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here is my boring prediction for what happened and will come of this: Ippei's first story to ESPN is the closest to the truth (Ohtani's PR people letting Ippei talk to the press without a lawyer is still a baffling own-goal, he should fire those people immediately if he hasn't already). Ippei ran up a debt with this bookie, came to Ohtani for help, Ohtani agreed to help him but didn't trust him not to just gamble away the money immediately so he insisted on paying the bookie directly, not realizing this is a crime. Federal prosecutors mostly don't care about the bettors in this context, they're much more interested in the people running the illegal bookmaking ring. Ippei will cooperate with their investigation and suffer some mild legal consequences that pale in comparison to killing his cushy career as Ohtani's bff. Ohtani will at some point be deposed by the feds and at worst pay a fine, the league will not pursue the matter any further, accepting the results of the federal investigation as they have every incentive to repair Ohtani's image asap. But these investigations move slowly, so this will continue to be a distracting story and twitter meme all season, perhaps longer. Once it's done a subset of people will still believe Ohtani was betting on baseball and the feds/MLB covered it up, another group will enjoy making bad-faith posts about the same because it's funny. A "special" group will forever cite this in defense of Pete Rose. Particularly because he's on the Dodgers and everyone hates them now, this will never truly die. If he manages to win a title in LA a fun new narrative will be that MLB fixed the WS since they're in bed with gamblers. But who cares, even without this scandal there would never be a WS the Dodgers win with Ohtani that everyone will agree is "legitimate" since the haters will always find something to complain about.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Shohei's wife is apparently a professional basketball player in Japan, so maybe she can train him A normal Japanese woman
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Mar 21, 2024 19:56
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maffew buildings posted:personally I hope the one two punch of his wife telling him he can't play as many video games and spending 4.5M on his friends gambling debts puts him so deep in the doghouse he hits .092 and opts out and signs a 10 year contract with the Cubs why would he opt out if he hits 092?
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Ohtani will end up in prison book(y) it
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Do we actually know what Ippei was betting on? If it was Angels games while Shohei was there then yeah, that's real bad. But if it was harmless, albeit degenerate sicko bets like NHL preseason games, then he doesn't need the book thrown at him, he needs professional help.
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Imagine what a tragedy this would've been had Ohtani signed with the Blue Jays. Instead, he signed with the Dodgers and everyone's loving it.
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mcmagic posted:why would he opt out if he hits 092? so he can sign with the Cubs which he already regrets not doing, duh
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bawfuls posted:here is my boring prediction for what happened and will come of this: everyone already hated the dodgers hth
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seiferguy posted:Do we actually know what Ippei was betting on? If it was Angels games while Shohei was there then yeah, that's real bad. But if it was harmless, albeit degenerate sicko bets like NHL preseason games, then he doesn't need the book thrown at him, he needs professional help. If he were betting on Angels games using insider info, one would expect he wouldn't have run up such a big debt.
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maffew buildings posted:personally I hope the one two punch of his wife telling him he can't play as many video games and spending 4.5M on his friends gambling debts puts him so deep in the doghouse he hits .092 and opts out and signs a 10 year contract with the Cubs Ricketts gonna give him a revolving credit at the on-site sportsbook.
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I do 100% agree Ippei needs help and it should start with a book on handicapping and a statistics class
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maffew buildings posted:everyone already hated the dodgers hth bawfuls posted:the haters will always find something to complain about.
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Inspector_666 posted:Ricketts gonna give him a revolving credit at the on-site sportsbook. supposed to have a happy hour there today but apparently the Barstool guys are all there so HARD pass
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Poque posted:supposed to have a happy hour there today but apparently the Barstool guys are all there so HARD pass Why the gently caress would they invite the barstool guys lmao, I thought they were just some goobers they actually have FO ties?
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Sydin posted:Why the gently caress would they invite the barstool guys lmao, I thought they were just some goobers they actually have FO ties? they're just there to watch the tournament unrelated to the happy hour, the place is massive and I assume the happy hour is in a different spot.
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mmm I think this is a bit more than "haters gonna hate"
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Poque posted:they're just there to watch the tournament unrelated to the happy hour, the place is massive and I assume the happy hour is in a different spot. Oh whew okay. Still though yeah don't blame you for wanting to avoid being within the same zipcode as those assholes.
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seiferguy posted:Do we actually know what Ippei was betting on? If it was Angels games while Shohei was there then yeah, that's real bad. But if it was harmless, albeit degenerate sicko bets like NHL preseason games, then he doesn't need the book thrown at him, he needs professional help.
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seiferguy posted:Do we actually know what Ippei was betting on? If it was Angels games while Shohei was there then yeah, that's real bad. But if it was harmless, albeit degenerate sicko bets like NHL preseason games, then he doesn't need the book thrown at him, he needs professional help. ESPN story says it was primarily foreign soccer games. He never bet on baseball supposedly as he was aware that was illegal. His original statement to ESPN before it was rescinded he claims he did not know what he was doing was illegal and he knew enough to not bet on MLB.
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Poque posted:bad-faith funny poster reporting for duty.
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To be fair to the haters, Dodgers players keep loving up.
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zoux posted:mmm I think this is a bit more than "haters gonna hate" it's funny that you would say this because your response to astro controversies is literally "haters gonna hate"
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dawg you wrote a 7 part essay on why your team needs a specialest boys trophy edit: must be nice to be an A's fan, which I have not been for 35 years of my life, and not having to worry about anything other than cheering on your half AAA starting roster and hoping Fisher falls down a well
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mcmagic posted:it's funny that you would say this because your response to astro controversies is literally "haters gonna hate" Far be it from me to defend the Astros but can you let a single post by an Astroposter even when it has nothing to do with Trash Cans go by without bringing it up? Like, Dodgers have a legitimate claim to have lost a WS to the Astros cheating and they don't even bring it up as much as aggrieved Yankees fans who lost in the ALCS.
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maffew buildings posted:dawg you wrote a 7 part essay on why your team needs a specialest boys trophy bawfuls posted:the haters will always find something to complain about.
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Popete posted:Far be it from me to defend the Astros but can you let a single post by an Astroposter even when it has nothing to do with Trash Cans go by without bringing it up? yes!
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mcmagic posted:it's funny that you would say this because your response to astro controversies is literally "haters gonna hate" You are deranged https://twitter.com/Chandler_Rome/status/1770887050641760407 I see the Cards are getting the true Josh James experienc zoux fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Popete posted:Far be it from me to defend the Astros but can you let a single post by an Astroposter even when it has nothing to do with Trash Cans go by without bringing it up? I again humbly request people stop generalizing mcmagic onto the rest of us.
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Popete posted:Far be it from me to defend the Astros but can you let a single post by an Astroposter even when it has nothing to do with Trash Cans go by without bringing it up? Before this betting scandal came out I had already accepted that any potential championships the Dodgers win in the next several years will be discounted by a bunch of people as unfairly "bought" or whatever. I would in general prefer to be able to earnestly engage in baseball discussion here at least, as the one place on the internet that isn't completely poisoned. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Dodgers fans are actually way worse about it but there's only one Dodgers fan here and he doesn't really bring it up. Mostly because everyone is sick of talking about it.
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Inspector_666 posted:I again humbly request people stop generalizing mcmagic onto the rest of us. Sorry, I wasn't trying to call out other Yankees posters here. Also I will never stop making Altuve buzzer jokes
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zoux posted:You are deranged It's crazy to me how long guys can hang on so long as they had the tiniest modicum of MLB success. This guy hasn't pitched an MLB inning in close to three years and hasn't had even a partially successful season since 2018, but because six years ago he threw 23 decent innings he can still get chances.
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zoux posted:Dodgers fans are actually way worse about it but there's only one Dodgers fan here and he doesn't really bring it up. Mostly because everyone is sick of talking about it. legitimately we get more jokes about the Dodgers' "fake" 2020 ring than we do about the Astros 2017 I think that's bullshit and stupid, but I'm not in a position to do anything about it
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Ohtani gambling is equally as funny as Altuve buzzer, in that they are both very real things that happened.
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jfc this rule is criminally stupid
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Sydin posted:Why the gently caress would they invite the barstool guys lmao, I thought they were just some goobers they actually have FO ties? I think Barstool’s stand-alone betting app folded and they have a deal with DraftKings again or whatever one the Cubs sportsbook is. So promo for that.
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