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Apricots went to a lot of trouble to avoid crossing the Alps.
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I love when words migrating between languages end up absorbing the definite article from one of them.
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Mar 30, 2024 21:22
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I also enjoy that when they did cross the alps directly they presumably did it as the word "precocious"
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Mar 30, 2024 21:29
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Guavanaut posted:Apricots went to a lot of trouble to avoid crossing the Alps. I heard an unsourced description of the word for 'egg' moving from Old English to Norse to Russian to Japanese, and then to English as "ikura." Having a hard time googling the text -- any truth to it?
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Mar 30, 2024 21:53
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Not as far as I know, the words "egg" and "eyren" are both in use at the same time in english and "Ei" is the german for egg.
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Mar 30, 2024 21:56
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Bring back æg.
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Mar 30, 2024 22:06
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Groda posted:I heard an unsourced description of the word for 'egg' moving from Old English to Norse to Russian to Japanese, and then to English as "ikura." The Russian source of ikura, ikra, apparently comes from the Proto-Indo-European word for liver, which is mildly interesting
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Mar 30, 2024 22:08
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Groda posted:I heard an unsourced description of the word for 'egg' moving from Old English to Norse to Russian to Japanese, and then to English as "ikura." There’s a reason that’s an unsourced description you’re having a hard time finding anything about. Also wiktionary is generally pretty good for stuff like that. Maybe not always reliable, but definitely better than "a friend of mine had a friend who told him this once."
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Mar 30, 2024 22:10
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REO Speedwagon would never have found out about the messin' around from wiktionary though.
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Mar 30, 2024 22:22
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bring bank norange. orange can still be the colour tho.
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Mar 30, 2024 22:50
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dear nordic countries, please get cooler names
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Mar 30, 2024 23:50
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Russia is also land of Swedes because Rus is Finnish for Swede and Russia was founded by Rúrik who was Swedish and the locals probably got their word for Swede from their Finnish neighbours. . Belarus is just White Russia.
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Mar 31, 2024 00:19
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FreudianSlippers posted:Russia is also land of Swedes because Rus is Finnish for Swede and Russia was founded by Rúrik who was Swedish and the locals probably got their word for Swede from their Finnish neighbours. - alternate history carl gustaf explaining why he had to launch the special military action to conquer Big Eastern Sweden in 2022
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Mar 31, 2024 00:22
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No self-respecting Finn would call their country using a germanic title. The English need to learn to pronounce "Suomi", if anything!  (fake edit: "Suomi" stands for "????")
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Mar 31, 2024 00:27
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Suomi stands for Swamp/Bog (Suo) It's Bogland.
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Mar 31, 2024 00:31
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FreudianSlippers posted:It's Bogland. I will apologize on behalf of English speakers and refer to Bogland correctly in the future
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drk posted:I will apologize on behalf of English speakers and refer to Bogland correctly in the future We thank thee and accept, o painted one
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Mar 31, 2024 00:42
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Nobody ever gives Romania poo poo for not having a Rome, this is discrimination.
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Mar 31, 2024 00:46
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drk posted:dear nordic countries, please get cooler names What's with the question mark? It's a stone. Yeah?
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Mar 31, 2024 00:55
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FreudianSlippers posted:Russia is also land of Swedes because Rus is Finnish for Swede and [Russia was founded by Rúrik who was Swedish and the locals probably got their word for Swede from their Finnish neighbours. You're about 5 centuries off on when Russia was actually founded.
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Mar 31, 2024 01:26
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I mean sure the Mongols technically invented Russia but the basis of the name is still Rúrik.
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Mar 31, 2024 01:33
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FreudianSlippers posted:I mean sure the Mongols technically invented Russia but the basis of the name is still Rúrik. That's going to far in other direction: Mongols shattered the lands of Rus, and when Moscow rose to the top of the remnants they claimed right to rule all of the successors (I think it's reasonable to associate that with Ivan III). That's what the true meaning of "Russia": it's an imperialist land grab (and one very relevant to the day).
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Mar 31, 2024 01:40
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FreudianSlippers posted:
My favorite drink if I'm only having one drink.
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OddObserver posted:That's going to far in other direction: Mongols shattered the lands of Rus, and when Moscow rose to the top of the remnants they claimed right to rule all of the successors (I think it's reasonable to associate that with Ivan III). That's what the true meaning of "Russia": it's an imperialist land grab (and one very relevant to the day). Still means Swede-ia.
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Mar 31, 2024 01:52
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FreudianSlippers posted:Still means Swede-ia. Guavanaut posted:Bring back æg.
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Mar 31, 2024 05:10
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If it's cheese Danish, I'm in favor
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Mar 31, 2024 05:15
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Being an imperialist land grab just settles it. Russia being Swedia predates Sweden as a state.
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Mar 31, 2024 05:28
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Also Rus' doesn't descend from a term meaning Swede, at least as well as we can tell (which is poorly). More likely it comes from a term for rowers, hence the map and possibly the Finnish term as well.
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Mar 31, 2024 05:38
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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drk posted:dear nordic countries, please get cooler names Algeria just straight-up lying to us.
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EasilyConfused posted:Algeria just straight-up lying to us.
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Mar 31, 2024 06:33
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Just call every people not of your tribe 'barbarians', easy, efficient and egalitarian. Naturally the heterogenic and diverse nature of your exceptional and unique tribe doesn't eliminate the problem completely when you still have to do subdivisions to differentiate the friendly brewer family next door, annoying cheese makers by nearby forest and those shady hill people with their stupid goats but it helps in international relations when dealing with outsider peoples.
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Mar 31, 2024 07:41
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EasilyConfused posted:Algeria just straight-up lying to us. Algeria is named after the city of Algiers, which used to have a bunch of just-barely offshore islands, which got connected to the mainland by… the Ottomans? The French? Anyway people have been connecting little offshore islands to the mainland for thousands of years. See: Tyre, Tabarka, Algiers. Not see: all those little Spanish islands just off the coast of Morocco. Algiers is a little bit weird because you can’t look at it and obviously tell where the islands used to be, unlike Tyre and Tabarka.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Russia is also land of Swedes because Rus is Finnish for Swede and Russia was founded by Rúrik who was Swedish and the locals probably got their word for Swede from their Finnish neighbours. Hey now, Finno-Ugric speakers were local too and according to Primary Chronicle, the reason Rurik came to power in the first place was because infighting Slavic and Finnic tribes invited him and his brothers to be neutral arbiters and rulers who could unite the lands and bring peace.
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Saladman posted:Algeria is named after the city of Algiers, which used to have a bunch of just-barely offshore islands, which got connected to the mainland by… the Ottomans? The French? Oh, I see the world’s shortest land border at Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera, formed by a storm in 1930. 
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SlothfulCobra posted:What's with the question mark? It's a stone. Yeah? Question mark = "We are too scared of getting stabbed by Yugoslav nationalists to put forward our theory" Also I looked up the source for "Czech = Army" because it's obviously wrong, and apparently it comes from "četa (army unit) -> čechy", which seems... very novel and imaginative. I wonder how many of the other etymologies used on the map are wrong.
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"Deutsch(land)" comes from diot/diutisc, which means "people/of the people". Germany was once thought to come from the germanic "ger", for spear (as in Rutger/Roger/Rüdiger, "famous spear-fighter"), but is more likely a celtic exonym, meaning neighbour or screamer. Alemannia means something like "all kinds of people", probably because it was conglomerate of several tribes uniting for war. France goes back to the germanic Franks, whose name meant something between avaricious, ambitious and brave. goethe42 fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Mar 31, 2024 |
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I’m also not sure where the burn thing for Switzerland should come from (and if it should be related to Swiss or helvetic)
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Mano posted:I’m also not sure where the burn thing for Switzerland should come from (and if it should be related to Swiss or helvetic)
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Platystemon posted:Oh, I see the world’s shortest land border at Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera, formed by a storm in 1930. The worlds shortest single segment of land border. The total length of land border between Morroco and spain is 18.5km  That's over 10 times longer than Canada's land border with Denmark.
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Okay, I'm bad at knowing weird borders, where does Canada have a border with Denmark, and is Spanish Morocco still a thing, they didn't give it back?
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