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GoodluckJonathan posted:I'm imagining more of a slow burn. Star Wars's popularity was famously a slow burn, yep.
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Martman posted:They probably sold billions of the popcorn bucket It sold out before the movie came out and people couldn’t get it lol Glad I secured mine before the rush
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ram dass in hell posted:It has been 50 years since star wars star wars -> lord of the rings -> dunc
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kalel posted:star wars -> Harry Potter ->lord of the rings -> dunc fixed
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CelticPredator posted:fixed I suppose the first HP movie was technically released a couple weeks before FotR.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I will i support your right to do this
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Finally saw this. Loved the visuals, sound, and all the acting except Zendaya. Really cool to have a big budget series with a story arc like this, I hope they don't cop out in the final film.
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distortion park posted:Finally saw this. Loved the visuals, sound, and all the acting except Zendaya. Really cool to have a big budget series with a story arc like this, I hope they don't cop out in the final film. Everyone else is praising Zendaya, what didn't work for you?
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PriorMarcus posted:Everyone else is praising Zendaya, what didn't work for you? I never bought that she was either some elite warrior warrior (whoever played Chanis friend did a much better job) or that there was any chemistry with Paul. I think it was the accent that really killed it for me
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I like that Fremen women in the movies are members of the war party and not staying home weaving money into their hair and protesting that Jamis was a good husband because he didn't hit her.
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PriorMarcus posted:Everyone else is praising Zendaya, what didn't work for you? While I didn't particularly dislike her, I was reminded of the quip Sergio Leone made about Clint Eastwood: "He only had two facial expressions: one with the hat and one without it". Zendaya has one with the scowl and one without it.
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Zendaya didn't really stand out to me but she did her job fine and i thought she and chalomet had good chemistry
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Doctor Malaver posted:While I didn't particularly dislike her, I was reminded of the quip Sergio Leone made about Clint Eastwood: "He only had two facial expressions: one with the hat and one without it". Zendaya has one with the scowl and one without it. yea the face acting was what really stuck out on second viewing even though I warmed to her quite a bit more then before. it does say a lot, though, that a big budget sci-fi movie has only 1-2 of the actors feeling weak or undercooked. Javier Bardem in particular was outstanding in his subtlety. Transitioning from warm mentor to cold fanatic just using his eyes and speech patterns was incredible.
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Halloween Jack posted:I like that Fremen women in the movies are members of the war party and not staying home weaving money into their hair and protesting that Jamis was a good husband because he didn't hit her. I have an aging SmoothBrain but I don't recall that being different than the books. Harah was classically feminine I guess but Chani took over Paul's challengers to save time, women were straight up football throwing their babies in battle for distractions and Alia (toddler) was commanding a division when she was captured.
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I think some are forgetting that dune is a weird thing for weirdos. It will never be as big as star wars. The same way NIN was never as big as Rolling Stones. I figure it's doing pretty well given the territory.
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All the big megafranchises these days start as video games. Movies are for olds.
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Jehde posted:I think some are forgetting that dune is a weird thing for weirdos. It will never be as big as star wars. The same way NIN was never as big as Rolling Stones. I figure it's doing pretty well given the territory. It's widely lauded as the best science fiction novel of all time, I think it just had to exist in the theater of the mind until technology existed to really show it on the big screen. Star Wars was created to be a movie and it was feasible in the 70's to create models for the starships and otherwise plausibly create every scene. Something infeasible to display simply wouldn't have been added. In this essay I plan to...
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Best sci-fi novel of all time is still kinda weirdo territory tbh.
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Bugblatter posted:Best sci-fi novel of all time is still kinda weirdo territory tbh. Literally every subforum and thread on this site is a collection of nerds and their hobby. Not sure why that flex is necessary.
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*posts in Goons with Spoons* The poo poo you care about it STUPID
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It’s not a flex? You replied to a statement saying it’s a weirdo nerd property as if “best sci-fi novel” was a rebuttal to that statement. I’m here in the dune thread enjoying dune. Not flexing on anyone.
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If you're going to flex in the Dune thread, it needs to be one of those weird prana-bindu flexes where it's your ear muscles or your big toe or something.
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Scags McDouglas posted:Literally every subforum and thread on this site is a collection of nerds and their hobby. Yeah, dogg, we're all loving weirdos around here. I take your point that Dune is widely regarded as the greatest SF novel of all time, but it's also widely regarded as a dense and esoteric SF novel that isn't for casual readers.
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PeterWeller posted:Yeah, dogg, we're all loving weirdos around here. A largely unearned reputation considering it is one of the best selling SF novels of all time
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AnEdgelord posted:A largely unearned reputation considering it is one of the best selling SF novels of all time Yeah, it's silly as hell, but you'll hear people talk about Dune like it's written by Joyce.
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I guess a lot of fans first read in in high school. Which is both a proof that it’s not that hard to understand and also a potential reason for why some people remember it being so.
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Bugblatter posted:I guess a lot of fans first read in in high school. Which is both a proof that it’s not that hard to understand and also a potential reason for why some people remember it being so. I remember being about 12 and reading "Jessica's training had included many drugs" and having to put the book down for a moment to digest that knowledge
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PeterWeller posted:Yeah, dogg, we're all loving weirdos around here. Oh I'm certainly being a bitch here (many people are saying!) but it's nice to have a little alcove to celebrate the fact that something we all hold dear as something we like finally got its chance on the movie screen for real.
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It's in a funny place given over half of what we even know as sci-fi was built on gleefully plundering Dune for ideas, but it also lends itself a lot better to the kind of epic movies than a lot of things, and has enough weird poo poo go on to age better than most despite or sometimes even because of that.
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*trying as hard as I can to get it adapted* Blindsight by Peter Watts is weird, dense and unfilmable!
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Dune was a landmark book because it had a meaty and thought out setting and conflict. Compared to thinly sketched crap like Foundation, it was a revelation. The narration hopping is confusing and the last act is rushed, but it otherwise works.
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God Hole posted:*trying as hard as I can to get it adapted* Blindsight by Peter Watts is weird, dense and unfilmable! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkR2hnXR0SM
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Dune was a landmark book because it had a meaty and thought out setting and conflict. Compared to thinly sketched crap like Foundation, it was a revelation. The narration hopping is confusing and the last act is rushed, but it otherwise works. Yeah Herbert was instrumental in wresting scifi away from the likes of Asimov and Heinlein and opening it up for people like LeGuin or P.K. Dick. I don't think he was consciously part of the 'New Wave' scifi movement but Dune was a big part of showing publishers there was a market for higher brow scifi that could be more literary and thematically complex.
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Man, I need to revisit some LeGuin. Loved her books when I was a kid and have maintained a high regard for her ever since, but haven’t actually read her stuff as an adult.
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God Hole posted:*trying as hard as I can to get it adapted* Blindsight by Peter Watts is weird, dense and unfilmable! there's certainly no way they could adapt wolfe's book of the new sun
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AnEdgelord posted:Yeah Herbert was instrumental in wresting scifi away from the likes of Asimov and Heinlein and opening it up for people like LeGuin or P.K. Dick. I don't think he was consciously part of the 'New Wave' scifi movement but Dune was a big part of showing publishers there was a market for higher brow scifi that could be more literary and thematically complex. Pretty sure he was just mashing together stuff that interested him; ecology, history, social sciences, drugs and pussy magic, into a pretty tried and true sci-fi framework that he probably also finds interesting, though that's usually how new genres and movements start. I think the real trick is that he brought all those themes into a sci-fi story without making it boring as hell, too.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty sure he was just mashing together stuff that interested him; ecology, history, social sciences, drugs and pussy magic, into a pretty tried and true sci-fi framework that he probably also finds interesting, though that's usually how new genres and movements start. That's sort of what I meant by him not consciously being a part of the New Wave Scifi movement but he ended up being very influential anyway
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Bugblatter posted:Man, I need to revisit some LeGuin. Loved her books when I was a kid and have maintained a high regard for her ever since, but haven’t actually read her stuff as an adult. Lathe Of Heaven, Left Hand Of Darkness, and The Dispossessed would be a magical run within a few years for a regular writer, but that barely scratches the surface of her insane output in that period. Admittedly I've never gotten into Earthsea, but I don't think she ever writes bad book, just some more impenetrable ones
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