It's a shame diallos doesn't drop his armour, because I kind of want it but also that means doing the volcano manor.
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Rapier was more fun for my great shield build. I just straight tanked through Malenia's bullshit and then kept gently poking her.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 08:25 |
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Nuebot posted:It's a shame diallos doesn't drop his armour, because I kind of want it but also that means doing the volcano manor. That you need to choose between killing Patches for his armor or letting him live to do his Volcano Manor quest and get Targoth's set for easy heavy poise gloves/legs is cruelty.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 08:41 |
Your Uncle Dracula posted:That you need to choose between killing Patches for his armor or letting him live to do his Volcano Manor quest and get Targoth's set for easy heavy poise gloves/legs is cruelty. Targoth's set is ugly
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 08:45 |
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you can kill patches for his armor after he goes back to the cave though. like it doesn't even take much longer. you murderer
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 11:55 |
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Your Uncle Dracula posted:Unfortunately it means you’ve put poison on a perfectly good weapon when the only real utility for it in this game is the Poison Mist spell for cheesing certain overworld bosses. Poison Moth Flight is the real winner, but idk if you can put it on thrusting swords? Paired with the rot and bleed talismans its ridiculous.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 12:43 |
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OGS-Remix posted:So I've basically gone through two games of Elden Ring; I beat the end boss as a melee and once as a caster. I did not know until I tried to actually start a NG+ that there is a site of grace at roundtable hold. I always went somewhere else to sort chest, organize spells/spirits, etc. and then went back to Hewg/Roderika. I didn't know there was a shortcut to teleporting to the Roundtable Hold until I was in the endgame. I also didn't know you could teleport to the underground from aboveground and vice versa until pretty late. Nuebot posted:Targoth's set is ugly Yeah it stinks how much better Havel's or Giantdad looked.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 13:25 |
I want a skill that lets me do the stupid skeleton flight that some of the undead guys do
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 13:38 |
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you know, that's a good point. I hope the DLC gives us skeleton canoe
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 13:42 |
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Catgirl Al Capone posted:if you can parry something you can parry it with anything. weapon parries are just really bad and hard to pull off. Ratios and Tendency posted:The scimitar parry has a startup of 6 frames and then is only parry active for 2(!!), it sucks poo poo. Steve Yun posted:
I appreciate all of this info 🙏 I am gonna continue parrying with my scimitar cause I can't get enough of that sweet flip animation and I love the challenge of it, glad to know I still got a fighting chance of landing it EDIT: Ah, one more thing! Is there a handy list of weapons that can/cannot be parried? All I know is that flails can't be parried, I'd rather not waste time with those types of enemies. White Light fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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I don't get the rationale behind weapon parries being so much worse than the ash of war special parries. You're already making a sacrifice by trading blocking for a sidearm attack, I figure the parrying dagger should at least have the same frames as carian in return?
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 15:01 |
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It feels like there's a weird disconnect between the utility of parrying and the difficulty/restrictions of it. Like, the timing on it is so strict, and the extent to which you have to go out of your way for your offhand to have a usable number of parry frames is so great, that you would think it's a move with such wide utility that it would trivialize the game if they made it any better. That's really not true at all. It's mostly good against run-of-the-mill humanoid enemies that you can beat with whatever strategy you like. Most bosses are unparryable. Among those that are, the harder ones require two or even three parries to get a riposte on. I honestly feel like if you could put a 14-frame parry on any offhand it still would usually not be the best option.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 15:11 |
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from has been overcompensating for how easy and consistent parries are in DS1 ever since
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 15:22 |
Catgirl Al Capone posted:from has been overcompensating for how easy and consistent parries are in DS1 ever since It's a shame because being able to kill gwyn with parry and riposte moves was the sickest poo poo in that game
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 15:25 |
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Epic High Five posted:You can absolutely just refuse to dodge behind a shield against most/all bosses, but that's a dedicated build and definitely only even remotely possible with greatshields. There's even a strength scaling great spear that can take infusions for shield poking. It's also a bit dull, but once you get bored you have a fully functional strength build already to play around with. every shield becomes the fingerprint shield with the barricade shield ash of war
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 16:03 |
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Sometimes I throw on the mirror shield so I can still use my weapon art while having the ability to guard counter and not take damage.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 16:03 |
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I want an ash of war that lets me do albinauric cartwheels.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 16:25 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I want an ash of war that lets me do albinauric cartwheels. except I want an emote
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 16:39 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I want an ash of war that lets me do albinauric cartwheels. same except i want the spiky bleed cartwheels that the albinaurics in moghwyn do
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scary ghost dog posted:same except i want the spiky bleed cartwheels that the albinaurics in moghwyn do Best I can do is a lightning goat roll, sorry.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 17:16 |
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Targoth’s set is ugly but the legs and gloves are more or less fine and they get you most of the way up to the reasonable poise breakpoint especially with the bullgoat Talisman.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 17:21 |
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Your Uncle Dracula posted:Targoth’s set is ugly but the legs and gloves are more or less fine and they get you most of the way up to the reasonable poise breakpoint especially with the bullgoat Talisman. the legs actually look sick but i can lose the rest of the set
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 17:21 |
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The helmet and greaves from Tragoth's set are the only super-heavy armor pieces that don't make me wince. I am really excited for some more heavy armor sets in the DLC, because while Elden Ring has a ton of excellent light/medium armor sets, most of the heavier sets leave me pretty cold. The scaled set is good, but the helmet is silly. edit: also for the love of GOD give me a chest piece that matches Iji's mirrorhelm, because I love that stupid thing and it doesn't go with anything in the game.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 17:32 |
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I do wish they had more super heavy stuff. Give me a 20 weight pair of gloves with 60 poise that are invisible. Then I can just play with fashion.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 17:54 |
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How about something that lets you have the appearance of wearing one set of armor while wearing a different set of armor? Disabled during multiplayer, of course.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 17:59 |
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Morality_Police posted:The helmet and greaves from Tragoth's set are the only super-heavy armor pieces that don't make me wince. I am really excited for some more heavy armor sets in the DLC, because while Elden Ring has a ton of excellent light/medium armor sets, most of the heavier sets leave me pretty cold. The scaled set is good, but the helmet is silly. I mean, the Banished Knight set is an easy farm in Caelid with the sweet rear end red mantle. Chest piece with blue is brutal to farm though for real. Then there are the Crucible Armors and Tree Sentinel Armor which goes well with my using a huge loving stick to beat people with.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:01 |
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Ariong posted:How about something that lets you have the appearance of wearing one set of armor while wearing a different set of armor? Disabled during multiplayer, of course. I sincerely love there isn't a glam system in these games, it gives a little bit more physicality to the game world. If you want to wear the fashion pay the toll
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:07 |
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No Dignity posted:I sincerely love there isn't a glam system in these games, it gives a little bit more physicality to the game world. If you want to wear the fashion pay the toll It could work like FFXIV's glam system - in which you cannot glam to something you haven't acquired. So the toll still gets paid.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:09 |
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The toll isn't acquisition, it's in playing the game going forward with 3 poise and 1% damage mitigation because you're just wearing a thin dress or whatever. There is great pride in not only pulling your outfit off, but beating the game or some fiendishly difficult boss wearing it. I don't see From taking that away, it's very in line with their philosophy of how they want players engaging with their worlds.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:12 |
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Nah I like it forces a level of diegesis in your character building. No putting deathbed dress on top of bullgoats for the fashion, you do have to wear what you're wearing
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:13 |
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Yeah, glams would be a serious non-starter for me too. Half the fun of Souls is weighing whether to look good or survive being hit with a sword bigger than your own body. Once you can do both, only then will you have truly got good.
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doomrider7 posted:Then there are the Crucible Armors and Tree Sentinel Armor which goes well with my using a huge loving stick to beat people with. My admittedly niche problem with those sets is the colossal loving shoulderpads. I always feel like I'm Murphy Brown with those chest pieces on. ...although that being said, the consort's crown with the tree sentinel BP gloves and greaves makes for a fun King Baldwin of Jerusalem cosplay.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:18 |
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No Dignity posted:Nah I like it forces a level of diegesis in your character building. No putting deathbed dress on top of bullgoats for the fashion, you do have to wear what you're wearing Well then they should come up with a way to diagetically implement some super-heavy armor that doesn't look horrible. EDIT: Like I'm not asking to be able to look like I'm wearing a dress while wearing bull-goat armor, I just want to have the stats of a set of super heavy armor while wearing something that looks like a cool set of super heavy armor, without having a bunch of weird stuff bolted on or a big bulging belly for no reason.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:21 |
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The DLC looks like you'll have some good new options there. One looks like a real classic Black Iron-style set at least
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:24 |
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No Dignity posted:The DLC looks like you'll have some good new options there. One looks like a real classic Black Iron-style set at least I saw that one NPC in the trailer with the repeating crossbow and knew that I would either be completing their quest or cruelly betraying them, whichever it takes to get their armor for myself.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:28 |
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The game is just seriously lacking in super heavy armor, astonishingly so compared to Souls games. It's been a complaint of mine since day 1. There's a lot of stuff on the heavier side of medium armor that should rightly be beefed up.Morality_Police posted:My admittedly niche problem with those sets is the colossal loving shoulderpads. I always feel like I'm Murphy Brown with those chest pieces on. Crucible tree armor has much more muted shoulder pads, but still very likely to be big enough to annoy Each piece of the set also boosts crucible incant damage by 3.5% I use them on a lot of playthroughs because I love the crucible incants now and also they're just a great mix of protection, weight, and fashion. Once I get the beast champion chest though that's what I use forever if I have the endurance for it No Dignity posted:The DLC looks like you'll have some good new options there. One looks like a real classic Black Iron-style set at least oh man, I always used the black iron set in the old games, loving love everything about it, really hope I can return to it
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 18:30 |
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i just want something colored green, like actual no-poo poo green, not Faraam aquamarine or whatever
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 19:04 |
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I want blue pants. Literally any shade of blue. Greaves with blue trimmings would be fine.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 19:05 |
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I'd like some more light options that aren't dirty robes too, deathbed dress is nice but it's like the only item in its class
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 19:06 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 17:33 |
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all my fromsoft rpg characters wear an airy, lightweight fabric or leather chestpiece with the heaviest boots, gauntlets and maybe helm they can find. it always looks good, its logical for an offensive dex melee fighter whos more worried about hurting themselves with reckless maneuvers than being stabbed in center mass, and it has roughly the same stats as a full set of medium armor
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