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Starting mana stacker ball lightning hiero, looks interesting and I haven't done a mana stacker before.Frank Frank posted:Yeah I'm stumped. I wanted to run some sort of deadeye build with good single point damage but apparently that doesn't exist anymore. Now I have no idea and I'm running out of time to pick something. I may end up just sitting this league out again if I can't figure something out. Completely open to suggestions. You could try inquisitor RF, I think the "preferred" starter is chieftain, but I know you don't like swapping characters and starting inquisitor lets you respec into hiero mana stacker RF later, which scales forever.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:31
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Won't be posting my numbers cause I'm sure I made a simple mistake somewhere, but on the off chance I didn't, I'm mathing PBoD to be about ~52% the DPS in 3.24 vs. 3.23 in my old build. Half the damage of a frankly obscene skill will still be really good, but it'll prob be felt the most at lower investment. Also the activation rate change might make it feel worse than it looks on paper. Still, might keep that as a backup option in case my other ideas fall through.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:33
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Traitorous Leopard posted:Won't be posting my numbers cause I'm sure I made a simple mistake somewhere, but on the off chance I didn't, I'm mathing PBoD to be about ~52% the DPS in 3.24 vs. 3.23 in my old build. Half the damage of a frankly obscene skill will still be really good, but it'll prob be felt the most at lower investment. Also the activation rate change might make it feel worse than it looks on paper. Still, might keep that as a backup option in case my other ideas fall through. From what i’ve seen penance brand of dissipation ate a ~68% nerf. It’s still a decent spell though.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:35
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Traitorous Leopard posted:Won't be posting my numbers cause I'm sure I made a simple mistake somewhere, but on the off chance I didn't, I'm mathing PBoD to be about ~52% the DPS in 3.24 vs. 3.23 in my old build. Half the damage of a frankly obscene skill will still be really good, but it'll prob be felt the most at lower investment. Also the activation rate change might make it feel worse than it looks on paper. Still, might keep that as a backup option in case my other ideas fall through. Might not be a bad single target four link or six link if you go staff. Not gonna play it again though. Edit: I feel like if you went all in on cast speed it'd feel good. Some kind of weird necro corpse thing.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:36
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whypick1 posted:https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/absolution-necromancer-build-guide Yeah, I found that and some other older ones. I feel like I've had bad luck with ghazzy builds in past but it was probably user error.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:36
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Also, I legit expected to see more ice nova of frostbolt builds. I know it kind of plateaus late game, but even then its pretty cool and fun
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Mar 25, 2024 17:37
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Frank Frank posted:Yeah I'm stumped. I wanted to run some sort of deadeye build with good single point damage but apparently that doesn't exist anymore. Now I have no idea and I'm running out of time to pick something. I may end up just sitting this league out again if I can't figure something out. Completely open to suggestions. bleed bow gladiator
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Mar 25, 2024 17:39
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External Organs posted:I keep wondering about necro holy relic chaos but I can't figure out what attack skill to use to proc it. Maybe a 4 link dom blow? Cyclone was way to do it before, but that may change with the new trans gem.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:47
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Having never seriously run a minion build, I'm considering trying Zoomancer this league. It seems pretty close to my ideal summoner playstyle if there is one (minions everywhere; complete chaos). My main hesitation is that it (like all summoners, AFAIK) runs AG, which seems like pure pain if it manages to die. I also think Rue's CoC DD build looks very comfy and I may suggest that for my friend who I'll be playing with. What's the current state of Pohx's RF? Is it still as chill and reliable as ever?
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Mar 25, 2024 18:13
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Pohx's does not appear to have had an existential crisis like he did with the 3.23 patch notes (in fact he's working on the 3.24 version right now). Still good.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:16
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RF seems fine for getting casually through red maps if that’s what you’re looking for. Might not be enough dps for doing new T17s comfortably without heavy investment though.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:20
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whypick1 posted:Pohx's does not appear to have had an existential crisis like he did with the 3.23 patch notes (in fact he's working on the 3.24 version right now). Still good. It was cArn’s turn this league but i think he’s mostly recovered. Fubgun’s existential crisis will come a couple days in when he realizes LA doesnt scale like TS did
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Mar 25, 2024 18:22
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Setec_Astronomy posted:Having never seriously run a minion build, I'm considering trying Zoomancer this league. It seems pretty close to my ideal summoner playstyle if there is one (minions everywhere; complete chaos). My main hesitation is that it (like all summoners, AFAIK) runs AG, which seems like pure pain if it manages to die. AG pretty much never dies mapping. it's generally only a potential issue in the league mechanic(No idea for this particular one of course) or I've had it die randomly in blight ravaged maps. It's also like 10 chaos to replace in ghazzy's zoomancer build so not a big deal. You could also just not run it, or run it with random trash off the ground and see if it dies doing your content, it probably won't.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:25
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wemgo posted:It was cArn’s turn this league but i think he’s mostly recovered. Sir Moustache also had a low-key identity crisis...or that's just how the computer generated English voice sounds, 50/50.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:28
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alternatively i played guardian srs last league start and AG would randomly die like once a day, and remaking it each time was so frustrating i respecced and rerolled
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Mar 25, 2024 18:29
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M. Night Skymall posted:AG pretty much never dies mapping. it's generally only a potential issue in the league mechanic(No idea for this particular one of course) or I've had it die randomly in blight ravaged maps. It's also like 10 chaos to replace in ghazzy's zoomancer build so not a big deal. You could also just not run it, or run it with random trash off the ground and see if it dies doing your content, it probably won't. Alright, maybe this actually will be the time I commit to full minion degeneracy. Any feedback on the Zoomancer build in particular? Per Ghazzy's description it sounds like a build that works well at league start but scales well with high investment.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:29
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whypick1 posted:Pohx's does not appear to have had an existential crisis like he did with the 3.23 patch notes (in fact he's working on the 3.24 version right now). Still good. He even recorded a new act 1-10 full play through as a chieftain. He seems pretty chill about the whole thing. Stux posted:alternatively i played guardian srs last league start and AG would randomly die like once a day, and remaking it each time was so frustrating i respecced and rerolled Yeah I had this happen with my SRS necro and also rerolled. It's not just the cost, it's the loving around trading for a full new set of gear each time
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Mar 25, 2024 18:40
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Animated weapon of ranged arms nerco is completely op and didn’t get hit by the SRS nerf You can also play it as guardian. You can also do regular animated weapon They are very good !! I will probably do animated weapon guardian as a starter You just lingering blades from somewhere early euphronius fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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Mar 25, 2024 18:43
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Stux posted:alternatively i played guardian srs last league start and AG would randomly die like once a day, and remaking it each time was so frustrating i respecced and rerolled yeah, I didn't play an AG build last league, and it seems like a lovely league for it TBH because the wisps scale the rares to stupid levels. Setec_Astronomy posted:Alright, maybe this actually will be the time I commit to full minion degeneracy. I played SRS during ToTA and didn't have any of the AG issues other people seem to have, died once or twice in blight ravaged maps so I stopped bringing it to those, and it could die in the league mechanic but just didn't bring it to that. I'm not saying it's hassle free but it's not that big a deal, the other problem with SRS is that the harder the thing you're fighting the more you need your AG to apply temporal chains to do actual damage, but for zoomancer losing elemental weakness is probably not the end of the world and you can just run without it.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:53
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euphronius posted:Animated weapon of ranged arms nerco is completely op and didn’t get hit by the SRS nerf Can confirm, before my league was cut short my ranged arms necro was punching way above her weight. Only problem is the playstyle is jank, because you summon the drat things one at a time. Not a problem once you get your initial flock and just need to animate two or three at a time to keep them going, but it noticeably slows down the start of each map.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:59
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Animated weapon and hexblast are meta what a time to be alive RIght, rutibex? 
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Mar 25, 2024 19:13
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Can confirm, before my league was cut short my ranged arms necro was punching way above her weight. Worth it for their power . And also after you summon them you don’t press buttons for awhile Also unlike SRS they are convocated
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Mar 25, 2024 19:15
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Erulisse posted:Animated weapon and hexblast are meta FTFY
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Mar 25, 2024 19:20
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Erulisse posted:Animated weapon and hexblast are meta A goon ahead of their time
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Mar 25, 2024 19:23
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I have been wanting to play animate weapon for a long time but it has always been bad
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Mar 25, 2024 19:34
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You can automate AW spawn on AG with chains of command. This works well and makes AW stupid good and easy and all that jazz with hands off experience of true minion build but it requires a voidforge on the AG whypick1 posted:FTFY 11/10 post ngl I spat my drink on my monitor
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Mar 25, 2024 19:39
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Considering going with the newly buffed Power Siphon of Archmage. I suspect mana stacking gear will be more expensive this league, but I don't trade too much if I can avoid it. I doubt the new wisp support will work with totems, so maybe I'll try the old reliable Trickster for nice on kill sustain. Then again I did play KBofF int stacking trickster last league, but wands are fun. Int stacking and chasing specific influence mods wasn't very fun, but I don't think I'd need to do that. A common Piscator's Vigil would probably do quite well. New chieftan shield crush could be good, and probably simple with just like jugg armor stacking.
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Mar 25, 2024 19:41
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Thinking of trying chaos BAMA, I'm sure +influence corpses won't be cheap/common if they even exist, but it might be possible to make some real sicko poo poo off necropolis-only bow/quiver affixes that aren't triggers, and making a basic bow should be pretty doable, even if hitting on DoT mods might be harder than going for generic phys/chaos hit. I was reading that Blink/Mirror arrows share cooldowns but that doesn't really make much sense as to why you'd roll with both, did they mean they share cooldown reduction methods like the bow mastery (which I know they do)? so you want to use both for 2x the minions? Stux posted:alternatively i played guardian srs last league start and AG would randomly die like once a day, and remaking it each time was so frustrating i respecced and rerolled My AGs never ever die unless I actually blow actual currency on them past the cheapo setups, then I get cocky about over-juiced content and lose them within ~2 days
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Mar 25, 2024 19:58
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M. Night Skymall posted:yeah, I didn't play an AG build last league, and it seems like a lovely league for it TBH because the wisps scale the rares to stupid levels. i wasnt even touching wisps yet, they were just getting blown away by regular stuff
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Mar 25, 2024 20:06
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This is what keeps me from doing minions. I don't want to gently caress with specters or AG. So I'm like, Reaper??? But he sucks
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Mar 25, 2024 20:09
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A guardian with just like Dying Breath and Leer Cast is amazing and they are like 1c . Use some chest and southbound gloves. There Spectres are a pita
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Mar 25, 2024 20:14
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Witch got new voicelines, so witch it is. Will have to see what skill tho.
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Mar 25, 2024 20:19
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Yeah I want to play a witch to start for the lines as well. Thinking frostblink ignite to start, and then maybe manaforged arrows mana stack for build 2 once the basic mana stacker stuff calms down.
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Mar 25, 2024 20:30
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euphronius posted:A guardian with just like Dying Breath and Leer Cast is amazing and they are like 1c . Use some chest and southbound gloves. There it wasnt the cost it was the hassle of having to stop what i was doing to go and build a new one. also the price was almost a downside bcos who is actually leaving a map to sell something for 1c, i had to spam ping like 10 ppl each time to get each part. yucky
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Mar 25, 2024 20:34
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External Organs posted:This is what keeps me from doing minions. I don't want to gently caress with specters or AG. This is always what has kept me from it as well. I thought specters had been improved somewhat? Isn't there a thing now where desecrate in your hideout will make corpses of your previous specters? Still annoying to have to go back to hideout, admittedly. Stux posted:it wasnt the cost it was the hassle of having to stop what i was doing to go and build a new one. also the price was almost a downside bcos who is actually leaving a map to sell something for 1c, i had to spam ping like 10 ppl each time to get each part. yucky Later in the league I'll actually search for people selling this kind of stuff for 5-10c instead. The chaos doesn't matter at that point and people are way more likely to respond.
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Mar 25, 2024 20:44
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Stux posted:it wasnt the cost it was the hassle of having to stop what i was doing to go and build a new one. also the price was almost a downside bcos who is actually leaving a map to sell something for 1c, i had to spam ping like 10 ppl each time to get each part. yucky If you don’t want to wait or spam set the min price to like 5c (or even 10c later in the league) and sort by recently listed. You can catch people in their hideouts
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Mar 25, 2024 20:47
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Deki posted:Thinking of trying chaos BAMA, I'm sure +influence corpses won't be cheap/common if they even exist, but it might be possible to make some real sicko poo poo off necropolis-only bow/quiver affixes that aren't triggers, and making a basic bow should be pretty doable, even if hitting on DoT mods might be harder than going for generic phys/chaos hit. I used blink for movement and mirror for "summon a clone to damage from this spot". Also poison bama was fun and made campaign/early maps easy and fast as gently caress
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Mar 25, 2024 20:50
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I'm going  mind turn off mode and play RF for the first time ever.Looking forward to PoEs version of a walking simulator!
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Mar 25, 2024 20:57
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euphronius posted:If you don’t want to wait or spam set the min price to like 5c (or even 10c later in the league) and sort by recently listed. You can catch people in their hideouts yup. or i can play a sane build not designed by the biggest freaks ever created: minion/pet mains
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Mar 25, 2024 21:19
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For folks looking at build ideas, Palsteron released a pretty cool vid yesterday highlighting Kitava's Thirst as an interesting option with the reworked Archmage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JikQFnLCBuo I'm particularly interested in a new BF/BB v2 setup as that one was pretty fun back in the pre-3.15 days. The helm could even automate BF so it's down to a 1-button build (basically)
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