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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Kevlar v2.0 posted:

I already love the 2024 season

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Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


It seems almost inconceivable that they would suspend or ban Ohtani, as that would be so incomprehensibly detrimental to the game's present and future, and so that's probably exactly what Manfred will do.

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


the signs were there

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1678717023721857024?s=46&t=Fatz1FdflCVFz-RimfH4Aw

Traxis
Jul 2, 2006

Hearing reports that Ohtani assassinated the Boeing whistleblower

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

hmm maybe he won't be a HoF shoe in

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.

Traxis posted:

Hearing reports that Ohtani assassinated the Boeing whistleblower

somebody check his house for kate middleton

Good Dog
Oct 16, 2008

Who threw this cat at me?
Clapping Larry

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

Trade Ohtani to the Angels as punishment.



Can't wait for the inevitable Angels sports gambling ring to come to light.

Gerblederp
Dec 4, 2009

Ohtani will be confined to playing 81 home games per season as a Toronto Blue Jay after being banned from America for his crimes.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Good Dog posted:

Can't wait for the inevitable Angels sports gambling ring to come to light.

This surely explains why they were so awful the entire time Ohtani was there.

Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.

live with fruit posted:

This surely explains why they were so awful the entire time Ohtani was there.

Yeah but they made a fortune!

Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.
Anthony Rendon hates baseball because his one true passion is betting against the Angels

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

I don't think Ohtani made the bets but I'm 100% sure he paid the debt for his guy and that's still a no-no

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Tatsuta Age posted:

has shohei been banned from returning to America yet

'Ladies and gentlemen, your Los Angeles Angels of International Waters starting lineup!
...brought to you by DraftKings!'

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Harlock posted:

I don't think Ohtani made the bets but I'm 100% sure he paid the debt for his guy and that's still a no-no

This is exactly what got Pete Rose nailed to the wall, paying his guy's gambling debts, which his guy swore he was was betting Rose's behalf (and, notwithstanding the guy was a scumbag and a semiprofessional liar, was probably true, and at any rate Rose has since acknowledged was true) while Rose swore the opposite.

That all blew up in Rose's face because he refused to pay the scumbag a big pile of hush money, Ohtani probably will not make the same mistake and his former interpreter will probably testify it was all his own betting

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Teddybear posted:

It seems almost inconceivable that they would suspend or ban Ohtani, as that would be so incomprehensibly detrimental to the game's present and future, and so that's probably exactly what Manfred will do.

I've been told Manfred will never punish players so Ohtani for cy young and at least two other awards to help him through these trying times.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Can you even imagine if Manfred had to drop the ban hammer on Shohei? I don't know if this sport would survive.

this Bally strike call brought to you by draftkings

DeepDickPizza
Oct 11, 2012

THREE TIME! THREE TIME!

zoux posted:

Shohei announces retirement so he can pursue his first love, basketball.

Space Slam when?

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Dameius posted:

I've been told Manfred will never punish players so Ohtani for cy young and at least two other awards to help him through these trying times.
harsh but fair and most importantly, consistent

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

https://twitter.com/Montreal_Expos/status/1770574098613047446

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Popete posted:

Sports gambling addiction is going to be the Opioid Epidemic of the 2020s and anyone with an ounce of foresight could see it coming.

Yeah there have been lots of articles for years out of the UK where laws around betting have been loose for a while about people losing a ton, struggling to stay away, then getting microtargetted ads tailored to their betting habits & being lured back to ruin themselves more.

There was a new WSJ podcast ep about someone losing $400k mostly through Draftkings. Didn’t fit stereotype as she’s a psychologist in her 40s.

This is made worse by how the betting companies are run by not great people who are gonna have an infinite lobbying budget to steamroll whatever remaining protections there are in the next few years.

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Harlock posted:

I don't think Ohtani made the bets but I'm 100% sure he paid the debt for his guy and that's still a no-no
what are the potential consequences here? If we assume this is what happened and it is proven Ippei wasn’t placing bets on Ohtani’s behalf, does it matter if he only bet on non-baseball sports? Does the league care or is the issue limited to legal problems around the illegal sportsbook?

Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.
https://x.com/grantbrisbee/status/1770619749837484353?s=46&t=qe_Y8YJnNikGLo_JUDPyAQ

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

bawfuls posted:

harsh but fair and most importantly, consistent

Dodgers will need something to console themselves with while watching baseball in October, after all.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

bawfuls posted:

what are the potential consequences here? If we assume this is what happened and it is proven Ippei wasn’t placing bets on Ohtani’s behalf, does it matter if he only bet on non-baseball sports? Does the league care or is the issue limited to legal problems around the illegal sportsbook?
Who knows on the MLB front. Manfred may punish him anyways. The real issue is the federal/state crimes of paying an illegal casino, lying to investigators, etc.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Yeah honestly even if Ohtani himself can 100% substantiate that he didn't do any gambling, he could still be in trouble for paying millions out of his own pocket to illegal bookies even if it was to cover somebody else's debts. I think if the actual facts turn out to be "Ohtani's friend got in deep, Ohtani bailed him out as a favor, the end no moral" then he'd get off with a relatively light punishment (Ippei probably not so much) since what he did was bad but mostly just because he was an idiot rube trying to help a friend. The pivot to the theft angle after the initial story does make it seem like Ohtani maybe paid before consulting with his lawyers and then they freaked out he'd done it and are trying to spin the story to protect their client. Or Ippei really did steal it and Ohtani initially tried to cover for it but is now walking it back, who knows.

Crazy stuff, if there were two players who I really did not expect to ever be wrapped up in scandal like this it'd be like, Ohtani and Trout.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

This is just a stutter step for Mizuhara.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Unless they have betting slips with Ohtanis fingerprints on them and cancelled checks like Jordan to bookies, he'll skate.

The interpreter is toast as far as ever setting foot in an MLB clubhouse ever again, but MLB isn't going to suspend or ban the biggest star in a generation.

BigBallChunkyTime fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Mar 21, 2024

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Jordan
Gretzky
Ohtani


We only need the greatest of all time in Football to be caught for gambling. Dan Marino I know what you did

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
Whoa, I heard Shohei had been banned for life but didn't hear for what. Guess now I know

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Tungsten arm probably made a bet or two in his day

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Jordan
Gretzky
Ohtani


We only need the greatest of all time in Football to be caught for gambling. Dan Marino I know what you did

There's a whole gambling ad about Tom Brady not being allowed

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

bawfuls posted:

what are the odds that Ippei was placing proxy bets for Ohtani and it's Ohtani with the gambling addiction who's now hanging him out to dry??




There's too many potential jokes to make about deferred money and our_crimes.txt that I simply can't choose.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

AsInHowe posted:

There's a whole gambling ad about Tom Brady not being allowed

Ya but what's that gotta do with the GOAT Dan Marino?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Real talk though:

Even Year Bullshit is insanely powerful and starting right on time with the first game of the year.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Craptacular! posted:




There's too many potential jokes to make about deferred money and our_crimes.txt that I simply can't choose.

how dare you insinuate that the dodgers dumped the crimes willy nilly in a txt file

It was an xls file

LonesomeCrowdedWest
May 8, 2008
What I don’t get is using an illegal bookie when you can’t walk down the street these days without seeing an ad for a legal gambling service

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




LonesomeCrowdedWest posted:

What I don’t get is using an illegal bookie when you can’t walk down the street these days without seeing an ad for a legal gambling service

sports gambling still illegal in California

(and I'll vote to keep it so every opportunity they give me)

this news is bonkers. imagine if this is all a smokescreen for the face of MLB's crippling gambling addiction

more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

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LonesomeCrowdedWest posted:

What I don’t get is using an illegal bookie when you can’t walk down the street these days without seeing an ad for a legal gambling service

Both Ippei and Shohei are (or were as the case may be) employees of MLB clubs, they're not allowed to gamble on sports even if it is legal.

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InsensitiveSeaBass
Apr 1, 2008

You're entering a realm which is unusual. Maybe it's magic, or contains some kind of monster... The second one. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
Nap Ghost

:hist101: Rusty Staub learned French

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