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Would be nice if they had actual numbers, not just ranks. They could all be basically the same, or there could be clear groupings. Aside from that, that sort of stat would benefit a lot from a division into, at the very least, male/female. GABA ghoul posted:It's completely worthless for ranking safety though. Crime perception and crime are not necessarily correlated(or have become anti-correlated in many places due to sensationalist media reporting). It's still useful for understanding public anxieties about safety though.
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Blut posted:The countries included by itself should throw up red flags for likely having very questionable veracity. It includes Georgia and North Macedonia, but not EU members like Belgium, Ireland or Sweden that would have more reliable, and more comparable to the rest, data. Why would self-reporting from North Macedonia be less reliable than from Belgium? And why would a response to "Do you feel safe walking at night?" be less comparable? Are Macedonians so savage and alien to us EU members? BTW there are stats for those countries too of course but they didn't make the top-20 list. And there are hundreds of reports per city, which isn't enormous, but also wouldn't be tipped by a fedora-wearing American who decided to lie about living in one of the European cities.
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# ? Feb 16, 2024 13:34 |
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Doctor Malaver posted:Why would self-reporting from North Macedonia be less reliable than from Belgium? And why would a response to "Do you feel safe walking at night?" be less comparable? Are Macedonians so savage and alien to us EU members? That said, I can't find any stats that really justify acting like North Macedonia couldn't be reasonably perceived as safe, especially in comparison to Belgium and Sweden.
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# ? Feb 16, 2024 14:13 |
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I'd feel pretty safe in German Fußgang zones but anywhere near a road and I'm looking over my shoulder.
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GABA ghoul posted:It's completely worthless for ranking safety though. Crime perception and crime are not necessarily correlated(or have become anti-correlated in many places due to sensationalist media reporting). It's still useful for understanding public anxieties about safety though. Home break ins and squatting (not sure about if that's the correct term, apologies) have gone down the last few years in Spain, but the sales for alarm systems have increased until we're the fourth country in number of alarms (not per capita, total). Both the companies selling them and right wing parties have been waving the fear of immigration and crime flags for years, and it shows.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I think the issue here is mostly the fact that it's about perception, which includes expectations. Say a country was extremely safe, but just had a doubling of violent night crime in recent years. Suddenly, the streets feel much less safe than the baseline people had gotten used to, causing the country to fall down the rankings, possibly past much less safe countries that have just been consistently bad - or even improved a little, making the streets feel safer than the baseline expectation. That's a fair point and maybe explains why Scandinavian countries are doing so poorly on the list. Fat Samurai posted:Home break ins and squatting (not sure about if that's the correct term, apologies) have gone down the last few years in Spain, but the sales for alarm systems have increased until we're the fourth country in number of alarms (not per capita, total). Both the companies selling them and right wing parties have been waving the fear of immigration and crime flags for years, and it shows. Where is Sweden on that metric? I was in Stockholm this summer and walked through a cozy residential neighborhood and literally every house on both sides of the street had an alarm system. That's still rare in Croatia.
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Doctor Malaver posted:Why would self-reporting from North Macedonia be less reliable than from Belgium? And why would a response to "Do you feel safe walking at night?" be less comparable? Are Macedonians so savage and alien to us EU members? Statistical comparisons between EU countries tend to be a lot more accurate than comparisons between EU and non-EU countries. Primarily because there are EU standard reporting measures in lots of areas these days, which helps hugely with the data compatability. As well as that you have the issues like wealth, police funding/effectiveness, and corruption, which influence the reporting of crime figures heavily. All of which would favour rich Northern European countries over Macedonia or Georgia. And presumably I don't need to clarify why self-reported figures from an internet website are less reliable than academic or state research figures.
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Blut posted:Statistical comparisons between EU countries tend to be a lot more accurate than comparisons between EU and non-EU countries. Primarily because there are EU standard reporting measures in lots of areas these days, which helps hugely with the data compatability. That would be true if we were looking at institutional data. We aren't. We're looking at crowd-sourced data.
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Doctor Malaver posted:That would be true if we were looking at institutional data. We aren't. We're looking at crowd-sourced data. Yes, thats why my post said, and I quote verbatim: "Numbeo is also completely trash for things like this, its entirely subjective reporting on how safe someone felt walking down a street. For all you know the person doing the reporting is some fedora wearing American who's on their first trip outside of Kansas."
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I guess self-reported/survey data of perception could be interested if contrasted with actual crime stats but as it is Anecdotally, I was just in Barcelona and my friend warned me to never go to some district that I've since forgotten, but I'm absolutely sure is actually perfectly safe. Maybe not like "walk around drunk at 2am with the wallet sticking out of the back pocket" safe but not like you'll get randomly murdered there.
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Doctor Malaver posted:That's a fair point and maybe explains why Scandinavian countries are doing so poorly on the list.
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mobby_6kl posted:I guess self-reported/survey data of perception could be interested if contrasted with actual crime stats but as it is If it was El Raval then a lot of people are told the same thing and also find it safer than advertised. Barcelona however, does have a reputation for having issues with pickpocketers, and I am always extremely cautious when walking around there. A few of my friends & family were pickpocketed, but never assaulted/robbed by force. Those who got smacked, were drunk and absolutely asking for trouble
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https://www.ft.com/content/02e6cca7-6cdd-44e3-9d1e-71ea9883f4b2quote:The French government has pledged to cut another €10bn out of this year’s budget as weaker economic growth makes its earlier fiscal plans untenable.
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https://www.edps.europa.eu/press-pu...ions-and-bodies Summary: use of Microsoft 365 by EU bodies is illegal. quote:Following its investigation, the EDPS has found that the European Commission (Commission) has infringed several key data protection rules when using Microsoft 365. In its decision, the EDPS imposes corrective measures on the Commission.
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Step 1) Cut taxes for the wealthy Step 2) A year or two later claim the deficit is now too large to fund public services at current level Step 3) Cut public services because there "is no other option without increasing taxes on everyone" Macron following the neoliberal playbook to the T
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# ? Mar 14, 2024 20:09 |
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free movement of capital and fiscal sovereignty basically made redistributive politics completely impossible, so now it's a big race to the bottom baby!
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Mark Ames posted:"German schoolchildren should be prepared for war to 'strengthen our resilience', the country’s education minister has said...'civil defence' exercises should be held in schools as part of efforts to help youngsters cope in the years to come."
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# ? Mar 20, 2024 05:04 |
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War yes, but don't get used to the state spending any money.
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# ? Mar 20, 2024 05:20 |
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While she likely said something dumb I am confident that this Xeet by the esteemed Mark Ames is misleading without looking it up.
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true.spoon posted:While she likely said something dumb I am confident that this Xeet by the esteemed Mark Ames is misleading without looking it up. Ames quoting the Torygraph. Politics does make strange bedfellows.
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# ? Mar 20, 2024 08:01 |
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Zivilschutz includes things like spotting misinformation on social media.
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Antigravitas posted:Zivilschutz includes things like spotting misinformation on social media. So aggroposting on SA would count? What won't German engineers perfect
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Antigravitas posted:Zivilschutz includes things like spotting misinformation on social media. No wonder Ames and the Torygraph are against it
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Rust Martialis posted:No wonder Ames and the Torygraph are against it eh he's not that bad also quote:In the interview, Ms Stark-Watzinger, 55, said she also wanted to see more outreach work from members of the Bundeswehr, the German army, to make children feel more familiar with the armed forces. How about we don't reintroduce a backwards martial culture and instead unfuck procurement and budgeting so our precious tax euros actually buy a credible deterrent force that can deploy half an hour's drive away from the barracks without breaking down on the side of the Autobahn
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# ? Mar 20, 2024 08:59 |
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like, I don't give a gently caress about the army except as a tool to solve specific problems and I oppose personally supporting the troops (it's the defense budget's job to do that). if you want to involve the population reinstate the draft because at least that has the side benefits of teaching everyone what the army is and less self-selection of fashy dudebros into the ranks
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# ? Mar 20, 2024 09:03 |
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Zivilschutz has been a thing for many decades. When there's war within a day's drive from Berlin it's a pretty good idea to talk to students about it and be allocated the time to do it as well. There are plenty of classrooms where at least one child is directly affected, and indirectly everyone is. The news is full of war poo poo, gruesome pictures flood social media, etc. I'm not a fan of having the military in school, but teachers' associations want to have the resources to deal with this poo poo.
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# ? Mar 20, 2024 09:43 |
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In Britain we have already prepared for war by destroying the economy, leaving the poor on the precipice of starvation and depleting our military resources. Oh for the start of a war? That's ridiculous.
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Antigravitas posted:Zivilschutz has been a thing for many decades. When there's war within a day's drive from Berlin it's a pretty good idea to talk to students about it and be allocated the time to do it as well. There are plenty of classrooms where at least one child is directly affected, and indirectly everyone is. The news is full of war poo poo, gruesome pictures flood social media, etc. discussing war and civil defense to the extent of protecting yourself, sure. army propaganda gently caress no.
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In my US high school I had an (optional) class called Curent Events. By its nature it covered a lot of of the wars going on at the time. I feel like a mandatory class like that would be 1000% better than what that minister has in mind.
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 12:30 |
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As I recall Current Events was the precursor forum to Debate & Discussion, based off that class name. In Europe's defence, and particularly in Germany, contemporary history is taught, hence the infamous case of the German student studying overseas in the US having to explain to an American classmate arguing against learning about slavery, that, actually, Germany does teach about the Holocaust, because it's important to learn from historical mistakes. Tesseraction fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Tesseraction posted:As I recall Current Events was the precursor forum to Debate & Discussion, based off that class name. irony: Germany learning some oddly specific lessons instead of general rules against being lovely
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Who better to smugly tell Jewish Germans screaming about human rights to shut the gently caress up while a genocide is going on, after all?
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 12:54 |
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I was bored enough to try to look up what she actually said but it turned out to be pretty annoying. The original interview is surprisingly difficult to find and literally every article concentrates on the same three snippets. The one interpreted as "students should be prepared for a war" seems to be "Die Gesellschaft muss sich insgesamt gut auf Krisen vorbereiten - von einer Pandemie über Naturkatastrophen bis zum Krieg." (Society overall has to prepare itself well for crisis events - ranging from a pandemic to natural disasters up to war.). A rather uncharitable interpretation of a fairly bland statement.
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true.spoon posted:I was bored enough to try to look up what she actually said but it turned out to be pretty annoying. The original interview is surprisingly difficult to find and literally every article concentrates on the same three snippets. The one interpreted as "students should be prepared for a war" seems to be "Die Gesellschaft muss sich insgesamt gut auf Krisen vorbereiten - von einer Pandemie über Naturkatastrophen bis zum Krieg." (Society overall has to prepare itself well for crisis events - ranging from a pandemic to natural disasters up to war.). A rather uncharitable interpretation of a fairly bland statement. Yeah this is like the least surprising turn of events ever. Media. In other EU news, Guardian reports that there's some worry apparently about Slovakia becoming more putinist: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/19/slovakia-russia-presidential-election In Slovakia the recently elected prime minister Fico is a "Putin-understander", and now there's going to be a presidential election this weekend, with one of the two frontrunners apparently another Russia fan. I don't know much about this but I wonder how worried we should be.
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Fico has been around since forever and he's a pretty typical right-wing ghoul. Reminds me a bit of bibi but without a minority to oppress. I think he's less of a putinist and more of an authoritarian oval office. He's been a PM couple election cycles ago already. The government before the current right-wing ones was pretty lefty so it's not a long-term trend at least. e: Looking at wikipedia he was PM from 2006 to 2010 and then later again from 2012 to 2018. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Fico simply follows the oh so familiar "disgraced social democrat -> fascist tinpot dictator" pipeline.
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Both Fico and the previous government can be described as conservative populists, left or right don't really matter in Slovak politics. The real difference is that Fico is far more corrupt and has ties to oligarchs and that the previous government allowed investigators to start prosecuting corruption. Fico's party started on the left and was at least nominally pro-Western, but it's currently using far-right rhetoric and it became openly pro-Russian, hoping to become another Hungary in record time.steinrokkan posted:Fico simply follows the oh so familiar "disgraced social democrat -> fascist tinpot dictator" pipeline.
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 23:12 |
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Letting Slovakia secede was a mistake
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 23:16 |
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true.spoon posted:I was bored enough to try to look up what she actually said but it turned out to be pretty annoying. The original interview is surprisingly difficult to find and literally every article concentrates on the same three snippets. The one interpreted as "students should be prepared for a war" seems to be "Die Gesellschaft muss sich insgesamt gut auf Krisen vorbereiten - von einer Pandemie über Naturkatastrophen bis zum Krieg." (Society overall has to prepare itself well for crisis events - ranging from a pandemic to natural disasters up to war.). A rather uncharitable interpretation of a fairly bland statement. Is austerity considered a natural disaster?
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His Divine Shadow posted:Is austerity considered a natural disaster? By definition, it's man-made
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