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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
accidently posted this in the auspol thread instead

crepeface posted:

https://x.com/Consortiumnews/status/1771916538905534625?s=20

quote:

Chaos at Sydney's Port Botany last night as protestors blockaded a ZIM Shipping boat bound for Israel. 19 were arrested including Maritime Union of Australia branch secretary Paul Keating. They now face fines that have recently been increased to $22K and up to two years jail. Angry that Australia is providing military aid to a plausible genocide in Gaza, the crowd chanted: "ZIM Shipping out of Australia!", "Ceasefire now!" and "Albanese, blood on your hands!".

crepeface has issued a correction as of 06:00 on Mar 25, 2024

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Orange Devil posted:

Why did you tell us she is a democrat twice?

Okay fair because more republicans voted against the defunding then democrats did.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Horseshoe theory posted:

Except that the potential successors (Gantz, Sa'ar, Ben-Gvir, Lapid, etc.) will keep the genocide going so you're just shuffling chairs, not changing material circumstances for the Palestinian people by replacing Bibi with another of the ghouls, which ultimately is the only thing that matters. You want to destroy the capacity to genocide, not spill Bibi out of office for a 'decorum' fascist to be continuing it.

Bibi isn't an aberration that has seized control of the democratic process like liberal Zionists imagine, he is actually the exact sort of gangster needed to hold the Zionist project together at this moment. He kept winning elections and coming back to power over several decades for a reason. Bibi getting forced out would heighten the political crisis in Israel, not resolve it.

You're right that the end to the genocide and occupation will not come from internal Israeli politics. However, the eventual defeat of Israel and the Zionist project will be determined in part by those internal politics.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/ViktorNaumenk99/status/1772095597899555136

CheetoVonTito
Nov 11, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 15 hours!)

Some uplifting news- people around the world are PISSED!

Morocco:
https://x.com/sprinterfactory/status/1772157865492414819?s=46

Jordan:
https://x.com/terrence_str/status/1772090423101522192?s=46

Japan:
https://x.com/akimotothn/status/1771892633998381388?s=46

Iran:
https://x.com/jawadabubakar7/status/1772121303442477564?s=46

https://x.com/presstv/status/1771976757526294829?s=46

Australia:

https://x.com/sprinterfactory/status/1772157960816390377?s=46

Canada:

https://x.com/xjusticexpeace/status/1771980231949136003?s=46

And lastly, this Egyptian man is all of us.

https://x.com/emadisanie624/status/1772161892884062272?s=46

CheetoVonTito has issued a correction as of 09:28 on Mar 25, 2024

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK




:smith:

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
at the end of the day, the arab governments made it clear, "we are israels allies and dogs, and if you want to help the palestinians you will have to kill us." what people do with that information is up to them. people can go ahead and protest, but at the end of the day, as long as the moroccan king, the jordanian king, Sisi, etc. still get to live and carry on nothing changes.

still its good that these protests are happening its good for morale.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/CPGBML/status/1772194138420658286?s=20

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

https://x.com/aoc/status/1772047796004163828?s=46&t=q1yioAlNJ1Wnv5VQrEw_AA

AOC getting into it with the ADL now.

Isn’t the South African update to the ICJ soon? I would be amazed if the ICJ doesn’t go further into this is genocide at this point.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Raccooon posted:

https://x.com/aoc/status/1772047796004163828?s=46&t=q1yioAlNJ1Wnv5VQrEw_AA

AOC getting into it with the ADL now.

Isn’t the South African update to the ICJ soon? I would be amazed if the ICJ doesn’t go further into this is genocide at this point.

The Israeli "this is how we're complying" paperwork to the ICJ was on the 26th of last month and SA had a month from then to respond, but I am not sure what exact date is set

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




Huh. Must be an election year if she's pretending to care.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald has issued a correction as of 15:04 on Mar 25, 2024

Desiderata
May 25, 2005
Go placidly amid the noise and haste...

Raccooon posted:

https://x.com/aoc/status/1772047796004163828?s=46&t=q1yioAlNJ1Wnv5VQrEw_AA

AOC getting into it with the ADL now.

Isn’t the South African update to the ICJ soon? I would be amazed if the ICJ doesn’t go further into this is genocide at this point.

~ In the calmest voice ~

Genocide requires intent. We have been patently clear with our objectives: To cripple the Judeo-Bolsheviks & release land to our pure volk. This genocide accusation lacks proper factual or legal foundation. Such statements merely perpetuate false claims & foster hate.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
hey israel guess what

171 days in

ashdod getting rocketed by hamas in gaza

eat poo poo!!!

===

Al-Qassam Brigades bomb Asdod with a rocket launch

The Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), said they “bombed the occupied Assad with a rocket-propelled launch in response to the targeting of civilians in the Gaza Strip.”

In turn, the Al-Jazeera correspondent said that sirens are ringing in Asdod in the northern Gaza Strip.

In return, IDF Radio announced the interception of two of the 8 rockets fired from Gaza towards no Ashdood.

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...31605;&%231606;

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
Genocide requires intent and Israel has been patently clear with its objectives.

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

Desiderata posted:

~ In the calmest voice ~

Genocide requires intent. We have been patently clear with our objectives: To cripple the Judeo-Bolsheviks & release land to our pure volk. This genocide accusation lacks proper factual or legal foundation. Such statements merely perpetuate false claims & foster hate.

Germany has a right to breathing room!

National Parks
Apr 6, 2016

Raccooon posted:

https://x.com/aoc/status/1772047796004163828?s=46&t=q1yioAlNJ1Wnv5VQrEw_AA

AOC getting into it with the ADL now.

Isn’t the South African update to the ICJ soon? I would be amazed if the ICJ doesn’t go further into this is genocide at this point.

Bullying works

6 months in we get the highest profile progressive to use the words "genocide"

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Raccooon posted:

https://x.com/aoc/status/1772047796004163828?s=46&t=q1yioAlNJ1Wnv5VQrEw_AA

AOC getting into it with the ADL now.

Isn’t the South African update to the ICJ soon? I would be amazed if the ICJ doesn’t go further into this is genocide at this point.

normal starvation and famine is okay though

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

bedpan posted:

normal starvation and famine is okay though

Voluntary famine

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Raccooon posted:

https://x.com/aoc/status/1772047796004163828?s=46&t=q1yioAlNJ1Wnv5VQrEw_AA

AOC getting into it with the ADL now.

Isn’t the South African update to the ICJ soon? I would be amazed if the ICJ doesn’t go further into this is genocide at this point.

time to post a textbook case of genocide again.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/pm-says-hell-call-off-senior-aides-trip-to-dc-if-us-doesnt-veto-unsc-gaza-resolution/

quote:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will call off the visit of his senior aides to Washington DC this week if the US does not use its veto to block a UN Security Council resolution today calling for a ceasefire that is not conditioned on a release of the hostages held by Hamas, his office says.

National Security Adviser Tzachi Hanegbi and Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer are set to fly to the US capital to hear American proposals for expanded humanitarian aid in Gaza and alternatives to a major land operation in Rafah.

The trip was planned at the request of US President Joe Biden after his call with Netanyahu last week, their first in a month.

Netanyahu’s threat to cancel the trip comes after Dermer was informed early this morning by the Biden Administration that the US would support two separate UN resolutions, one calling for a ceasefire and one for the release of the Hamas hostages, according to the Prime Minister’s Office.

The ceasefire call would not be conditioned on the release of hostages.

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat

Raccooon posted:


Isn’t the South African update to the ICJ soon? I would be amazed if the ICJ doesn’t go further into this is genocide at this point.

It took over a decade for the bosnian genocide to work its way through the icj

hadji murad
Apr 18, 2006

gee I wonder what the US will do

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

"Threat" lmao, who does this guy think he is?

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

quote:

"You can call it ethnic cleansing. I repeat again, the Arabs do not want, normal Arabs do not want to live in Gaza. If you want to call it cleansing, if you want to call it apartheid, you choose your definition. I choose the way to protect the state of Israel. "

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1772217348356759772

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

Huh. Must be an election year if she's pretending to care.



I think it's bleakly funny that over here, the previous government left the current one with a decent work plan + budget surplus but bc of the press doesn't want to talk about that, they're actually covering I/P stuff and noticing they're getting a worse headache on trying to sell the ISR side. Plz Costa go occasionally on tv to tell how good your government was so we can get at least one reporter to crticize the ISR spokesperson other than ignoring him any time he gets jumpy at our unions or someone who watched ISR tiktok for more than ten seconds. Call it Prego-posting, but so far the new admin is a bit of an unknown regarding this or the Yemen situation other than talking heads getting pissy about people being too nice to Palestine or calling to use the Houthi blockade as an excuse to not pay teachers (or the farmers or the policemen)

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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

I'm really worried these fascists are going to manufacture consent on this view. Soon it will become the acceptable position of Israeli "centrists", then in Washington, then the media.

386-SX 25Mhz VGA
Jan 14, 2003

(C) American Megatrends Inc.,
Call of Duty 6: Tunnel Warfare

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

the us will obviously veto but lol at the threat of "I'm not going to send my rude gross men to visit you"

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Bear Retrieval Unit posted:

the us will obviously veto but lol at the threat of "I'm not going to send my rude gross men to visit you"

a threat for biden considering his devotion to zionism

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
apparently there's gonna be a resolution today with a good chance that america wont veto but abstain from

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‎New draft resolution before the Security Council calling for a ceasefire in Gaza‎

‎The UN Security Council‎‎ is again seeking on Monday to adopt a text demanding an "immediate ceasefire" in ‎‎Gaza‎‎, a demand that the United States has blocked several times but has recently shown signs of a change in tone with its ally Israel.‎

‎On Friday, Russia and China vetoed the U.N‎‎. Security Council to overturn a U.S. draft resolution in which Washington for the first time backed an "immediate" ceasefire and the release of detainees in Gaza.‎

‎Some observers saw the project as a major shift in the position of Washington, which is under pressure to reduce its support for Israel after the ongoing aggression on the Gaza Strip resulted in more than 32,000 martyrs.‎

‎The United States has systematically opposed the term "ceasefire" in UN resolutions, blocking three provisions in this regard.‎

‎The overthrown U.S. text did not explicitly call for an immediate ceasefire, but rather used language deemed vague by Arab states and China, as well as Russia, which denounced the "hypocrisy" of the United States.‎

Negotiations

‎The draft resolution to be put to a vote today is the result of the work of non-permanent members of the council who negotiated with the United States over the weekend in an attempt to avoid another failure, according to diplomatic sources who expressed some optimism about the outcome of the vote.‎

‎"We expect, unless there is any last-minute development, that the draft resolution will be adopted and that the United States will not vote against it," a diplomat told AFP.‎

The latest version of the draft "demands an immediate ceasefire within Ramadan", "leading to a permanent ceasefire", and "the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages", AFP reported.‎

‎China announced its support for the new draft resolution, and ‎‎Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lin Jian said on Monday, "China supports this draft resolution and congratulates Algeria and other countries for their tireless work in this field," adding, "We hope that the Security Council will approve it as soon as possible and send a strong message to stop the fighting."‎

‎Israel says the Palestinian resistance detained about 250 people in Operation ‎‎Al-Aqsa Flood‎‎, 130 of whom remain in Gaza, while 33 are believed to have died.‎

‎The new draft resolution also calls for the "removal of all obstacles" to humanitarian aid, without which Gaza's 2.4 million residents are at risk of famine.‎

‎Since the seventh of last October, the Security Council has only been able to adopt two resolutions of a humanitarian nature on the file of the war on Gaza, out of 8 draft resolutions put to a vote.‎

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2024...%AF%D8%B9%D9%88

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

I mean they're welcome to get killed if they want to.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Al-Saqr posted:

apparently there's gonna be a resolution today with a good chance that america wont veto but abstain from

November is getting closer and closer and Biden's team are going for a middle position that will let the genocide proceed uninhibited but will allow a certain percentage of progressive, conscience democratic voters to jump right back onto the biden train

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
The UN security council meeting is happening now live


‎Security Council begins session to vote on draft ceasefire in Gaza‎
‎The UN ‎‎Security Council‎‎ has begun a session to vote on a draft resolution on a ceasefire in ‎‎the Gaza Strip‎‎.‎

‎Mozambique to the United Nations:‎

‎We are submitting this draft resolution on behalf of all elected members of the Security Council.‎
‎The escalation of the conflict in Gaza and its catastrophic repercussions is a clear threat to international peace and security.‎
‎Any decision we take here affects the entire international community.‎

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...?update=6392428

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

The us wanted the word permanent removed on the draft from i just read on alj

Sources said that the US has asked for the text to not include a reference to a “permanent” ceasefire but a “lasting” one.

HallelujahLee has issued a correction as of 15:35 on Mar 25, 2024

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

bedpan posted:

November is getting closer and closer and Biden's team are going for a middle position that will let the genocide proceed uninhibited but will allow a certain percentage of progressive, conscience democratic voters to jump right back onto the biden train

I dunno it's calling for an immediate ceasefire that must become a permanent ceasefire, and the immediate removal of all obstacles to bringing in unlimited aid, so the genocide will stop but by handing back the hostages it removes alot of cards Hamas has unless israel has to withdraw from gaza as well.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

HallelujahLee posted:

The us wanted the word permanent removed on the draft from i just read on alj

Sources said that the US has asked for the text to not include a reference to a “permanent” ceasefire but a “lasting” one.

lmao

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Russia is now saying that america tried to pull a fast one over the past hour, removing 'permanent' in the last second, he's demanding a verbal re-inclusion of 'permament ceasefire' or it will be vetoed.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Hasn't Israel broken every previous ceasefire agreement with zero consequences?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
the resolutions going to fail, america blocked the introduction of 'permament'

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speng31b
May 8, 2010

Al-Saqr posted:

I dunno it's calling for an immediate ceasefire that must become a permanent ceasefire, and the immediate removal of all obstacles to bringing in unlimited aid, so the genocide will stop but by handing back the hostages it removes alot of cards Hamas has unless israel has to withdraw from gaza as well.

more importantly what happens if Israel just does what they always do and ignore it and do whatever they want anyhow

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