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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

TulliusCicero posted:

There is no world where Trump loses the WH and the GOP gains the Senate

Like that is loving insane

The GOP has been getting dumpstered in votes since 2022, there is no reason to see that trend changing

I see no course correction that will prevent the GOP from getting dumpstered, and more of their voters die every day

we will see. I think it will be by 1 or something though.

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Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



jokes posted:

the courts dont think he can pay the $450mm and they want to hear the appeal. cases have to go to the trial court first and then hit appeals but almost always the appellate courts have more ego, and it's very important to them that everyone listens to them. also a ruling in appeals court carries more "weight", and more often than not appellate courts rule don't overturn or anything

Thanks for an actual answer instead of “because rich white man” (which is true but not helpful).

Follow up: why the hell did they wait until the absolute last second, and could truomp have had advance notice of this and that’s why he was doing fake awards last night and acting unbothered?

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

HKR posted:

lmao its real

Yeah, I had to check. Pretty much :perfect:

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1772354558339006533

:lol:

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Hazo posted:

Thanks for an actual answer instead of “because rich white man” (which is true but not helpful).

Follow up: why the hell did they wait until the absolute last second, and could truomp have had advance notice of this and that’s why he was doing fake awards last night and acting unbothered?

they probably wanted to be sure he couldn't pay it. Ideally he could just pay it so they could start writing their opinions and have their egos stroked, but he couldn't (or wouldn't, though it doesn't matter). If he couldn't post, they wouldn't get their chance to be in history

Courts are very, very aware of timing and deadlines and are very, very aware of how powerful a few days can be to make a fucker sweat and they also have internal processes to get poo poo done so they probably worked hard over the weekend to get everything done right on their end. this is why its annoying when lawyers don't play ball with judges because there's a lot of bureaucracy that happens in the background between counsel and the courts, but USUALLY this means that the litigants eat poo poo if they're not playing ball but, again, judges have big egos and very much would like to make a ruling on a trump case so they're more than willing so in THIS case they really wanted to make sure everything was clean and ready for the appeal

jokes fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Mar 25, 2024

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



TulliusCicero posted:

There is no world where Trump loses the WH and the GOP gains the Senate

Like that is loving insane

The GOP has been getting dumpstered in votes since 2022, there is no reason to see that trend changing

I see no course correction that will prevent the GOP from getting dumpstered, and more of their voters die every day

GOP, Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


InsertPotPun posted:

aren't there social media lobbyists? like facebook has to give a lot of money away right?

i guess it's like porn; i have no idea why these billion dollar companies aren't fighting back.

also it would be unequivocally a good thing to abolish social media.

Facebook, tiktok, most major ones already have it against their terms of service for children under 14 or 16 to have accounts and have for years, they didn't actually want kids on there

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.






this was from a while back and didn't get much replies but i laughed

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Hazo posted:

Thanks for an actual answer instead of “because rich white man” (which is true but not helpful).

Follow up: why the hell did they wait until the absolute last second, and could truomp have had advance notice of this and that’s why he was doing fake awards last night and acting unbothered?

If the pace of all the other stuff is anything to go by, the appeals court went crazy fast to get this decision in before the deadline.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

withak posted:

Her body language here is making me uncomfortable, has someone checked that she is ok?

Yeah I just talked to her she says she’s fine. She says she accidentally ingested a bunch of lip filler, apparently Don Jr injects her himself to save cash but he’s not very good at it.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Holy poo poo

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

mobby_6kl posted:

Holy poo poo

:piss:

ProfessorMarvel
Jan 6, 2021

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

weg posted:

Ok yeah he's definitely getting the money from a foreigner lmao

Happy banks! Deutsche Bank

Shishkahuben
Mar 5, 2009





twistedmentat posted:

I'm more worried that a bunch of the red states just give Trump their electoral votes ignoring the actual voting. Some states that won't matter, but some where like Ohio or Georgia, yea people would not be happy at all.

That didn't happen when trungo was the incumbent, when he had henchmen at every level of the system. They didn't have the audacity to pull the trigger when everything was lined up and their odds were as good as they'd ever be.

It's four years later, his cohorts have been purged (read:have been fired for incompetence through natural processes), he has no money and fewer prospects, and he's a deeply unpopular man hoping against hope for a miracle because he straight up doesn't have any mundane options. It was unthinkable that it would have happened in 2020, but impossible now.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





Apparently the Chud talking point now is this is a violation of the 8th amendment. lmao

RFC
Nov 3, 2002

That's funny because his twitch name is piss

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Shishkahuben posted:

he has no money and fewer prospects,

he has some amount of money between $0 and $450mm

We know he definitely doesn't have $450mm though lol

nobodygetshurt
Dec 11, 2007


:lmao: @dril has officially made it into high school history books in the future

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

congratulations to SA for getting donald trump elected and for getting biden to quote fyad posters

winterwerefox
Apr 23, 2010

The next movie better not make me shave anything :(

ianskate posted:

Can any of the legal minds here explain how the bond payment can be extended for more days at less money? I guess the stay itself is another ruling against the initial 30 days, so that cancels the first judgement? And if so, why wouldn't it just be an immediate requirement TODAY, considering the initial amount was much higher and supposedly due "now"? Logically at least that makes sense, but law-wise maybe it has to have stipulations dnd time as a new decision?


Side note:
Was really hoping for genuine lols today, and this judgement didn't deliver. F donald trump (many people are saying).

the judgement is still half a billion. the extension is "you had 30 days to find a 500$M bond to prevent assets being seized to cover your fines while you run through appeals. fine. we agree that forming a bond that high is too much, as selling assets to cover the appeal would be permanent harm should you be found not liable on appeal. give us a bond for 40% the total original judgement. when ten days pass, and you dont have this lower bond after 40 days after judgement to secure collateral, things move forward with asset seizure."

trump was asking for a bond about half what he was granted in the 80-90$M range, so...

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos

ianskate posted:

Can any of the legal minds here explain how the bond payment can be extended for more days at less money? I guess the stay itself is another ruling against the initial 30 days, so that cancels the first judgement? And if so, why wouldn't it just be an immediate requirement TODAY, considering the initial amount was much higher and supposedly due "now"? Logically at least that makes sense, but law-wise maybe it has to have stipulations dnd time as a new decision?


Side note:
Was really hoping for genuine lols today, and this judgement didn't deliver. F donald trump (many people are saying).

The appeals court mostly has free reign to stay disgorgement and other terms of the judgement, and modify some, including the bond requirement. See section c here.

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

TulliusCicero posted:

There is no world where Trump loses the WH and the GOP gains the Senate

Like that is loving insane

The GOP has been getting dumpstered in votes since 2022, there is no reason to see that trend changing

I see no course correction that will prevent the GOP from getting dumpstered, and more of their voters die every day

That very scenario would have happened in 2020 were it not for Warnock and Ossoff's narrow wins. I vividly remember people doomering on election night because in other Senate races that were supposed to be competitive, Dem candidates underperformed terribly.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Buck up, lads. Trump may have won this round but we’ll get him next time.

Burns
May 10, 2008

jokes posted:

he has some amount of money between $0 and $450mm

We know he definitely doesn't have $450mm though lol

The guy has made a life out of using other people's money. Who knows how much he has actually squirelled away somewhere. Its not that he cant pay, its that he hasnt found someone to foot the bill for him.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Dick Jones posted:

That very scenario would have happened in 2020 were it not for Warnock and Ossoff's narrow wins. I vividly remember people doomering on election night because in other Senate races that were supposed to be competitive, Dem candidates underperformed terribly.
Indeed, though I wonder about Florida

That said, the Dems are going to do actual gotv this year. In 2020 only the GOP did

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Dick Jones posted:

That very scenario would have happened in 2020 were it not for Warnock and Ossoff's narrow wins. I vividly remember people doomering on election night because in other Senate races that were supposed to be competitive, Dem candidates underperformed terribly.

The GOP has complete loons running this year

Roe V Wade's demise had not happened

January 6th had not happened

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Mar 25, 2024

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

winterwerefox posted:

the judgement is still half a billion. the extension is "you had 30 days to find a 500$M bond to prevent assets being seized to cover your fines while you run through appeals. fine. we agree that forming a bond that high is too much, as selling assets to cover the appeal would be permanent harm should you be found not liable on appeal. give us a bond for 40% the total original judgement. when ten days pass, and you dont have this lower bond after 40 days after judgement to secure collateral, things move forward with asset seizure."

trump was asking for a bond about half what he was granted in the 80-90$M range, so...

the funny part is that if they DO say there's permanent harm should he not be found liable on appeal, that is only really the case if he doesn't currently have the money -- he would need to sell assets to cough up the bond

so when he's running around saying he has $450mm IN CASH MONEY TODAY YES SIR it's especially awkward for this pivot

winterwerefox
Apr 23, 2010

The next movie better not make me shave anything :(

TulliusCicero posted:

The GOP has complete loons running this year

Roe V Wade had not happened

January 6th had not happened

the RNC and funding efforts were not decapitated by old guard GOP members leaving the party.

Accipiter
Jan 24, 2004

SINATRA.
Everybody in this thread before the trial was over: "He's going to have to front a percentage of the judgement to appeal."

Everybody in this thread after the trial was over: "He's going to have to front the entire judgement to appeal."

New York Appellate Court today: "You can front a percentage of the judgement to appeal."

Everybody in this thread today:

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

This alone clinches the vote amongst the “terminally online YouTube pol streamer” demographic, I bet even those hating on Biden over Gaza.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



winterwerefox posted:

the RNC and funding efforts were not decapitated by old guard GOP members leaving the party.
SCOTUS may also ban or restrict mifepristone this year just in case you’re wondering if people forget about Dobbs

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



Maybe some lols tomorrow?



DWAC was up 35% today because all the chuds are piling in.

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos
Here's the court order, by the way (PDF).

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I do kind of love people assume only YouTubers care about Gaza.

Kind of shows how out of touch goons have become

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

BigglesSWE posted:

This alone clinches the vote amongst the “terminally online YouTube pol streamer” demographic, I bet even those hating on Biden over Gaza.

:rolleyes:

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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cr0y posted:

Maybe some lols tomorrow?



DWAC was up 35% today because all the chuds are piling in.

Good, I look forward to them all holding the bag when he cashes out. I hope they lose everything.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Trump gonna try to shart sell

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

cr0y posted:

Maybe some lols tomorrow?



DWAC was up 35% today because all the chuds are piling in.

Teenage Mutant Trump GameStop?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



CharlestheHammer posted:

I do kind of love people assume only YouTubers care about Gaza.

Kind of shows how out of touch goons have become
That’s a way you could read that sentence, sure

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



steinrokkan posted:

Teenage Mutant Trump GameStop?

Trump MAGA Treason Group

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

forgot the Trump thread existed when it was remade, I'll bookmark it aga-


BigglesSWE posted:

even those hating on Biden over Gaza

oh

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