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Arc Hammer posted:I think I'd use the first machine gun strategem more often if it came with larger magazines or a belt-fed backpack attachment so I could pretend I'm a Kerberos Panzer Cop.
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Arc Hammer posted:So are the heavy armours ever worth equipping if the basic Helldivers armour has the same damage resist? Is the increased recoilbresistance really worth it? Well the padded ability on the basic armor is what gives you that, so you're giving up one of the other passives. I'm almost always using heavy, and the few times I've switched back down to light or medium I get to have a moment of, "Ooooh, so this is why everyone complains about Hunters."
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:16 |
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Arc Hammer posted:I think I'd use the first machine gun strategem more often if it came with larger magazines or a belt-fed backpack attachment so I could pretend I'm a Kerberos Panzer Cop. I hope we get extensive gun porn that also includes strategems and we can do something like this in the future.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:16 |
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Heavy Armour would actually be really handy if it allowed you to have decreased recoil while standing and running. Like you're just permanently braced and your machine guns turn from a spray and pray into a focused beam.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:19 |
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Darox posted:Eagle airstrike is absolutely incredible against bot bases and bot formations. It’s not super good against hulks but it kills everything else including tanks. Kills fabricators in every direction too. Bug holes are sometimes trickier but made up for the fact that sometimes you can line up closing 2-3 bug holes at a time.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:19 |
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BadLlama posted:I hope we get extensive gun porn that also includes strategems and we can do something like this in the future. The first game had upgrades to weapons so maybe we'll get them here too.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:28 |
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I kind of hope they'd put our primary rifles on the shoulder opposite where the support rifle hangs out, its so weird having a full sized rifle tucked on your belt like a sword.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:29 |
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Arc Hammer posted:Heavy Armour would actually be really handy if it allowed you to have decreased recoil while standing and running. Like you're just permanently braced and your machine guns turn from a spray and pray into a focused beam. Honestly it is the flinching that is the real mother fucker. Crouch strafing is a lot more accurate for fine tuning than swinging a mouse around to gun down a wide group of targets, but nothing in the world can save you from having a slow gun's crosshair bullied by flinch damage until you say gently caress it and start doing wild dives praying to Max Payne. Had an earlier fight one on one with a devastator from a high ground position going embarrassingly bad, until I jumped off the cliff. Can't stop my
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Black Noise posted:I like to give me friends a little ammo as a treat Had a level 8 match earlier with 3 randos where I was running a GL/Supply pack and the map was going badly. We were alive but there were no brakes at all. It was the ore sampling mission. I used all my backpack and we got a really short lull where we all sat there and they called in a resupply when I called in my supply pack a couple seconds later. They devoured the supply pack then when I dropped mind went to gram the new one everyone was bumping me me for more supplies and doing hug emotes until I gave up 3 of the 4 out of the new backpack. Made me laugh. You could feel the desperation of double cool down and double call in time. Captain Ironblood posted:I saved for so long to get the Scorcher but it felt so bad when compared to the ol' standby, the Slugger. I like the scorcher. I like the slugger as well, but I'm using the Scorcher all day today for the first time. They don't really seem comparable at all. They can both stun, but with the scorcher on medium bugs they seem to go down way faster to leg shots. Scorcher can pop spewers and Nurses outright. I quite like it. It's not really a replacement IMHO, more of a side grade.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:05 |
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i just ran grenade launcher with greedy supply pack for the first time and i feel like i may have been sleeping on this one.
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Owlbear Camus posted:i just ran grenade launcher with greedy supply pack for the first time and i feel like i may have been sleeping on this one. And it frees your grenade slot for stun grenades! Infinite stun grenades are an incredible force multiplier. Sindai fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:i just ran grenade launcher with greedy supply pack for the first time and i feel like i may have been sleeping on this one. It's really fun, you can hold a LOT of grenades. Also remember blow some primary bags and top off your life and a couple thrown grenades each time before you use a backpack supply, it fills them all up! (at least partly!)
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:15 |
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Sindai posted:And it frees your grenade slot for stun grenades! Infinite stun grenades are an incredible force multiplier. This, bug breach? Wait a second or two then toss a stun grenade in the dust cloud, then holding fire button, profit.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:18 |
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Just had a game where a level 50 dude with Chinese characters for a name had an orange mech that had twin autocannons and a buggy that fit the whole squad and one guy got to use a MG in a turret.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:22 |
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how long did the buggy survive
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:33 |
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Ciaphas posted:how long did the buggy survive It was an automaton desert planet so it lasted two seconds and killed three of the four.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:34 |
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awesome
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:36 |
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Had a guy explode me with a barrage while I was ahead of him clearing out a bug outpost then he stole my grenade launcher so I shot him in the face and took it back
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:43 |
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Your murderous treachery was way out of proportion to his broad-spectrum spreading of democracy.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:47 |
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Had a real good level 8 mission earlier today with random pubs where we all extracted with all our super samples on a hatchery mission. 3 of us were on comms after i told a dude to check his weapon loadout since it will reset on ps5 after an app reboot. Was able to find the buttplug pretty fast and tell them that I'd drop them at extract. We split off in groups of 2 and they made enough noise overall that clearing the nests was fairly trivial. Just a quick clear of the initial defenders and a few impact grenades/defender shots after a 500kg from a distance with servo assisted armor. Seems like the bugs at least go towards where the stratagem was thrown from, so on mission of that type you can toss the strat, then relocate and do a fast clear amd just dip with minimal effort. Extract got hairy once our strats were on cooldown/it had the 4 min extract modifier, but we were able to communicate and grab everything and dip out by the time the shuttle landed. Everyone but me had 100+ kills, but way higher death counts. Team cohesion and communication is real drat cool when it meshes together and people know to run away. We managed to get away from 2 stalker nests without killing them. Apparently if you can kite the hordes and avoid LOS for stalkers they'll lose track of you.
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Lladre posted:Just had a game where a level 50 dude with Chinese characters for a name had an orange mech that had twin autocannons and a buggy that fit the whole squad and one guy got to use a MG in a turret. theres a mod on nexus that says it lets you use unreleased stratagems, including the apc and other mechs. no idea if/how it works but itd be very funny if a nexus mod bypasses the games anti cheat
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 05:49 |
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Do stun grenades work on the chargers and Titans?
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 06:04 |
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It's weird realizing how good some weapons are at their niche when you switch away after not really using other things. I almost exclusively used the autocannon since it was a pretty solid swiss army knife for the lower/lower-medium tier enemies but then I converted to the EAT. I don't regret it since I'm running 7s now and they get a LOT of use but I didn't realize that the Bile bugs were actually pretty bad in their own right- a thing I 100% did not notice playing with the autocannon. I quite literally thought they were baby-tier fodder because even when you see big groups of them the autocannon just mops them up so effortlessly they may as well be the tiny bugs you can hose down with a secondary. It's not quite like that when you only have an EAT on your back since they can suck up a LOT of punisher rounds even at close range and when they bombard you from far away it's pretty annoying! I switched to Eagle Cluster/Strike, Orbital Laser (which seems to be to be a trap/crutch), EATs, punisher, and the little PDW. It seems to cover most bug issues. I should dump orbital laser for something else for bugs. The laser is much better for automatons since you can obliterate their medium/large bases with a single one where the laser does not close bug holes.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 06:17 |
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Arc Hammer posted:Do stun grenades work on the chargers and Titans? Yes
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Fabricated posted:I quite literally thought they were baby-tier fodder because even when you see big groups of them the autocannon just mops them up so effortlessly they may as well be the tiny bugs you can hose down with a secondary. Grab either of the two plasma weapons and you can go back to dumpstering them.
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Fabricated posted:It's weird realizing how good some weapons are at their niche when you switch away after not really using other things. I almost exclusively used the autocannon since it was a pretty solid swiss army knife for the lower/lower-medium tier enemies but then I converted to the EAT. I don't regret it since I'm running 7s now and they get a LOT of use but I didn't realize that the Bile bugs were actually pretty bad in their own right- a thing I 100% did not notice playing with the autocannon. I quite literally thought they were baby-tier fodder because even when you see big groups of them the autocannon just mops them up so effortlessly they may as well be the tiny bugs you can hose down with a secondary. It's not quite like that when you only have an EAT on your back since they can suck up a LOT of punisher rounds even at close range and when they bombard you from far away it's pretty annoying! Or you can run scorcher and shoot them in the side of their abdomen since that's also explosive damage, but that can be more finnicky.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 06:41 |
Unhappy Meal posted:I'm almost always using heavy, and the few times I've switched back down to light or medium I get to have a moment of, "Ooooh, so this is why everyone complains about Hunters." I feel this exact sentiment every time I swap as well, heavy armor for life
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 06:43 |
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I just bought this game and the camera starts to move when I move the mouse, but immediately snaps back to the original position. I did a little looking around and saw people having mouse issues, but not this specific one. I'm playing on Linux, so I'm wondering if the anti-cheat is seeing my mouse inputs as some kind of cheat, and canceling the inputs? I don't know if that's even a thing they can do, and I found people claiming it worked fine in Linux for them, but there's lots of different versions and configurations, so that might not mean a whole lot. The mouse works fine in menus, and the camera is responding to it, it's just getting reset every tenth of a second or so. If it's a weird bug in the game, I'll just wait for a fix, but if it is the anti cheat, I figure I oughta refund. edit: Posting about it on the internet (and changing my proton version) seems to have fixed it, so nevermind. skeletronics fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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Arc Hammer posted:Do stun grenades work on the chargers and Titans? Oh yeah. I usually chuck 500s in front of titans and stun them when they hit the beam.
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Fabricated posted:It's weird realizing how good some weapons are at their niche when you switch away after not really using other things. I almost exclusively used the autocannon since it was a pretty solid swiss army knife for the lower/lower-medium tier enemies but then I converted to the EAT. I don't regret it since I'm running 7s now and they get a LOT of use but I didn't realize that the Bile bugs were actually pretty bad in their own right- a thing I 100% did not notice playing with the autocannon. I quite literally thought they were baby-tier fodder because even when you see big groups of them the autocannon just mops them up so effortlessly they may as well be the tiny bugs you can hose down with a secondary. It's not quite like that when you only have an EAT on your back since they can suck up a LOT of punisher rounds even at close range and when they bombard you from far away it's pretty annoying! Moving away from the AC also frees up your backpack slot which is huge. Shield/supply/jetpack/guard dog can really cover up any weaknesses you have.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 07:08 |
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Man, EATs just rule. Drop a charger in one hit, sometimes making it do a little somersault. Sometimes, that somersault involves crushing me instantly. AC is nice for clearing a lot of bug holes, but I feel like the GL might be better?
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 07:57 |
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Both are great for bug holes and in general. The Autocannon has better range, accuracy, and a ton of ammo while the GL has bigger splash, doesn't need a backpack, and can reload on the move. The Autocannon also has a much easier time with Spore and Shrieker towers - the latter of which the GL can't even damage due to armor.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 08:19 |
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I like the AC a lot more because you can pop off brood commander heads with snapshots while running away if you set the aiming reticle to always on. Against bots everything either needs multiple precision shots or is too small to effectively hit on the move, but bugs are fat and wide so you can easily take shots while running. You also have infinitely more ammo and range which is great for bases and picking off distant mortarbugs.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 08:30 |
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Arc Hammer posted:Do stun grenades work on the chargers and Titans? Sure does, it'll stop Chargers mid-charge even but it'll bug out their animation. Great for making bile titans chill in place while they wait for their 500kg to arrive https://i.imgur.com/A0RioOg.mp4
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 09:15 |
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Additionally, the short reload on the AC is really short, so if you're just slamming in a single 5 round clip instead of doing the while song and dance, it only takes a second, which is a big boost to uptime even when you're not doing the assisted reload gimmick.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 09:16 |
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I really miss the arc thrower. Never realised how poo poo my aim was until it bugged out
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 10:59 |
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captainclaw posted:I really miss the arc thrower. Never realised how poo poo my aim was until it bugged out If you can deal with the range reduction and the occasional self-immolation, flamer vs bugs ticks a lot of the same boxes for me, with the difference that unlike the arc thrower it makes complete chumps out of chargers in seconds.
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Fishstick posted:If you can deal with the range reduction and the occasional self-immolation, flamer vs bugs ticks a lot of the same boxes for me, with the difference that unlike the arc thrower it makes complete chumps out of chargers in seconds. Worth a shot at least. Friendly fire must resume
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captainclaw posted:Worth a shot at least. Friendly fire must resume Stun grenades are hilariously effective in combo with a flamer since you can just stop Chargers mid-charge and roast their leg before the stun wears off.
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Owlbear Camus posted:i just ran grenade launcher with greedy supply pack for the first time and i feel like i may have been sleeping on this one. Best part about the loadout is that it's enemy agnostic. You can delete patrols of trashbots just as easily as you can trashbugs. Devastators and Berserkers still soak up a bunch of ammo but they're much easier to deal with when the commissar and 3x shoulder mounted rocket launcher assholes all ate a hail of 40mm grenades and were vaporized.
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