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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Well the set has a bonus sheet of legendaries so he could be including those too. It is definitely Rakdos. Jace is probably also in Oko's team tbh.
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# ? May 29, 2024 11:44 |
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The Eldraine villain is probable Eriette, since she has a minor role in the story. Also Rakdos is there too and now he's best friends with Tiny-Bones
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plainswalker75 posted:The Eldraine villain is probable Eriette, since she has a minor role in the story. Also Rakdos is there too and now he's best friends with Tiny-Bones Eriette's an... odd pick, I'm not entirely sure how you fit her into this whole vibe. Shady medicine woman, maybe? I might be thinking too simply.
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https://x.com/fireshoes/status/1770236809949098032?s=46&t=6TcDRv5TsjsK9hYJMKVitA Man, I guess that is one way to do it.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Well the set has a bonus sheet of legendaries so he could be including those too. I don't believe this set has a bonus sheet of legendaries (going off the First Look) - there's one bonus sheet of crimes (breaking news), and the Big Score subset of mythic rares (in The List slot). The main team in the promo art is: Oko, Kellan, Vraska, Tinybones, Rakdos, Annie Flash (new character). The people who have only showed up in the story so far are: Gisa and Geralf, Kaervek, Malcolm and Breeches, Satoru Umezawa, and Ashiok/Eriette.
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Kaervek is alive? Also I want to know what the gently caress happened to Amalia. She went through an omenpath with Kellan at the end of LCI, presumably to Ravnica, and then was never mentioned again.
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The differences in different colors dealing with spells get really obvious in Brawl. Like, your opponent has a 7-mana Atraxa in the command zone, most of their deck is control stuff, so if this Atraxa resolves, you're probably losing, and if it stays in play you're definitely losing, but if you kill it, they can cast it again. You have already been board wiped twice this game.You are not playing blue, how can you stop that Atraxa from resolving? -Green: can't, you lost. -White : tax it to buy yourself a couple of turns. (they really should unban Dranith Magistrate. If your deck can't deal with a 1/3 creature you don't deserve to play your commander) Hope you have Elesh Norn or Hushbringer to turn off ETBs -Red: maybe you have cards that punish them for playing all the cards Atraxa will draw them. Or you're aggressive enough that even after 2 board wipes, they're still pretty low on health. But if they untap with Atraxa you lose. -Black: can't discard, since Atraxa isn't in their hand. Hopefully they'll tap out to play Atraxa and you can kill her and swing for lethal. But if they untap with Atraxa, you lose. -Blue: counter it lol It just seems like there should be more than 1 way to cleanly deal with powerful ETB abilites, especially since they're getting stronger AND more common. Discard only kind of helps, because most of it is sorcery speed, so can't deal with opponent top decking, and you also need to prevent them from reanimating it too, either by reanimating their creature yourself, or exiling their graveyard. White can at least do something to protect against them by taxing cards and preventing certain cards from being cast. They also have Silence effects that prevent the opponent from casting anything for a turn. It just seems like black or red should be able to do something about them, or at least punish them.
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Silhouette posted:Kaervek is alive? maro answered this a bit back iirc, apparently the lci and mkm stories were written at the same time and Amalia going with Kellan was a thing added by the writer for the former that wasn't communicated to the latter
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HootTheOwl posted:Every Color but green does. Guttural Response
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Guttural Response Is red and doesn't target any spell. I also excluded cards like Life Force for the same reason.
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A Moose posted:The differences in different colors dealing with spells get really obvious in Brawl. Like, your opponent has a 7-mana Atraxa in the command zone, most of their deck is control stuff, so if this Atraxa resolves, you're probably losing, and if it stays in play you're definitely losing, but if you kill it, they can cast it again. You have already been board wiped twice this game.You are not playing blue, how can you stop that Atraxa from resolving? Resolving a seven mana spell should generally make you favoured to win
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Resolving a seven mana spell should generally make you favoured to win this is probably true for the formats you play, but it's not true for every format, and it's a bit rude to tell enjoyers of a format that you've never played how their format "should" play out
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Jabor posted:this is probably true for the formats you play, but it's not true for every format, and it's a bit rude to tell enjoyers of a format that you've never played how their format "should" play out You're right, it was. Sorry A Moose. Having said that, Brawl is just not a balanced format. Occasionally you just get hard countered by an opponent even more than in most 60 card formats. Fortunately it's not ranked, so hit that concede button!
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Sickening posted:https://x.com/fireshoes/status/1770236809949098032?s=46&t=6TcDRv5TsjsK9hYJMKVitA
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Silhouette posted:Kaervek is alive? Did he ever get killed off in the canon storyline? IIRC they just shoved him back into the amber prison after all the Time Spiral stuff but then again the tracking on any of the Jamurra related stories has always been inconsistent.
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Sickening posted:https://x.com/fireshoes/status/1770236809949098032?s=46&t=6TcDRv5TsjsK9hYJMKVitA Is that going to be 1 dude showing up and the other 7 spots filled with placeholder names
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A Moose posted:The differences in different colors dealing with spells get really obvious in Brawl. Like, your opponent has a 7-mana Atraxa in the command zone, most of their deck is control stuff, so if this Atraxa resolves, you're probably losing, and if it stays in play you're definitely losing, but if you kill it, they can cast it again. You have already been board wiped twice this game.You are not playing blue, how can you stop that Atraxa from resolving? The fact that stopping things on the stack is so important and there's one colour that's really good at it reactively (Blue), one colour that's medium at it proactively (White), and a bunch of colours that are kind of bad at it (Black can technically Thoughtseize the card out, but obviously that's not always good enough) is bad, but IDK if there's a good solution. All colours definitely shouldn't be good at dealing with all things I guess, but idk if it's good that you're heavily incentivized to run Blue in EDH because it's not only the best protection for your own win attempts, but also the best colour at stopping other win attempts. fadam fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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A Moose posted:The differences in different colors dealing with spells get really obvious in Brawl. Like, your opponent has a 7-mana Atraxa in the command zone, most of their deck is control stuff, so if this Atraxa resolves, you're probably losing, and if it stays in play you're definitely losing, but if you kill it, they can cast it again. You have already been board wiped twice this game.You are not playing blue, how can you stop that Atraxa from resolving? Fixed
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MrL_JaKiri posted:You're right, it was. Sorry A Moose. 7 mana is the general win condition mana value in commander, even among battlecruiser type players. You weren’t wrong. This is why Farewell costs 6. A Moose posted:The differences in different colors dealing with spells get really obvious in Brawl. Like, your opponent has a 7-mana Atraxa in the command zone, most of their deck is control stuff, so if this Atraxa resolves, you're probably losing, and if it stays in play you're definitely losing, but if you kill it, they can cast it again. You have already been board wiped twice this game.You are not playing blue, how can you stop that Atraxa from resolving? Color identity is a fundamental part of the game. Colors should not have access to the same tools or the same ease of ability to deal with situations as other colors. Blue can counter or stifle Atraxa but it can’t easily destroy the creature once it hits the board, whereas Black can Terror effect destroy the creature. Each color has defined weaknesses and it should be that way. If you start introducing too much overlap and remove color identity this game would become a dull turd. With that said, blue is busted and the Island is the most powerful card in the game if you play well.
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flatluigi posted:maro answered this a bit back iirc, apparently the lci and mkm stories were written at the same time and Amalia going with Kellan was a thing added by the writer for the former that wasn't communicated to the latter I was initially excited because I thought that could mean she's the Ixalan villain, but on checking I realized she's not actually a villain at all, I just assumed she was because of... y'know, being a vampire partially in black whose card basically revolves around committing mass murder. According to the MtG fandom wiki she's off studying in Ravnica during Thunder Junction, but they don't actually cite that, and I have no idea how much stock people generally put in the MtG wiki being right in that situation. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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Ok, maybe picking Atraxa was a bad example because 7 mana bomb. But I think more than 1.5 colors should be able to deal with ETBs. Give another color a way to deal with your opponent's evoke elemental, prime time, bowmasters, Imodane's Recruiter etc. creatures with ETBs are a spell and creature combined in 1 card, so any playable ones have built in card advantage. Like, give black a Stifle that only targets creatures or something. It doesn't even have to remove the body, you can still let them have that! After all, you can kill a creature so they lose the body but still get the effect. It just seems weird that dealing with an ability that all colors get is restricted to 1 color. It's like if black was the only color that got ANY removal. No green fight spells, no swords to plowshares, no bolts, no pongify (side note why does blue need Beast Within) or anything. Only doom blade.
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Ignoring gameplay implications, would the anything involving the engine break if they changed it so a permanent's ETB was countered if the permanent was no longer on the battlefield at time of resolution?
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fadam posted:Ignoring gameplay implications, would the anything involving the engine break if they changed it so a permanent's ETB was countered if the permanent was no longer on the battlefield at time of resolution? "Removing the source of an ability does not counter the ability" is the answer to nearly every judge question involving a newer player.
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HootTheOwl posted:"Removing the source of an ability does not counter the ability" is the answer to nearly every judge question involving a newer player. Sure, but I'm asking you to imagine a world where that wasn't the case. FWIW I'm certain it'd be toxic and the game would be a lot worse to play, just curious if there's anything mechanically that wouldn't work right.
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fadam posted:Sure, but I'm asking you to imagine a world where that wasn't the case. FWIW I'm certain it'd be toxic and the game would be a lot worse to play, just curious if there's anything mechanically that wouldn't work right. There's plenty of cards which sac or exile themselves as costs, including ETBs like the New Capenna lands MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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fadam posted:Sure, but I'm asking you to imagine a world where that wasn't the case. FWIW I'm certain it'd be toxic and the game would be a lot worse to play, just curious if there's anything mechanically that wouldn't work right. I think I get what you're asking, and the only things that come to mind are cards with negative triggers, Exploit triggers, and cards with the ability to sacrifice themselves for an ability (mog fanatic, for example)
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it'd be a fundamentally different game when every instant speed removal is a counterspell
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fadam posted:The fact that stopping things on the stack is so important and there's one colour that's really good at it reactively (Blue), one colour that's medium at it proactively (White), and a bunch of colours that are kind of bad at it (Black can technically Thoughtseize the card out, but obviously that's not always good enough) is bad, but IDK if there's a good solution. All colours definitely shouldn't be good at dealing with all things I guess, but idk if it's good that you're heavily incentivized to run Blue in EDH because it's not only the best protection for your own win attempts, but also the best colour at stopping other win attempts. let red bolt the stack I burn your 0CMC spell for 3. It deals 3 excess damage to you. kung fu jive posted:7 mana is the general win condition mana value in commander, even among battlecruiser type players. You weren’t wrong. This is why Farewell costs 6. Blue has several cards that can directly destroy. It even has a couple of board wipes. They give your opponent something in return, but something weaker. Sure black and white can pick and choose the best ones ever printed, but blue has as many as the other colors would typically run in a deck in those formats so it can actually be about even in that regard.
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ilmucche posted:Is that going to be 1 dude showing up and the other 7 spots filled with placeholder names Being it’s also single elimination and 10 dollar entry , capped at 8….. someone just paid 80 bucks for an invite and called it a day. I assume it was posted at all because it’s required by wotc able spice rack caught it.
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Aphrodite posted:let red bolt the stack In super high power EDH games Chain of Vapor being able to hit anything for so cheap, plus all the super efficient stuff like the Blue March and Cyclonic Rift make it one of the better removal colours imo. I don't really care if you can technically recast that Rule of Law on your turn if I'm winning now.
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fadam posted:Sure, but I'm asking you to imagine a world where that wasn't the case. FWIW I'm certain it'd be toxic and the game would be a lot worse to play, just curious if there's anything mechanically that wouldn't work right. This world is pretty much 'all of Magic before 2001 or so'.
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Sickening posted:https://x.com/fireshoes/status/1770236809949098032?s=46&t=6TcDRv5TsjsK9hYJMKVitA I know the owner of this place, but I don't talk to him often enough to feel like asking him WTF. I wonder if WotC is going to shut this poo poo down or they'll ignore it.
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Aphrodite posted:let red bolt the stack Preemptive Bolt R Instant Counter target creature spell with toughness 3 or less.
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LifeLynx posted:I know the owner of this place, but I don't talk to him often enough to feel like asking him WTF. I wonder if WotC is going to shut this poo poo down or they'll ignore it. With just the way its formatted, it seems like something they didn't mean to get out. There wasn't any advertisements for it right?
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Aphrodite posted:let red bolt the stack Give spells toughness on the stack based on their CMC, and excess damage automatically tramples
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LifeLynx posted:I know the owner of this place, but I don't talk to him often enough to feel like asking him WTF. I wonder if WotC is going to shut this poo poo down or they'll ignore it. Why would they shut it down? It's an event open to anyone who registers ! Claim your spot now (and take a day off work to do it!) A Moose posted:Ok, maybe picking Atraxa was a bad example because 7 mana bomb. But I think more than 1.5 colors should be able to deal with ETBs. Give another color a way to deal with your opponent's evoke elemental, prime time, bowmasters, Imodane's Recruiter etc. creatures with ETBs are a spell and creature combined in 1 card, so any playable ones have built in card advantage. Torpor orb?
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is there an MtGO thread? i have Real Basic Dumb questions about it
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Johnny Truant posted:is there an MtGO thread? i have Real Basic Dumb questions about it https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3979741
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lol, dope! i watched an mtggoldfish youtube about MtGO idly and i guess since i have booted it up all of one time, didn't realize how easy it was to just like, rent a deck, which is dope! my quick dumb questions are - can you still win stuff normally with a rented deck? are there limitations to playing in certain events/leagues/drafts or anything like that with a rented deck?
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ilmucche posted:Why would they shut it down? It's an event open to anyone who registers ! Claim your spot now (and take a day off work to do it!) Yeah more of that. Like, people aren't playing it much, but at least it exists as a possible safety valve. I just wish it was on Arena. Maybe even a single target version of it. I'm just saying, give black or red a stifle but for creatures.
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