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Strong Sauce posted:So there's a bunch of subsets in Outlaws of Thunder Junction: OTJ Saw on reddit, that all OTJ and BIG cards are coming to arena, which has mana drain and stoneforge mystic. Betting drain is brawl and timeless only.
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What's with the cards that have the USS Kelvin underside as it's emblem?
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Mar 26, 2024 20:30
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Jiro posted:What's with the cards that have the USS Kelvin underside as it's emblem? they were going to have a miniset like Aftermath again, but it failed so hard that that's no longer happening. that said, they already had all these cards designed and intended to be in the standard environment, so they're going to be in the set proper despite being "a different set." they're BIG for "the big score" and are all brand new cards representing things that were in this magical vault that oko and co broke into and unleashed there's some clumsiness now b/c those cards are on top of what outlaws already was going to have: - a bonus sheet (the "breaking news" cards that are all reprints that can commit crimes, like thoughtseize, mana drain, and original flavor oko) - cards from The List™ (reprints that are themed to this set and are meant to bolster the draft environment; idk if we have any of these revealed yet but MKM's list had Syr Konrad and Mentor of the Meek) - the small subset of The List™ called Special Guests™ (chase reprints with brand new art of potentially VERY powerful cards) we already have the full set of special guests for outlaws:  already on arena: brazen borrower, brazen borrower, morbid opportunist, scapeshift new to arena: stoneforge mystic, mystic snake, notion thief, desert, prismatic vista new to arena AND (edit: also aren't currently modern legal, which isn't changing lmao oops): desertion, port razer flatluigi fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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Mar 26, 2024 20:39
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drat, this one is really cool. Fine on turn two but can turn a corner quickly, going from playing D to beating down very quickly.
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AngryBooch posted:drat, this one is really cool. Fine on turn two but can turn a corner quickly, going from playing D to beating down very quickly. so is plot like foretell but for free?
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Mar 26, 2024 20:43
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ilmucche posted:so is plot like foretell but for free? You pay the Plot cost, and then you cast the spell as a sorcery on a later turn, but it's also face-up while Foretell is hidden. So essentially yes.
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ilmucche posted:so is plot like foretell but for free? fortell was always pay 2 generic to put it into exile and a variable cost to then cast it from exile (on a later turn). plot is a variable cost up front, but always free to cast from exile (not just on a later turn but also only as a sorcery). fortell was also hidden information, while the cards you're plotting are revealed it's close thematically to foretell, but i think plot is going to feel a lot better to play with & there already seems to be quite a few cards in the set that are going to benefit from not just playing free spells but also playing cards from somewhere other than your hand
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Mar 26, 2024 20:49
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 ...Now I want a Mega Man UB set... 
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flatluigi posted:they were going to have a miniset like Aftermath again, but it failed so hard that that's no longer happening. that said, they already had all these cards designed and intended to be in the standard environment, so they're going to be in the set proper despite being "a different set." they're BIG for "the big score" and are all brand new cards representing things that were in this magical vault that oko and co broke into and unleashed Just FYI the only List cards from this set are the special guests and the big score. The Big Score cards took the slots that normal list reprints would otherwise have as part of the Aftermath Mitigation strategy. From the collecting article, it looks like they end up being more common than the List slot was in MKM - MKM was 1/64 SPG out of a total of 1/8 List (so 7/64 non-SPG), here it's 1/64 SPG out of a total of 1/5 (so 59/320 BIG).
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newershadow posted:Just FYI the only List cards from this set are the special guests and the big score. The Big Score cards took the slots that normal list reprints would otherwise have as part of the Aftermath Mitigation strategy. From the collecting article, it looks like they end up being more common than the List slot was in MKM - MKM was 1/64 SPG out of a total of 1/8 List (so 7/64 non-SPG), here it's 1/64 SPG out of a total of 1/5 (so 59/320 BIG). ah, that makes sense i do think i would've really enjoyed to see mesa enchantress in a cowboy hat or whatever they would've decided would be on the list, but there's always the cannonball run set a few more down the line
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Mar 26, 2024 21:01
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4 mana green creatures are getting BIG
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Mar 26, 2024 21:05
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Is Colossal Rattleworm a Tremors reference or am I reading too much into that? Specifically, being a surprise (flash) if you're in a desert.
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Judgy Fucker posted:Is Colossal Rattleworm a Tremors reference or am I reading too much into that? I mean. There's also this little book called Dune that popularized the concept of giant sandworms that appear without warning a few years before Tremors. (It's a common trope for weird desert monsters, what more can I say?)
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Lurks With Wolves posted:I mean. There's also this little book called Dune that popularized the concept of giant sandworms that appear without warning a few years before Tremors. Yeah, I mean Dune was right there, but seeing as this set is American West-flavored and not Arabian Peninsula-flavored that's why my mind went to Tremors. I suppose the obvious thing to conclude is Tremors got it from Dune.
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Mar 26, 2024 21:21
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When they make a card called colossal assblaster, you'll know it's a Tremors reference.
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It's also just a big rattlesnake, a desert ambush hunter. Flash because it has camouflage, and trample instead of deathtouch because it's a big wurm and not a small snake. It doesn't feel too much like a Graboid or Shai Hulud to me.
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Mar 26, 2024 21:25
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Still hoping Kaervek gets a new card.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Still hoping Kaervek gets a new card. he was in the story so it's honestly pretty likely
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I await the return of duel decks beginning with Outlaws vs. Adventurers (party matters)
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 Vault, Standard Legal. edit- Oops, missed this one on the last page since it was posted with the other 3 variants GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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With Spree can you activate a mode more than once if you have the mana or is it only a "you can do one of those or all of these, once only"
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Mike N Eich posted:With Spree can you activate a mode more than once if you have the mana or is it only a "you can do one of those or all of these, once only" You can choose any of them, once, but you don't have to choose all of them. Also I didn't watch the stream but, going along with the Topor Orb flavor text, they confirmed the thing in the vault Jace stole was a Fomori, so we're finally gonna learn about them I guess. Been a loooooooong time since Future Sight. 
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Mike N Eich posted:With Spree can you activate a mode more than once if you have the mana or is it only a "you can do one of those or all of these, once only" Any number of them, but only once each.
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GonSmithe posted:You can choose any of them, once, but you don't have to choose all of them. we learned stuff about the fomori in LCI, if you missed that story. i don't remember the details enough about it to fully summarize but they had a plane-spanning empire and were the ones to attack ixalan's core aeons ago as a sort of colonizing force
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Kellan/Halo UB Crossover Coming Soon!
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I'm assuming that you can also choose "none" of the additional costs or effects ? For whatever edge case that may incentive it? Otherwise, it's just split cards w/ fuse again
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I'm assuming that you can also choose "none" of the additional costs or effects ? For whatever edge case that may incentive it? You cannot. You have to chose one minimum.
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I'm assuming that you can also choose "none" of the additional costs or effects ? For whatever edge case that may incentive it? since we're just coming off of MKM and its collect evidence mechanic, it's worth noting that split cards have a very high mana value but these spree cards are MV 1 for all that's worth but yeah, it's mostly the same thing. the templating for spree does let them make much more complex cards than a split card, at least
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Seems good
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how far up is rakdos on the "mythic cards featuring this" list? for non-planeswalkers, anyways
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Did they say how Spree interacts with Cascade and Discover?StrugglingHoneybun posted:I'm assuming that you can also choose "none" of the additional costs or effects ? For whatever edge case that may incentive it? They're literally just blank without one of the choices.
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Aphrodite posted:Did they say how Spree interacts with Cascade and Discover? This is exactly what I'm wondering. Like, even if you can't cast a Spree for its 'base cost', does it count as that base cost for the purposes of mining the library for a specific cost? As for the set, I actually feel kinda bad that I'm not really interested mostly for aesthetic reasons. It's knocking it right out of the park in terms of mechanics, and they're nailing the 'wild west' theming... but the wild west theming is such a nothing to me that I'm only interested in these cards as 'oh hey it's a Kamigawa dude'.
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When you cast a spell with an additional cost without paying it's cost you still pay these additional costs. So when you Cascade into a spree you'll get a chance to pay those costs. Also at least one additional cost on a spree is mandatory, like sacrificing a land to harrow
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Lol, poor black removal
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Why are people so excited about perennially unplayable Pongify?
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A 3/3 (especially back when Pongify was in Standard) is actually a pretty big creature that still generally needs answering itself, while a 2/2 just incidentally trades with an Emperor token or whatever.
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Back in my day, we played beat within and liked it.
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So the great train heist is a combat doubler that I can put on an isochron scepter, you say...
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It's alright but when will this ever go in a deck when Fateful Absence is legal?
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