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madmatt112 posted:What do hearts have going for them that the other suits don’t? First I’ve heard of this, I’m intrigued I assume it's because Bloodstone gives a 1 in 3 chance to give a 2x multiplier. The equivalent jokers for other suits aren't quite as strong.
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Bloodstone is such a game breaker.
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Mar 19, 2024 15:58
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Bloodstone is good but obviously unreliable since it’s 1:3, and also the xmult hits while card are scored, not after joker mult is calculated, so it’s not as game breaking as it looks at first.
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Mar 19, 2024 16:01
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Only had the spade-specific one, the arrowhead or whatever. That bloodstone does sound tight
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Mar 19, 2024 16:05
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Oxyclean posted:I assume it's because Bloodstone gives a 1 in 3 chance to give a 2x multiplier. I need the all sixes joker to make that consistent, it always lets me down in the end.
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Mar 19, 2024 16:08
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What's the best way to get my first win? I'm 8 hours in and haven't been past round 21. It's rare I get jokers good enough to get near winning, and one bad round wrecks me. The last game I had a boss blind with no discards and all my cards are terrible. According to Steam achievements, 75% of players have beaten the game so I'm obviously doing something seriously wrong.
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Mar 19, 2024 16:25
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pisshead posted:What's the best way to get my first win? I'm 8 hours in and haven't been past round 21. It's rare I get jokers good enough to get near winning, and one bad round wrecks me. The last game I had a boss blind with no discards and all my cards are terrible. According to Steam achievements, 75% of players have beaten the game so I'm obviously doing something seriously wrong. In terms of what hand you play it will depend on your jokers but dont commit to anything harder to put together than a flush without lots of deck manipulation (and even flush wants some deck manipulation).
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Mar 19, 2024 16:44
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GigaPeon posted:Too easy. I do that every time I lose to some bullshit. waaay far back but yeah, if i get starved for jokers or if an absolutely phenomenal run suddenly dies to bad draws I put it down for days lol
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Mar 19, 2024 16:46
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:Bloodstone is good but obviously unreliable since it’s 1:3, and also the xmult hits while card are scored, not after joker mult is calculated, so it’s not as game breaking as it looks at first. Yeah, Bloodstone requires the right kind of setup to excel and even with All Sixes can be devastatingly random. I've found that the one for diamonds that just gives $1 per diamond is amazing. It doesn't help your score but it's one of the best economic jokers. You can pretty easily get $8-10 from it per round with minimal effort, and if you've got stuff to retrigger the cards you play it can be stratospheric. And of course it also combos well with Bootstraps and/or the Bull.
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Mar 19, 2024 17:27
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If you can start with either the $10 deck or the deck that gives you higher income on hands and discards that's the best way to go. The advice about Joker positioning is very good follow that if you aren't. It also applies to hand. glass cards go last so you want to add up all your plus multiplier cards then your true multiplied or glass cards and then your plus multiplier Jokers and your true multiplier Jokers Otherwise you would need to post a run video to see what you might be doing wrong
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Mar 19, 2024 17:33
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No Wave posted:In terms of what hand you play it will depend on your jokers but dont commit to anything harder to put together than a flush without lots of deck manipulation (and even flush wants some deck manipulation). Don't be afraid to be flexible either, even if flush is your best hand sometimes it's better to just play a straight that you get dealt than it is to burn a bunch of discards chasing a flush. Also, if you weren't already aware you can discard up to 5 cards at a time, and you can also play (and get rid of) 5 cards regardless of what hand you're playing. When you are trying to fish for a very specific hand you can just play 5 mismatched cards as a High Card hand and replace them with new ones.
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Mar 19, 2024 17:46
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Figuring out that, if you have a specific hand to play that will pass ante, hands are really just extra discards, is a game changer.
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Mar 19, 2024 18:04
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I’m sad I’m at work and not making Number Go Up
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Mar 19, 2024 18:44
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Bread Set Jettison posted:I’m sad I’m at work and not making Number Go Up you're making number go up for your capitalist overlords
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Mar 19, 2024 18:46
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I think my favorite suit for flushes might be Spades, actually. Arrowhead is a very strong source of chips which are otherwise kinda rare, and black suit decks can more effectively make use of Blackboard, which can practically be just a free 3x mult. Bloodstone, while really cool (especially with Oops! All 6s) has absolutely whiffed big time and cost me a run, so I'm a little shy about relying on it.
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Mar 19, 2024 19:24
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Bloodstone plus the dice joker is fun times.
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Mar 19, 2024 19:24
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Plasma deck's just the spite deck right? It just gives you all of the jokers that you'd want in anything but Plasma so you can get the ones you'd want for it when you get annoyed and switch?
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Mar 19, 2024 22:28
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TBH I don't like Plasma for basically that reason; it skews the game in such a way that makes a lot of stuff way more one dimensional. Look for chip jokers early, try to stack xmult late, lose if you can't. To clarify I do think its absolutely a great deck, possibly one of the best, but I just find playing it so much more boring.
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Mar 19, 2024 22:48
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I don't really like Plasma deck, all you can do is stack chips from jokers, or xmult. On a normal run there's a lot of combinations of things that can wind up working, while plasma is solely concerned with stacking raw chips which is hard due to how few jokers actually do that, or xmult which is also generally fairly limited/non compatible with eachother.
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Mar 19, 2024 23:05
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this works the way you would want it to
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Ugh I almost get to a basic win of Plasma and it throws Violet Vessel. At least I finally got the 400 buck achievement e: Oh gently caress I sneaked it in lol RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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Einwand posted:I don't really like Plasma deck, all you can do is stack chips from jokers, or xmult. On a normal run there's a lot of combinations of things that can wind up working, while plasma is solely concerned with stacking raw chips which is hard due to how few jokers actually do that, or xmult which is also generally fairly limited/non compatible with eachother. Yeah, but when it works well it works REALLY REALLY well  Though who knows, maybe a regular deck would have been just as good. Triboulet is pretty awesome.
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Mar 20, 2024 01:24
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Finally knocked off gold stake. I was definitely being pigheaded and bashing my head against the wall over and over with the hearts/spades deck, but dammit, it's just so easy to not make decisions and play flushes all the time!
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Mar 20, 2024 02:49
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Oh boy, a legendary Joker, I wonder which one will show u--  
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Arzaac posted:I think my favorite suit for flushes might be Spades, actually. Arrowhead is a very strong source of chips which are otherwise kinda rare, and black suit decks can more effectively make use of Blackboard, which can practically be just a free 3x mult. One of my gold stake wins was a cloned Arrowhead. It was exceptionally strong.
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Mar 20, 2024 05:21
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 Oh. Oh I see.
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Onmi posted:
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Mar 20, 2024 06:08
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Where it ended: Triple Caino, Mime, Baron, Brainstorm. I don't know if the position I had it in with Mime on the Far Left generated the most points. MG5PIDVI
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Got my first gold stakes win with spectral deck! Ended up getting a bunch of eternals that synchronized well enough to get a high card deck powerful enough to just squeak out a win.
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Picked it up last week, pretty obsessed. Best I've been able to do so far was ante 12, not even close to making a 300mil blind. Curious to work out some more interesting combos and strategies. What allows stone cards to actually be good? Do they qualify for X of a kind hands with themselves?
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Mar 20, 2024 14:45
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Eschatos posted:Picked it up last week, pretty obsessed. Best I've been able to do so far was ante 12, not even close to making a 300mil blind. Curious to work out some more interesting combos and strategies. Stone cards always get scored even though they never count towards qualifying for any hand. If you play 2 + 2 + stone + stone + stone then you get a pair (not a full house) but all 3 stones count towards the hand score.
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Mar 20, 2024 14:50
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Eschatos posted:Picked it up last week, pretty obsessed. Best I've been able to do so far was ante 12, not even close to making a 300mil blind. Curious to work out some more interesting combos and strategies. b.) The +chips per stone joker is kind of stupidly designed for this reason but at the same time it can get massive. The best reason to have a lot of stones in your deck tho is the joker that puts stones in your deck + hologram.
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Mar 20, 2024 14:51
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So what would 5 stones count as? Not even high card?
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High card IIRC, and you get 50 chips per stone as normal + whatever the base high card chips are (5 to start).
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I feel like stone cards would work great on a high card build.
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Ah ok I was wondering if there was some hidden null hand like the reverse of flush five and the like.
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The stone tarot cards were decent on a Ride the Bus/Square Joker/High Card run I had, since I could use them to eliminate the face cards I would never want to play anyway.
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Eschatos posted:Ah ok I was wondering if there was some hidden null hand like the reverse of flush five and the like. I believe the stone enhancement does not wipe out the rank and suit of the card underneath it, because I swear I've had vampire take the stone off a card to reveal a normal card underneath. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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Mar 20, 2024 15:03
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It remembers the 'base card', yeah - it will also reappear if you apply another enhancement to the stone card.
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Wilds are the same - they remember their original suit.
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