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Kalit posted:Isn’t it 4 of 5? The only one I’m aware of who isn’t a known rapist is Obama. jesus what a snipe for this thread. deleting. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bel Shazar posted:jesus what a snipe for this thread. deleting. every time I step into this thread, I am neither surprised nor delighted , yet my disappointment deepens in ways I didn't realize was possible there's so much apologist bullshit going on in the name of chin scratching discourse to where I really feel and think there's a serious issue with empathy at its root If a group of people have been dehumanized for a long time, while another has been elevated in the meanwhile, it's not surprising to see this Yet it still stays in the same stuck position and never changes, so even the few admirable posters who actually seem to give a poo poo tend to move to the background the others keep clinging to the same dull narrative with no changes of their own so yeah I think this thread sucks overall unfortunately. wasted opportunity . (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Seems like the UN has had it with Israel. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/3/26/israels-war-on-gaza-live-world-welcomes-un-ceasefire-resolution quote:A spokesman for UN chief Guterres has rejected US claims that the UN Security Council resolution on Gaza was not binding under international law.
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quote:"And if Israel is not going to implement it, then it is the duty of the Security Council to use Chapter 7 to take measures, and punitive measures, in order to make them obey the resolution of the Security Council."
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Irony Be My Shield posted:You may have noticed the issue with this - there'd have to be another vetoable Security Council vote to actually decide and implement any measures. This resolution is obviously a strong signal to Israel from the US but it would need to withhold its veto on another vote for there to be any actual consequences. Technically they can call an emergency session for when it's just literally one of the permanent security council member refusing to avert a crisis. Expect some bullshit.
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They can, and indeed already did in December. The results of an emergency session aren't binding however.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:They can, and indeed already did in December. The results of an emergency session aren't binding however. Non binding and non meaningful are different, especially considering that a ceasefire has now passed the security council with the 'i can't believe it's not a veto'. A recommendation on the resolution can't be binding but shows what other members will not actively oppose as measures in achieving the goal. If they all agree in principal to sanctions or other measures then members can pursue them independently. I hope the US isn't suicidal enough to explode it's own economy in the coming mess.
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Nucleic Acids posted:Content Warning: https://twitter.com/MiddleEastMnt/status/1771870105884065888 Funny in about the darkest way imaginable to go "you think the media wouldn't report on Israel's crimes?"
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quote:"So they are as binding as international law is." (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-welcomes-gaza-ceasefire-vote-at-united-nations-security-council-joly-1.6821412 Canada continues to link the ceasefire to Hamas laying down their arms. Hamas is not explicitly named in the resolution but the resolution does mention releasing all hostages. One wonders whether all the Palestinians that Israel holds are considered hostages or not since they use a quasi-judicial cover story for that. Canada's foreign policy continues to suck rear end.
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There is a movement in the US state of Wisconsin to do what Michigan did, and vote for "Uninstructed Delegate" on the Democratic presidential primary ballot. "Uninstructed Delegate" is the closest option the primary ballot has to "Uncommitted". My understanding is that the purpose of this movement is to send a "loving do something to stop the genocide in Palestine already" message to Biden. Here's a source explaining the movement in more detail: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/what-the-uninstructed-movement-means-for-wisconsin-voters-biden-s-chances/ar-BB1ky0xK Hilary lost Wisconsin in 2016. Wisconsin was a battleground state in 2020, and Biden won by a little over 20,000 votes. The Wisconsin primary is April 2nd. Wisconsin has an open primary - any voter can choose to vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary (but not both primaries in the same election), no matter what their party affiliation or registration is.
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https://twitter.com/Bsamuels0/status/1772335085246611803 Can't possibly do anything to stop giving Israel money and weapons, of course, so despite Israel transparently not complying with the requirements it gets rubber stamped quote:"These assurances are prospective, but of course our view of them is informed by our ongoing assessments of Israel's conduct in the war in Gaza," Miller continued.
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Technically they can call an emergency session for when it's just literally one of the permanent security council member refusing to avert a crisis. Expect some bullshit. Can't see the UK agreeing to that if the Americans tell them not to.
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Piell posted:https://twitter.com/Bsamuels0/status/1772335085246611803 How can we believe that Biden is putting pressure on Israel to stop the genocide when the state department says a genocide isn't being commited?
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Man the State Department is lucky Koos clarified that genocide denial isn't against D&D rules otherwise they'd all be banned!
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Now that I'm back, I loving expect an apology from the mods for that probation reason. I have not nor will I ever advocate for genocide. But what I will do is continue to state my well founded belief that nothing short of overwhelming and targeted use of force and the destruction of the Israeli state will stop this genocide. It takes a mind especially drunk on Zionist propaganda and Israeli exceptionalism to say sure it took the judicious use of violence to stop the Nazis, Rhodesia, Apartheid South Africa , and Bosnia under Milosivic' b-b-but plucky little Israel is different. Additionally, it is in no way shape or form a call for genocide to advocate that the state of Israel as it exists today be swept into the dustbin of history anymore than it was to call for the same for the Nazis, Rhodesia, Apartheid South Africa, or Milosivic's regime. If you the mods of this forum think otherwise then make your argument here and we can debate it in good faith, but baselessly accusing someone of advocating for genocide is beyond the pale. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Inferior Third Season is still mourning the state genocides committed against the Third Reich, Rhodesia, Austria-Hungry, and Yugoslavia (understandable) have some respect. I would be helpful in the OP to clarify that while genocide isn’t against the rules (rad!) genocide is also seemingly defined here as a destruction or imposed reform of a nation-state and that “well sourced” means “Anthony Blinken pulled it out of his rear end in a top hat.”
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Let's check in on the Israeli knesset: https://twitter.com/ME_Observer_/status/1772726637139828838
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Looks like Israel is trying keep up its war on UNRWA in an increasingly desperate manner: UNRWA textbooks were pivotal in radicalizing generations of Gazans — watchdog
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khwarezm posted:Looks like Israel is trying keep up its war on UNRWA in an increasingly desperate manner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Institute_for_Monitoring_Peace_and_Cultural_Tolerance_in_School_Education (Multiple authors in the talk page quoted) quote:It is very important to determine whether this organization is affiliated with Israel or is independent in order to assess it's worth as a reliable source on the subject of Palestinian educational texts. To determine whether such an affiliation exists I have been trying to find information on CMIP/IMPACT:SE's location, staff, leadership, funding and structure. This information has been very difficult to uncover. And why has it changed its name after only a few years of existence? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes cat botherer fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Of loving course a blood-drenched homunculus like Pipes is still around. with no larger GWOT going, he needs something to keep his death-doner going. What other Bush-era ghoul are we bringing back? Is Richard Perle still around? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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small incident given the incredible suffering currently being inflicted on gazans, but another aid drop got people killed, with an estimate that 12 people drown trying to retrieve aid which was dropped in the sea seems like most of the victims didn't know how to swim but were desperate for food and ended up going out into heavy surf with strong currents
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:small incident given the incredible suffering currently being inflicted on gazans, but another aid drop got people killed, with an estimate that 12 people drown trying to retrieve aid which was dropped in the sea .....hm. Hadn't considered that as a source of problems, tbh. The military probably should have. Reminds me, I need to check on how that Spanish (?) convoy is going / went.
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Goatse James Bond posted:.....hm. Hadn't considered that as a source of problems, tbh. The military probably should have. It's not the first time the US military has done air drops... there's zero chance nobody considered that there are risks (eg from failed parachutes) and it should be relatively common knowledge that starving populations will absolutely risk life to get to food if it's dropped unsafely near them. The worst aspect of all of this is that the US admin could simply tell Israel to let aid in *and compel them* to distribute it, as is their legal responsibility. All these people killed by incompetence and a desire for crap PR in order to provide a paltry number of MREs.
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Hong XiuQuan posted:It's not the first time the US military has done air drops... there's zero chance nobody considered that there are risks (eg from failed parachutes) and it should be relatively common knowledge that starving populations will absolutely risk life to get to food if it's dropped unsafely near them. I mean this literally happened a few weeks ago. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/08/middleeast/gaza-airdropped-aid-deaths-intl/index.html The US denied it of course. Edit: The US-led draft resolution that was vetoed by Russia and China last week is now available here. It's pretty terrible. It starts out by condemning Hamas, all the rapes Hamas definitely did, and how Hamas uses civilian infrastructure for military purposes, i.e. it just repeats Israeli propaganda. It spends time calling Hamas terrorists and saying they don't represent the Palestinians. It urges member states to try to suppress funding to Hamas. It doesn't actually demand a ceasefire, it instead says that a ceasefire is important, and that the UN should support international diplomatic efforts to achieve one, and points to the hilariously terrible "give us all the hostages for a 6-week ceasefire" deal Egypt and Qatar have been pushing for. It also links the idea of a ceasefire to the release of hostages by saying that the UN should work to secure a ceasefire in connection with the release of all remaining hostages. It mentions the UNRWA, but only to talk about investigating them. Condemns the Houthis. Emphasizes that the two-state solution should happen, and that the Palestinian Authority comprador government should rule. There is no explicit mention of Israel's crimes, unlike all the bad things Hamas did. Israel is barely mentioned in the document. I'm not surprised this was vetoed. Esran fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Meanwhile in Germany... https://twitter.com/derJamesJackson/status/1772929438205759982 Pro-peace Jewish group being given the Nazi treatment.
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It's okay, they're the 'wrong kind' of Jews. So this is fine in the eyes of Israel and her allies. Desirable even.
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Let's see what Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories, has to say these days... https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTy9Db6/ Edit: Here's the link to the report itself. https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ahrc5573-report-special-rapporteur-situation-human-rights-palestinian Quantum Cat fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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It appears that the genocidal American empire is not responding well to the Rapporteur's findings and to no one's surprise have chosen to slander them from the podium as an anti-Semite. https://twitter.com/tparsi/status/1773067834081390666
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France and Germany have also called her antisemitic. She has previously contended that Frances accusation that Oct 7th was the single greatest antisemetic massacre of the century was incorrect, as the victims “not killed because of their Judaism,” but rather “in reaction to Israel’s oppression.” Which they claim is an antisemitic remark.
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Quantum Cat posted:Let's see what Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories, has to say these days... Thank you for the link to the actual report, you can't watch tiktoks without an account and I didn't really feel like making one. It might help in the future to also just do a pull quote for people who are unlikely to follow the link, so I'm going to block quote the summary here: quote:After five months of military operations, Israel has destroyed Gaza. Over 30,000 Palestinians have been killed, including more than 13,000 children. Over 12,000 are presumed dead and 71,000 injured, many with life-changing mutilations. Seventy percent of residential areas have been destroyed. Eighty percent of the whole population has been forcibly displaced. Thousands of families have lost loved ones or have been wiped out. Many could not bury and mourn their relatives, forced instead to leave their bodies decomposing in homes, in the street or under the rubble. Thousands have been detained and systematically subjected to inhuman and degrading treatment. The incalculable collective trauma will be experienced for generations to come.
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What in the world would it take for the Biden fucks to admit it's a genocide? I'm guessing there is no line.
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Nail Rat posted:What in the world would it take for the Biden fucks to admit it's a genocide? I'm guessing there is no line. Asking an entire ruling class to take on an enormous narcissistic injury like this is just a non-starter. It’s absolutely never going to be on the table. Too many Ivy League people raised to never admit fault and never break ranks. What would the incentive be to do it? To be a good person? We’re so far past the point there would be any positive outcome for anyone to do this in the current status quo.
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Nail Rat posted:What in the world would it take for the Biden fucks to admit it's a genocide? I'm guessing there is no line. Once every Palestinian is dead and it's too late for anyone to demand they do anything to prevent it. They are ideologically required to deny it now because they are active participants in it.
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Marenghi posted:In ten years they'll have a democrat President say 'we genocided some folks'. It’s this. Just like with the Iraq war and the forever wars in a couple decades the libs will have a mealy mouthed explanation of how they were actually always against the things Israel did, really. It will, of course, be far too late to actually do anything about it by the time they do this
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Marenghi posted:France and Germany have also called her antisemitic. She has previously contended that Frances accusation that Oct 7th was the single greatest antisemetic massacre of the century was incorrect, as the victims “not killed because of their Judaism,” but rather “in reaction to Israel’s oppression.” Which they claim is an antisemitic remark. It's not clear why I or anyone else for that matter should give a single fig about what the wretched Vichy ghouls who are still raping Africa or the ideologically inbred heirs to the third Reich have to say on the matter. Quantum Cat fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Anyways have yet another instance of the IDF forcing Palestinians at gunpoint to serve as human shields for their armored units. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTyEMeX/
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Quantum Cat posted:Anyways have yet another instance of the IDF forcing Palestinians at gunpoint to serve as human shields for their armored units. Can you stop making GBS threads up the thread with tiktok videos/etc because you're throwing a hissy fit over your previous probation? It would be nice if D&D mods started actually enforcing rules in this thread.... And yes, obviously I know I'm hypocritical by breaking D&D rules with this post. But this thread has somehow been even worse than normal recently... Kalit fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Oh so that's why the IDF never has infantry shielding their armor.
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