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From a foreigner: is it considered acceptable to discuss the Troubles? I assume there's a wide gap between some foreigner saying "up the RA" to simply ignoring it happened altogether. EDIT: Horrible loving snipe, I must apologize.
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PT6A posted:From a foreigner: is it considered acceptable to discuss the Troubles? I assume there's a wide gap between some foreigner saying "up the RA" to simply ignoring it happened altogether. I have the triple threat of autism, an interest in political history, and I grew up on the border so I always "enjoy" answering questions about it. I do think the average Irish person doesn't actually know a huge amount about the topic so milage may vary.
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Mar 28, 2024 04:21
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Not going to talk on behalf of everyone else, but don't mind Troubles talk in any way personally. Speaking of which, guess who was a naughty boy back in the 70s: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/xkbwldvmb5/exposed-the-secret-army
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Mar 28, 2024 05:06
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PT6A posted:From a foreigner: is it considered acceptable to discuss the Troubles? I assume there's a wide gap between some foreigner saying "up the RA" to simply ignoring it happened altogether. It's a period of history. The only way you'll understand it is to ask questions. So don't feel bad about asking about it.
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Mar 28, 2024 09:53
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If you wanted to be more informed before that discussion you could read Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keeffe which I think is a good primer for non-Irish on the Troubles. But really you don't need to do homework before chatting to people, as long as you aren't too strident in your opinions
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Mar 28, 2024 10:05
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PT6A posted:From a foreigner: is it considered acceptable to discuss the Troubles? I assume there's a wide gap between some foreigner saying "up the RA" to simply ignoring it happened altogether. I would rather have someone discussing it than shouting catchphrases without context.  I was born & raised in it but only marginally affected by it.
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Mar 28, 2024 12:04
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happyhippy posted:Not going to talk on behalf of everyone else, but don't mind Troubles talk in any way personally. So that's not Gerry standing beside Martin with his back to camera in a brown cord jacket looking thing as the bomb car drives off?
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Mar 28, 2024 14:50
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Failed Imagineer posted:If you wanted to be more informed before that discussion you could read Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keeffe which I think is a good primer for non-Irish on the Troubles. But really you don't need to do homework before chatting to people, as long as you aren't too strident in your opinions Yeah, bear in mind a lot of people had a relative beaten to death on the street in front of the RUC who did nothing except have a laugh about it. If they start getting arsey, apologise and be prepared to listen to a big, long grievance.
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Mar 28, 2024 14:51
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PT6A posted:From a foreigner: is it considered acceptable to discuss the Troubles? I assume there's a wide gap between some foreigner saying "up the RA" to simply ignoring it happened altogether. if you're discussing it with e.g. a west belfast taxi tours driver then the likelihood is you're talking to someone who was a... troubler i'd just be careful about asking for too much detail lol
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Mar 28, 2024 15:26
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Oh, it bears mentioning the British government talked insane idiot poo poo for, well, pretty much the entire thing. "The IRA need help with bombs" "It's just a few people" "This is an acceptable level of violence" See also the rebuttal "If the Orange Order want to march so badly, let's see them insist on marching through Crossmaglen."
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Mar 28, 2024 16:34
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Rather lucky being a Southerner born in the late Eighties, that my only two big memories of the Troubles were Omagh and Good Friday. It feels like I'd only just become aware of the whole thing and it was over. Didn't stop me learning about Internment and the hooded men and the Miami Showband and a whole heap of the rest but I always feel its not my place to talk about it. Ask me about Partition or the Civil War or something like that and I'll go on.
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Mar 28, 2024 18:22
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crispix posted:they have taxi tours in belfast that show you all troubles stuff Is that better? I did a walking tour when I was in Belfast
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Mar 29, 2024 00:40
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well yeah it's better, you don't have to walk :/
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Mar 29, 2024 01:39
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i've never actually been on one because i'm from near belfast and well same way cockneys probably don't go on jack the ripper tours, eh
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Mar 29, 2024 01:40
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Small White Dragon posted:Is that better? I did a walking tour when I was in Belfast
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Mar 29, 2024 09:10
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crispix posted:i've never actually been on one because i'm from near belfast and well I don't live in Ireland (or NI), but in general, I think many people don't partake of the touristy stuff near their hometown.
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Mar 29, 2024 10:27
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That Italian Guy posted:I did one years ago while visiting Belfast and it was ok, although quite a bit depressing as you can imagine. I guess it comes down to the person running the tour as well. I've been avoiding the many famine tours down here for this very reason.
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Mar 29, 2024 10:36
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Small White Dragon posted:I don't live in Ireland (or NI), but in general, I think many people don't partake of the touristy stuff near their hometown.
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Mar 29, 2024 11:04
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Arquinsiel posted:The second I moved to London I failed to do all the things I liked doing when visiting. Local fun laziness is definitely a common problem. Never seen Giant's Causeway and the damned thing is twenty or so miles from me... going from pictures & vids the similar formation in Iceland looks better. 
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Mar 29, 2024 12:07
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Just Another Lurker posted:Never seen Giant's Causeway and the damned thing is twenty or so miles from me... going from pictures & vids the similar formation in Iceland looks better. It's small but alright, not that expensive or anything if you avoid the upselling
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Mar 29, 2024 12:12
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Just Another Lurker posted:Never seen Giant's Causeway and the damned thing is twenty or so miles from me... going from pictures & vids the similar formation in Iceland looks better.
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Mar 29, 2024 12:26
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https://x.com/AmandaFBelfast/status/1773632046390202509?s=20 https://x.com/JamieBrysonCPNI/status/1773679464276246737?s=20 61 year old DUP Jeffrey Donaldson has deleted all his social media accounts. Make of that what you will.
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Mar 29, 2024 13:18
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Ulster ignores a no?
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Mar 29, 2024 13:36
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Sky news confirming https://news.sky.com/story/dup-leader-sir-jeffrey-donaldson-suspended-13103753 Makes sense, always useful to make sure the politicians you install are easily blackmailable.
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Mar 29, 2024 14:08
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Just Another Lurker posted:Never seen Giant's Causeway and the damned thing is twenty or so miles from me... going from pictures & vids the similar formation in Iceland looks better. It's not really worth seeing unless you're a tourist and it's on your checklist. The clifftop walks around it though are fantastic on a good day.
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Mar 29, 2024 14:24
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Whaaaat
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Mar 29, 2024 15:31
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Lol as gently caress. Wonder if the DUP will even pretend to care?
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Mar 30, 2024 01:15
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:It's not really worth seeing unless you're a tourist and it's on your checklist. The clifftop walks around it though are fantastic on a good day. Is this a joke, the Giant's causeway is loving awesome.
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Mar 30, 2024 01:29
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khwarezm posted:Is this a joke, the Giant's causeway is loving awesome. It's a bunch of worn-down rocks gatekeepered by a tourist trap centre and the best bit is closed off to the public because of the valid concern of coastal erosion. The clifftop walks are amazing, far better than stomping around a bunch of hexagonal stones. The north and east Antrim coast is one of my favourite places. If I was recommending the Causeway to anyone I'd tell them to park up in Portballintrae and walk the beach and coastal path from there and give the Causeway a miss. And also avoid Jeffrey Donaldson if they see him. Seems he might be a bit of a wrong'un.
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Mar 30, 2024 02:32
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I think you may be underestimating how weird those rocks looks like to someone who has never seen them in person before. I mean, it's a natural landmark, not the Louvre; but it's a nice stop if you are taking any kind of tourist tour of the area.
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The causeway is overrated. The drive there and stuff around there very much underrated.
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Brass Hand posted:The causeway is overrated. The drive there and stuff around there very much underrated. I like the nearby shaky bridge that simulates the experience of imminent death
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The wife and I went to the Giants Causeway one year around Christmas. It was pretty good. Really worth seeing in person. The information centre next to it that they trier to sell you into going to see sounded like a rip-off so we didn't do that. And I think we just paid to park at someone's nearby farm instead of at the visitor centre since that was much cheaper.
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quote:In a statement, the DUP said: "The party chairman has received a letter from Sir Jeffrey Donaldson MP confirming that he has been charged with allegations of an historical nature lmao
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Mar 30, 2024 15:16
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That Italian Guy posted:I think you may be underestimating how weird those rocks looks like to someone who has never seen them in person before. I mean, it's a natural landmark, not the Louvre; but it's a nice stop if you are taking any kind of tourist tour of the area. The Giant's Causeway is a grand day out where you can marvel at a bizarre and unnatural looking geological formation, and other oddities like the Giant's boot along picturesque Antrim coastline. I'd thoroughly recommend it to anyone who has a passing interest in geology. Maybe I'm just a weirdo, but I'd certainly put it in my list of things for foreigners to see in Ireland along with: -Newgrange -The Rock of Cashel -King John's Castle -Clonmacnoise -Birr Castle -Cliffs of Moher -The National Museum -Skellig Michael And probably a bunch of miscellaneous activities people can do in places like Belfast and Dublin like the Guiness Brewery or Titanic tour, if they are into that kind of thing. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Mar 30, 2024 15:16
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I liked going to the post office and the gaol. I would have loved to see more Connolly related things in the rising museums.
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khwarezm posted:The Giant's Causeway is a grand day out where you can marvel at a bizarre and unnatural looking geological formation, and other oddities like the Giant's boot along picturesque Antrim coastline. I'd thoroughly recommend it to anyone who has a passing interest in geology. On that list I'd add the Dark Hedges. It's near the Giant's Causeway, and it's the location from Game of Thrones that the called the King's Road. Its free to visit and is a lovely area of natural beauty. There is probably a bunch of Game of Thrones locations worth visiting in NI.
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Mar 30, 2024 15:58
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Why is it called Dark Hedges?
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Shoehead posted:Why is it called Dark Hedges? Probably because they naturally formed into a tunnel which made the area underneath shaded. https://visitbelfast.com/article/game-of-thrones-filming-locations-belfast-northern-ireland/
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honestly what is wrong with you if you don't find rocks that look like that interesting
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