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Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

I liked durge better, but it would have been annoying without knowing the game already. the dev recommendation to play custom before durge is good imo.

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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Saraiguma posted:

monk Karlach is really good and turns op as poo poo (more so than a regular oh monk) if you drop a coin in the jukebox

Jukebox in reference to monk Karlach's machine heart is like a triple meaning score.

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Shard posted:

Do y'all prefer playing as non origin tav or dark urge? I'm going through a tav game on PS5 but I feel the pull to durge and I wondered what y'all's preferences are

As a bigtime fan of the old games, I thought Dark Urge was exceptional :)

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Zodium posted:

I liked durge better, but it would have been annoying without knowing the game already. the dev recommendation to play custom before durge is good imo.

yes, this too! Tav def has their place

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


wizard2 posted:

As a bigtime fan of the old games, I thought Dark Urge was exceptional :)

I am curious about a Durge playthrough but I am 140 hours into this game on my first playthrough and I think by the time I'm done I think I will be totally exhausted with it. This game is going to end up longer for me than Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 and Throne of Bhaal put together. The game is really rear end-heavy, rushing you through act 2 and then giving you a gigantic bloated third act where your character no longer grows except to acquire increasily hilariously OP gear, tbh they talk about ditching high level D&D gameplay because it's too imbalanced, but then they then do a pale recreation by gearing you up with all sorts of +2s and +3s and totally insane enchantments (like the Armor of Persistence which basically makes purpose-built tanks indestructible) that rival end-BG2 and Throne of Bhaal poo poo that was handed out to level 18+ characters. BG3 would have be improved if they either cut much of the third act or just thrown the idea of perfectly balanced encounters to the wind, made the level camp 18 or 20, and rolled out the Power Word: Kill and Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting.

God, I loved Horrid Wilting in BG2, it would have been so much fun to see it with gruesome dessication animations in BG3, and it gave a serious way for necromancer specialists to just delete groups of mobs in a school that had otherwise pretty unimpressive AoE damage spells.

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 27, 2024

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Shard posted:

Do y'all prefer playing as non origin tav or dark urge? I'm going through a tav game on PS5 but I feel the pull to durge and I wondered what y'all's preferences are

You're missing huge chunks of the story not playing durge. I don't personally see a reason to tav more than once unless you're going for a lawful goody 2 shoes no fucky wacky lore runs

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Shard posted:

How come Ao is cool with the dead three getting super involved with the mortal planes to the point of their avatars coming out in this game?

And if he ain't cool with it he doesn't seem to do much about it

In universe the Dead Three gave up a lot of their godly power in exchange for being allowed to meddle more directly with the mortal world.

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

You know I was going to say Minsc doesn't have a tadpole then I realized he does and now I'm wondering why I've never used him. Hmmm.

Guess that'll be my 47th playthrough or something.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

I’ve had this game since day of launch and finally forced myself to slog through the act 3 side quests. good lord this game has some cool set pieces. and full penetration! I only did the one love scene that the plot lets you do at the start of act 3 so that was a pretty big surprise

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

LifeLynx posted:

Sorry Karlach, but I got Minsc and Boo and there's only room for one and one-tenth I guess comic relief character in my party.

Karlach isn't comic relief, she delivers some of the most serious lines in the whole game. Made me tear up twice!

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time

Tonetta posted:

You're missing huge chunks of the story not playing durge. I don't personally see a reason to tav more than once unless you're going for a lawful goody 2 shoes no fucky wacky lore runs

Some people think the game flows better when there isn't a running commentary under every interaction talking about how much the PC wants to snap the other person's neck or wondering what their intestines look like.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

BRASIL HEXA
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Goa Tse-tung posted:

Karlach isn't comic relief, she delivers some of the most serious lines in the whole game. Made me tear up twice!

otoh 'loving wizards, man' is the funniest line in the game

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I like playing as Tav better. Dark Urge has a lot of story and narrative connection to the main villains especially in Act 3 but it’s more fun to actually play the game and make decisions as Tav since there’s more room for individual expression.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

resist durge could be a good first play I guess, but if you played durge first and indulged any urges without knowing about the people you're murdering you're going to end up causing a mess and not know it. thinking about one act 2 event in particular.

Cool Post Beg
Mar 6, 2008

DADDY MAGIC

Screaming Idiot posted:

Minsc takes no BS, that's why he has Boo and not boobs.

Lmao

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*
I personally think it's very cool that you can just accidentally shutter dozens of hours worth of gameplay as it means decisions matter & it adds to the replay value of the game. You would have a hard time getting the story to play out the same way twice even with committing save scumming crimes.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Shard posted:

How come Ao is cool with the dead three getting super involved with the mortal planes to the point of their avatars coming out in this game?

And if he ain't cool with it he doesn't seem to do much about it

Technically the dead three have the status of "quasi-deities". While most of the other gods were forced to take a bit of a step back after the Second Sundering and cease manifesting directly on Faerun, the Dead Three didn't want to do that so Ao essentially trapped them in their avatars without immortality, ala the Time of Troubles. So they can interfere as much as they want, but if someone actually kills their avatars they're gone forever.

Now you might ask doesn't that mean that when you kill the Avatar of Myrkul he's just flat out dead and the party killed a god and uh, yes it does, technically. That doesn't seem to be how BG3 understands it (based on Withers telling them off) but I believe it is what the situation should be based on the other established lore.

Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011
BTW I've just spent a little time in act 2 and drat, getting the toll collector to kill themself and then the surgeon to have his nurses 'practice' on him is incredibly funny. I have to say, playing as a charismatic bard-rogue is definitely the right pick, for a hilarious 'chaotic good' run. Everyone is being helped out whenever possible, but I absolutely will get bad guys to kill themselves whenever I can! :D (That or shove them into pits, if the option presents itself) Hopefully I can keep BSing my way through what should be major events - since this is pretty great

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

Wish you could have an army of zombie nurses following you like ducklings. Come on ladies, that guy's dead, no reason to stick around any more.

Dragonwagon
Mar 28, 2010


And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Woolie Wool posted:

Hope Lae'zel is happy with her prince having tentacles then because there's nothing Karlach does that Barbarian!Minsc doesn't do better and funnier.

He won't finger your butthole

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Dragonwagon posted:

He won't finger your butthole

That's what Mage Hand is for.

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Lobok posted:

That's what Mage Hand is for.

No, thread! Bad! I doff my robe and wizard hat and leave this magical realm posthaste!!!

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Lobok posted:

That's what Mage Hand is for.

"I am a Myrmidion from the realm of Air, all powerful and mystical, and I am at your command. For what purpose have you summoned me?"

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Dragonwagon posted:

He won't finger your butthole

Already had wizard sex with Gale on the astral plane so that's taken care of

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Randallteal posted:

Some people think the game flows better when there isn't a running commentary under every interaction talking about how much the PC wants to snap the other person's neck or wondering what their intestines look like.

Guessing it's because I did the "resist" branch but I didn't find the Durge murder fantasy stuff TOO intrusive. Those options must pop up more often if you're leaning into it?

I did my first run as Tav and second as resist durge and really liked that flow. It's the same broad strokes story but from a very different perspective. It helped keep things fresh. My only complaint was that the Resist storyline didn't really pick up til the very end of act 2 in the mind flayer colony. Other than forcing you to murder Alfira :rip:

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Tonetta posted:

I personally think it's very cool that you can just accidentally shutter dozens of hours worth of gameplay as it means decisions matter & it adds to the replay value of the game. You would have a hard time getting the story to play out the same way twice even with committing save scumming crimes.

so right now I'm doing an evil Astarian run while romancing Minthara. In act 3 my party is just 6 folks, and I already plan to hand over Shadowheart to her mom superior, and I am going to kill the stone lord which will take another member out. Also the first thing I did was steal the idol and that took care of the grove. I was able to get through Act 1 and 2 very quickly. When you know what you're doing you can really be-line through stuff.

Also the Underdark has two different sections you don't have to do. I mean technically you don't have to do any of it but it affects stuff in the third act so I do a little.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

I like playing as Tav better. Dark Urge has a lot of story and narrative connection to the main villains especially in Act 3 but it’s more fun to actually play the game and make decisions as Tav since there’s more room for individual expression.

It's the canonish storyline but honestly it really does force you into a box from a honest role playing perspective. "Some guy/gal" can also be pretty compelling too or any of the origin characters.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/baldursgate3/status/1772977642632794206

https://twitter.com/larianstudios/status/1772977820974588212

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

Major Isoor posted:

BTW I've just spent a little time in act 2 and drat, getting the toll collector to kill themself and then the surgeon to have his nurses 'practice' on him is incredibly funny. I have to say, playing as a charismatic bard-rogue is definitely the right pick, for a hilarious 'chaotic good' run. Everyone is being helped out whenever possible, but I absolutely will get bad guys to kill themselves whenever I can! :D (That or shove them into pits, if the option presents itself) Hopefully I can keep BSing my way through what should be major events - since this is pretty great

LOL, we played the same character mate. :v:

E: Finished the game last night at last, been avoiding the thread. What a beautiful ride.

Sword Bard 8/Fighter 4 Durge, Resist (initially was going in, then decided I wanted to push against it), saved the Grove, sided with Gortash (you know, aside from his terrible choice in allies and being a smug prick, did Gortash do much actually wrong? - I felt like Karlach's story only exists to villainise him), killed Orin, released Orpheus, stole the contract & killed Raphael (best moment of the game, imo, but final battle was nowhere near as good), Wyll & Karlach going Back To Hell - This Time It's Personal was amazing, didn't let Gale blow himself up, etc.

I feel like Primary Class 8/Secondary Class 4 is probably the sweet spot for everyone; There's very little benefit to 12 in anything really apart from Wizard/Sorc, and even that's debatable, and the only exception was Minsc who ended up Monk 9/Rogue 3 for the Bonus Action.

Shockeh fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Mar 27, 2024

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

I would love to know what is going on with the code for containers that requires 5 new fixes in every hot fix lol. It’s obviously a disaster that needs to be rewritten but ain’t nobody got time to redo basic game systems after launch. So it gets endless bandaids

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Shockeh posted:

LOL, we played the same character mate. :v:

E: Finished the game last night at last, been avoiding the thread. What a beautiful ride.

Sword Bard 8/Fighter 4 Durge, Resist (initially was going in, then decided I wanted to push against it), saved the Grove, sided with Gortash (you know, aside from his terrible choice in allies and being a smug prick, did Gortash do much actually wrong? - I felt like Karlach's story only exists to villainise him), killed Orin, released Orpheus, stole the contract & killed Raphael (best moment of the game, imo, but final battle was nowhere near as good), Wyll & Karlach going Back To Hell - This Time It's Personal was amazing, didn't let Gale blow himself up, etc.

I feel like Primary Class 8/Secondary Class 4 is probably the sweet spot for everyone; There's very little benefit to 12 in anything really apart from Wizard/Sorc, and even that's debatable, and the only exception was Minsc who ended up Monk 9/Rogue 3 for the Bonus Action.

Karlach should have slit your throat while you slept

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.

Shockeh posted:

Gortash (you know, aside from his terrible choice in allies and being a smug prick, did Gortash do much actually wrong? - I felt like Karlach's story only exists to villainise him)

Uh, the guy whose explicit goal was to implant mind-control parasites in every person in the world and force them all to be his slaves forever?

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Mzbundifund posted:

Uh, the guy whose explicit goal was to implant mind-control parasites in every person in the world and force them all to be his slaves forever?

Hey now, he had robots. Robots are cool.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Yeah but they were racist murdery robots

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

bird with big dick posted:

Yeah but they were racist murdery robots

Yes, we know they were built to be cops.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Screaming Idiot posted:

Hey now, he had robots. Robots are cool.

Those robots killed a little girl

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Yeah play however you want but if you think Gortash did nothing wrong you must have skipped a lot of content lol.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
They're not even real robots! They're just more tadpoles! What a scam.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Gortash's biggest sin is having such a lame god form though. It's one of the few elements of the game that feels underbaked, because you would have thought the concept artists would have gone nuts at the chance to design something like that

mycot fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Mar 28, 2024

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Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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gortash had a god form? when i fought him all he had was a bunch of home alone traps and a force field

then karlach threw him through a table, dudley boyz style

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