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If one is looking at released films, not Disney plus shows. There’s not been a lot of multiverse centric shows, basically just No Way Home, Quantumania, and MoM. There’s not really even a lot if one does add the Disney plus shows (Loki, What if) It’s a weird fixation. You’re using multiverse as a stand in for a general criticism of that they’ve released a couple of mediocre movies and the general issue of the siloing of the Disney plus series.
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Quantumania isn't even a multiverse movie till maybe the last three minutes.
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The Spider-verse movies, even if they're not strictly MCU.
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Right so like half the “multiverse” is Sony and not even Disney. And the spider-verse slaps and did well.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Right so like half the “multiverse” is Sony and not even Disney. Yeah, Spider-verse rules.
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My favorite bit of No Way Home was Sony sneaking in a Venom stinger, and then Marvel clarifying "no, Venom isn't in the MCU, Sony just decided to do that"
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Everything Everywhere also made a ton of money and won every "above the line" Oscar it could.
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Just now learning that Captain America 4 features an Israeli superhero. Falcon and the winter soldier got all hosed up because their plot involved a global pandemic or virus, and then covid happened. How the gently caress are they gonna navigate having an Israeli superhero considering what Israel is (and, hell, has been) doing in Gaza? If I have to lower my expectations for seeing a captain America flick (I'd say the strongest most grounded offerings in the MCU), then they've really lost me. Honestly leaning towards just feeling bad for people involved in the production. Still I hope I'm wrong and they blow me away, even if FAWS had issues. I mean, the parallels with FAWS... a group of young folks see the indifference of global powers to the plight of those they care about, and take matters into their own hands. Only to get obliterated. Cap gives a speech to the powers that be about doing better (while backing them up every step of the way). Hope it's not as cursed as it seems.
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BRJurgis posted:Just now learning that Captain America 4 features an Israeli superhero. They are (or were) in the middle of reshoots so who knows what they've changed.
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If you think you can’t have an Israeli superhero because of what’s happening with Gaza, you might have a distorted view of what’s happening there.
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Super Deuce posted:If you think you can’t have an Israeli superhero because of what’s happening with Gaza, you might have a distorted view of what’s happening there. what do you think is happening there, Super Deuce
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:what do you think is happening there, Super Deuce A large amount of people fully cheering for Israel, no matter what they're up to? I honestly, don't think those events would sway anyone from including an Israeli super hero. Heck, the actor could be Majors squared and they still wouldn't drop that role, since it might not seem like full support to Israel. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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Oh I’ve never seen the exact post a thread goes off the rails before this should be fun. Spider verse nailed the multiverse and so did No Way Home. Both could have just been cheap nostalgia bait like the Flash movie but instead they had tons of heart and legit character arcs.
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Mar 19, 2024 21:05
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Sam is gonna end the movie both sidesing the genocide like the end of the show
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Mar 19, 2024 21:07
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Hot take: I did not enjoy the second Spiderverse. Too much laggy framerate animation and ugly chromatic abberation. Literally made my eyes hurt. Also most of the characters are really one-note. Or I guess adding one note to a commonly shared one.
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I mean, I can see why people would enjoy it and good for them. But I did not.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Hot take: I did not enjoy the second Spiderverse. It's a really good movie, I liked it a lot, but it's not nearly as good as the first one, which was drat near perfect. The second one seemed to lean a little too hard into gimmicks (looking at you, Donald Glover cameo) and "canon events", which I didn't buy into. And the lack of a real ending was a bummer.
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Soul Glo posted:Sam is gonna end the movie both sidesing the genocide like the end of the show "Do better." 
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:what do you think is happening there, Super Deuce A lot. It is, however, not okay to suggest nobody from a people can be good because something bad is also happening. To suggest you can’t is no different from saying we can’t also have Captain America for… well, the exact same reason. It’s asinine.
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Super Deuce posted:A lot. It is, however, not okay to suggest nobody from a people can be good because something bad is also happening. Ooh ooh, name a good Nazi would you?
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Monica Bellucci posted:Ooh ooh, name a good Nazi would you? Claus von Staufenberg? Schindler? Honestly, I don't have an objective definition of the concept good, so I guess you could dismiss them. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if they leave it unsaid that she's Israeli. She'll just be some contacts of Sam or Torres's, probably in Europe, who helps them find the MacGuffin.
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Are they no longer using the specific Israeli superhero Sabra? Because that name is pretty drat loaded, especially in the context of what the IDF is doing in Gaza rn
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EmptyVessel posted:Are they no longer using the specific Israeli superhero Sabra? It'd be shocking if they did.
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EmptyVessel posted:Are they no longer using the specific Israeli superhero Sabra? Sabra/Sabr is a type of fruit or cactus in Hebrew and Arabic. See: the Sabra hummus/guacamole company (which is also not named after a 1982 killing in Lebanon). It is also an old time-y slang term for an Israeli from the 30's, which is where the comics character got the name from. Saying the name Sabra is "pretty drat loaded" doesn't make any sense and is basically the equivalent of saying the fruit "orange" is "pretty drat loaded" because it has been tainted by all of all the stuff that went down in Orange County, Florida. Any American is going to think of the dip company and anyone who speaks Arabic or Hebrew is going to think of either fruit or cacti if you ask them about Sabra. The Lebanese neighborhood of Sabra was named after the fruit. Sabra and Shatila combined is what people use when they refer to the killings in 1982. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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Super Deuce posted:If you think you can’t have an Israeli superhero because of what’s happening with Gaza, you might have a distorted view of what’s happening there. Super Deuce posted:A lot. It is, however, not okay to suggest nobody from a people can be good because something bad is also happening. Consider it against them changing FAWS because their pandemic thriller was releasing not long behind Covid. Captain America's themes (fighting for what's right, power, even politics and presidents). Sam Wilson already had his first Captain America story disrupted by real world events. The MCU is worried or restructuring or w/e. I don't think it's a hoop they wanted to have to jump through. I'm nervous about how they navigate it. Especially being a captain America fan with strong feelings about the state of the world (so I did see your last point).
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For as badly as they bungled the Flag Smashers storyline, it still ended with Sam descending from the heavens like an angel with Karli in his arms.
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Death and little death
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Death and little death Given what happened after, ouch
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Rappaport posted:Given what happened after, ouch ...crushed pelvis?
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I meant her ego, but sure, that too!
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Yeah!! Don't want no loving muties in our films! Get the hell out of here! Speaking of which, the X-Men animated show comes out today. It doesn't look great imo so I'll wait for some initial reviews.
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The writers of X-Men 97 clearly read a lot of Claremont era X-Men. So much classic stuff going on in the second episode.
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X-Men 97 loving owns, was actually quite surprised at how good it is. I don't know how much of the recasting is out of design or out of necessity but everyone sounds great, the newbie voice actors fit in really well and the veterans sound as good as they ever did. It hits a great tone between the cheesiness of the original series and something that takes itself a little more seriously. The jokes are genuinely funny, the action is very well thought-out and I love the interactions between the characters. And that soundtrack, god drat  And yeah the second episode is pretty fantastic. Magneto's character and new voice actor are both amazing, there were a few twists that I didn't see coming at all (god damned STORM of all characters getting depowered was intense and really set the stakes) and that scene where Wolverine drives an in-labour Jean to the hospital 
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X-Men 97: So uh Did Rogue and Magneto have a relationship in the original show that I forgot about??? Also this really is a Day After continuation. Lots of small little tech details like the use of walkman cassette tape players being used.
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