if the head was jerked back hard, slip between two vertebrae and snip the spinal cord.
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I've cringed every time I saw the loving "Bucky hugging a flagpole" bit in the intro and now that I've actually seen it in the story was exactly as hollow and overwrought as I'd feared. Liberating a POW camp should've been such an easy emotional slam dunk and yet I've felt basically nothing. 
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twistedmentat posted:An enemy at the gates based on the book would be great. There's way more going on besides the sniper duel and also maybe set some ideas about the way the soviets fought the war straight? Yeah Italian campaign movies dried up in by the 60s . You’d think they’d have staying power due to the Italian Americans but I guess since Italy was a bloody stalemate until VE Day, it doesn’t lend itself to the narratives they want to present.
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So I get why the tuskeegee airman was able to identify an incoming P51 by the sound of its engine but don't the Mustangs share the same Merlin engine with dozens of different British aircraft?
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Arc Hammer posted:So I get why the tuskeegee airman was able to identify an incoming P51 by the sound of its engine but don't the Mustangs share the same Merlin engine with dozens of different British aircraft? D model Mustangs also made a distinct whistling noise, supposedly because of airflow over the gun ports.
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Yeah 60 series Merlins, pretty much the same thing as in the Spitfire IX and XVI so the engine note is very similar, the P-51 does have a really distinctive whistle though caused by the muzzles on the innermost machine guns not protruding out through the gun ports on the wings. This video isn't the best example because the Spitfire has a type e wing with 2 .50 cals causing the same effect but the whistle is a lot more noticeable on the P-51, especially in real life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhiNBVPdH5k
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Well that would sound terrifying coming in on a strafing run.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Hr7W_B4oc More observations by WWII US Bombers youtube channel on Episode 7.
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Hr7W_B4oc That guys voice makes me want to shove him in a locker
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Flikken posted:That guys voice makes me want to shove him in a locker Post+AV combo.
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twistedmentat posted:An enemy at the gates based on the book would be great. There's way more going on besides the sniper duel and also maybe set some ideas about the way the soviets fought the war straight? Just do the Sniper Elite thing of making the protagonist be an american OSS agent planted into the eastern front for reasons. But I guess that would be fictionalizing accounts too much for a Playtone/Amblin thing. My bet would probably be on the italian campaign too, if we're lucky enough to get a fourth series. That or boat stuff.
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Saving Private Ryan handled Army Rangers, BOB is Paratroopers, Pacific is the Marine Corps, MOA is the Airforce. That leaves tankers in the armor divisions, and I could see a story following the 1st Armored Division from Tunisia to Italy. You could even name the show "Old Ironsides" after the division's nickname.
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Flikken posted:That guys voice makes me want to shove him in a locker Yeah, he's got good scripts but that's a perfect example of YouTuber voice. Closed captioning works though.
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Amblin/Hanks/Spielberg have gone out of their way in every show to make non-American troops look bad/uppity/ungracious in some way. While I would love a good eastern front series, I want these folks as far away from it as possible.
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Arc Hammer posted:Saving Private Ryan handled Army Rangers, BOB is Paratroopers, Pacific is the Marine Corps, MOA is the Airforce. That leaves tankers in the armor divisions, and I could see a story following the 1st Armored Division from Tunisia to Italy. Fury did tanks recently and there was that Tom Hanks show about destroyer escorts also on Apple TV
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I swear if you spend enough time at airshows or watching videos with great audio quality, you can hear some slight difference between the Spitfire Merlin and Mustang Merlin. Perhaps something to do with the exhausts. Or maybe it’s just my imagination. Of course, with them knowing their general location, I suppose they likely wouldn’t have expected any Spitfires to be there.
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Oh, and the B-17s in the Berlin raid were dropping 100-lb bombs. 30 incendiary, 10 general purpose.
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MrMojok posted:I swear if you spend enough time at airshows or watching videos with great audio quality, you can hear some slight difference between the Spitfire Merlin and Mustang Merlin. It's the propeller.
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I would love a tank show. Two episodes of tank battles, then six episodes of following random people who aren't doing anything related to the show. Maybe 20 minutes on a guy who installs the ball bearings.
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Entire episode about the dude who is an officer working at the tank repair depot, who becomes convinced that Shermans are FLAMING DEATHTRAPS
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skooma512 posted:Fury did tanks recently and there was that Tom Fury came out ten years ago and ended with an insane fight scene where one disabled tank defeats an entire infantry column. I like the movie but it's definitely doing its own thing.
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Just finished this show in one go, or there abouts. A real drop in quality for eps 7-8, but it was fine, I guess. Not an instant rewatch like BoB or the Pacific, but the air combat was pretty intense and fast and I’d probably be filling the spew bags with poo poo, in all honesty. I did enjoy the first 5 episodes, but the highs were high and the lows were pretty loving low. Why was Crosby the narrator? What happened to Meatball? And lmao talking up the P-51s, then a Tuskegee Airman talking about wanting more action, but then getting shot down quick smart lol.. But yeah, so much potential. Where was Bruce McKenna?? At least Tim Van Patten directed the last episode. And the theme was ok, not that catchy. I do find myself humming the pacific one on occasion though. But yeah time for a BoB and pacific rewatch 
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Carentan is another great episode for Band of Brothers, with the taking of the titular town and the later engagement with the Germans planning a counterattack both incredibly compelling to watch. I also love Marc Warren's portrayal of Blithe, a guy seemingly moving through water, still all there but also detached from reality by the sheer enormity of emotions/terror/confusion and basically moving and talking and reacting almost by muscle memory as his mind tries to reconcile everything. But I just can't get over the fact that even today the home media releases retain the final section declaring that Blithe died from his wounds in 1948, despite the fact he not only lived, but remained in active military service his entire life, served in Korea as a paratrooper and won medals, and lived till 1967! I can understand why the initial release got it wrong, when Ambrose wrote the book he relied on the information given to him by the Easy Veterans who genuinely believed he was dead, but at least he corrected that in subsequent editions, while in the TV show it continues to state he died almost 20 years earlier than he did. Also, apropos of nothing, Speirs continues to be loving terrifying. The guys sharing stories about him does a good job of showcasing his reputation, but it's that late night "chat" with Blithe (while Martin wisely doesn't say poo poo) that really does the job, when he tells him the secret to being a soldier is understanding you're already dead 
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I also liked when Speirs talks to Martin when he's getting the field commission. Where he's talking about the stories about himself.
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Cojawfee posted:I also liked when Speirs talks to Martin when he's getting the field commission. Where he's talking about the stories about himself. Lipton not Martin
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I also like that, much as they do to the wider company, Winters and Speirs kind of reflect two different forms of leaderships/inspiration to Blithe. Speirs is terrifying but somebody who appears to have a strong grip of who he is, what he has to do, and how he has to do it. Winters is more supportive and approachable, representing an authority who can be looked to for guidance: he'll help you get to where you need to be. Winters gently asks Blithe what is happening when he has gone hysterically blind, doesn't challenge or sneer at the condition but in the process makes Blithe feel supported enough that suddenly he can see again. Speirs leads Blithe back to his foxhole in the dark and tells him he has to accept he is dead in order to do what needs to be done, offering a solution to his predicament but no comfort. Winters finds him screaming and unable to fight in the foxhole during the battle and stands present, bellowing commands but also offering a form of praise as he encourages him to keep going when Blithe finally manages to get to his feet and start firing. Perhaps most importantly, Winters is putting his money where his mouth is, right there with him in the fight. Blithe is almost in awe at seeing him standing atop the foxhole in plain view of the enemy, apparently entirely unafraid though the opening of the episode is at pains to remind us that ALL the soldiers were scared. Of course, neither of those differing ways of approaching Blithe are going to deal with the underlying issue which is that he has shell shock/PTSD, but I liked that even Speirs and the other soldiers never treat Blithe with disgust or outrage: the soldiers are a little confused as to why Blithe seems so off but continue treating him as one of their own. When Speirs finds out that Blithe fell asleep when he first landed and then never went looking for his company, he just calmly tells him what he thinks he needs to do to be a "better" soldier. When Winters finds Blithe "blind" in the aid camp, he just assures him they'll send him home, and when Blithe thinks he has recovered he is accepting of his return. Carentan is a really fascinating episode, not least of all because it ends - slightly too late for Blithe - with a brief reprieve and the sense that the men are more tightly bound than ever now that they've come through combat together. Which makes the coming "Replacements" (briefly seen at the end of the episode, though Heffron finds an immediate acceptance from Guarnere of all people!) even more interesting, because after 3 episodes of following a core cast they're bringing in a bunch of "new" characters, ones who don't have that shared history, the understanding of in-jokes or even stories/poems like "The Night of the Bayonet". It's something Masters of the Air also does but often felt disconnected or missing some cohesion, while with Band of Brothers it all flows together narratively so strongly. Folks, this might be controversial, but I think Band of Brothers might have been a pretty good television series! Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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I think Blithe was another person they did dirty by making him worse than he really was. But in the end, I think they saw he wasn't really a coward or malingering, he was always willing to get back into the fight when he was able. He was just hosed up from the jump into Europe.
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Yeah I like the way Marc Warren plays the role as written but it did seem a bit unfair to single out Blithe the way the episode did. I get that he's the focus character but I don't believe for a second he's the only Toccoa man who had trauma from the jump.
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joepinetree posted:Amblin/Hanks/Spielberg have gone out of their way in every show to make non-American troops look bad/uppity/ungracious in some way. While I would love a good eastern front series, I want these folks as far away from it as possible. Make the focused unit Ukrainian. 
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Cojawfee posted:I would love a tank show. Two episodes of tank battles, then six episodes of following random people who aren't doing anything related to the show. Maybe 20 minutes on a guy who installs the ball bearings. Tim Apple might spring for a couple of bespoke Pz IV. Whip up a factory in china, and we are good to go.
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Chair In A Basket posted:That could be problematic 
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Finally got around to watching the last episode. I thought some of the earlier plot lines were half-baked box ticking, but they were nothing compared to the bus making a quick stop at the Holocaust.
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SuperTeeJay posted:Finally got around to watching the last episode. I thought some of the earlier plot lines were half-baked box ticking, but they were nothing compared to the bus making a quick stop at the Holocaust. that's what happens when your wagon wheel comes off
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Well written, Jerusalem.
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