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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Even in his insane moon logic it doesn't make much sense because Peter broke the hammer hands that make "any computer into crime central"


Murdstone posted:

Apparently, he didn't.

At this point I don't trust any archived data on nsm. Anyone can show up at any point.

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MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
Yeah I don't think anyone except people that read it knew that Hammerhand came back a second time, given that Hammerhand does not even have a wiki article.

Also I don't feel like searching over a decade of comics to check if Cyber-Tooth showed up.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

MonsterEnvy posted:

Yeah I don't think anyone except people that read it knew that Hammerhand came back a second time, given that Hammerhand does not even have a wiki article.

Also I don't feel like searching over a decade of comics to check if Cyber-Tooth showed up.

loving same. It'll be a nice treat when it happens in 2027.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

NEXT: CYBERTOOTH

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Murdstone posted:

One of the top rules of criming is do not write down your crimes. I think it's only second to do not tell anyone about your crimes.



Apparently, he didn't.



Luckily, Hammerhand just kept the money in one spot nicely organized by victim.

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBdGOrcUEg8

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



NEXT: GUN-GUY!

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

I can only assume that the killer has been hired to "take care" of Aunt May

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Dudley vs The Punisher

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Volmarias posted:

I can only assume that the killer has been hired to "take care" of Aunt May

She could use a romantic night out but please leave the AK behind, NYC frowns on open carry.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

By popular demand posted:

She could use a romantic night out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw&t=10s

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

The two smartest extras in the spiderverse

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy






So she'll gamble her money away instead.



Speaking of Gun-Guy

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
newspaper punisher! my body is ready.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender


I didn't realize MJ's theatre career started so early.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Spidey: If you're so tough on crime, how will people feel when they see you being a victim of it!?! :smug:
in some nutty way, this will work.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Ah, the old "tie them up and just say that they're a criminal" ploy. Works every time.

Ikasuhito fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Mar 19, 2024

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
God drat NSM is a jerk

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Ikasuhito posted:

Ah, the old "tie them up and just say that they're a criminal" ploy. Works every time.

In this particular instance, he did get the notes for the goddamn criminal conspiracy from Yates' safe.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
I'm sure the cops that show up will definitely take all of that into account and not just accept a bribe to quietly make all of this disappear, especially in a strip set so close to Serpico's prominence.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Saoshyant posted:

In this particular instance, he did get the notes for the goddamn criminal conspiracy from Yates' safe.

Yeah, but I am not sure why this was his second move. I feel he could have just done this rather than vandalizing Yate's car.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


That woman has dowager money, Spider-Man! :mad:

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Yates walks free, the evidence unusable due to being illegally obtained. Public opinion turns against Spider-Man due to verifiable charges of breaking and entering, assault, kidnapping, and robbery. Jameson vindicated at last!

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Captain Hygiene posted:

Yates walks free, the evidence unusable due to being illegally obtained. Public opinion turns against Spider-Man due to verifiable charges of breaking and entering, assault, kidnapping, and robbery. Jameson vindicated at last!

:wrong:

A good defense attorney (and I assume Yates would have one) could probably argue that due to no reasonable chain of custody, and the likelihood that a spider man with a grudge could falsify evidence, it's not illegal for the police to use information provided by non LE entities. e.g. If a burglar robbing a house comes across CAI, they might call the police (from a payphone way away) and notify them of the CAI present. Because law enforcement wasn't the source of that tip, it would be entirely valid for a search that found the CAI to be used in court.

At least, as I understand it. I'm not a lawyer, let alone a specialist spider law.

E: a quick search implies that while police can use an anonymous tip, there needs to be more for probable cause. The police might combine the tip with other evidence to have enough to request a search warrant. For example, anonymously reporting that a certain building is being used for drug distribution isn't enough for a search warrant, but it could be enough to have an undercover officer hang out to examine traffic nearby and see if anyone stands out, or could provide a reason to attempt an undercover purchase.

In this case, if the police show up to the lobby where their friendly neighborhood spider man hands them a folder labeled "My Crimes," they were given that evidence directly. It may not be usable on its own, but the financial information within could be confirmed which would then be relevant evidence.

Volmarias fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 19, 2024

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Nah, Spidey has anti-karma. Whenever Pete is just going around trying to fight crime the world will have this rabid, murderous hatred for him and he'll be shot at simply for existing. On the other hand, if he does something very illegal or unethical the universe will bend over backwards to reward his lovely behavior. The worst that will happen is that he doesn't get to profit from his misdeeds.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
Is it illegally obtained evidence? Spider-Man might be attorney general at some point, but he's not working for Law Enforcement right now, he's still a vigilante.

E:fb.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Actually, since I've been talking out of my rear end, I asked real rear end Internet Lawyers to weigh in

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Lol, I'll be curious how that plays out. Obviously I don't actually know anything relevant, but that's not gonna stop me from making jokes.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Nice piece of fish posted:

Was it illegally obtained by the police? Because it seems to me like they came into the possession of said evidence during an investigation into an unlawful detainment of two persons by some sort of masked vigilante, and did not themselves conduct any sort of unlawful search and seizure, unlawful arrest or anything. It would seem like the police could use the information as a basis for a reasonable suspicion requirement warrant and arrest, wherein they would be able to investigate and gather coroborating evidence.

Waffle! posted:

Is it a distinction between 'the evidence was stolen property and taken without a warrant,' or 'the police arrived to discover the perpetrators and evidence of their crime was in plain sight?'

Devor posted:

The line is whether Spider-man was acting as an agent of the government when he obtained the evidence. If yes, the exclusionary rule applies. If no, it would be admissible.


Looks like it's totally fine for the Police to take advantage of some vigilante.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Spider-Man
Spider-Man
Helps the cops, secondhand

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Spins a web
Any size
Circumvents
Miranda Rights




Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

I always love how the New York city streets are always just so devoid of any kind of traffic that you can just go screaming through the streets at 70mph.

I mean look at that guy, He's going Looney Tunes fast around that corner.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...




I love that note in the last panel, they did a legitimately solid cliffhanger on the art side, but then they just had to slap LOOKIE OVER HERE, DID YOU SEE THIS?? on top of it

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

I think his spider sense is telling him that he's having a stroke

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The car spells trouble for Peter and MJ!


Also the mom and the baby it is about to run down, I guess... :nallears:

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Spider-sense telling me... she's about to ask me to come watch her lovely play!

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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

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