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Which season of Doctor Who should get a Blu-ray set next? This poll is closed. |
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| One of the black-and-white seasons |
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16 | 29.63% |
| Season 7 |
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7 | 12.96% |
| Season 11 |
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1 | 1.85% |
| Season 13 |
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0 | 0% |
| Season 15 |
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2 | 3.70% |
| The Key to Time |
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21 | 38.89% |
| Season 21 |
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0 | 0% |
| Season 25 |
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7 | 12.96% |
| Total: | 54 votes | ||
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Open Source Idiom posted:Is this bit from one of the RTD finales? It's from the Day of the Doctor!
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Mar 30, 2024 18:26
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I just like how practically every image I've seen of the Doctor from the timeless child episode is her having to angle her head awkwardly to stare at some thing.
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Mar 30, 2024 18:52
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Just thinking about that episode makes me angry all over again. It’s just such a mess.
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Mar 30, 2024 19:25
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Jerusalem posted:tl;dr - The Timeless Children is a bad episode of Doctor Who and Chris Chibnall was a bad showrunner. Neither of those are easy to dispute. (I wonder if they're even possible to dispute.) The Timeless Child idea is just bonkers, but potentially GREAT bonkers. The Doctor's past is all made up, and we know we don't really know the half of it, and the Timeless Child idea addresses not just the Morbius faces but also Seven's "more than just a Time Lord" and if Chibnall had pulled this off, it'd be like Holmes and The Deadly Assassin: enraging fans of the show at the time, but being pivotal in a few decades and reconsidered. He didn't pull it off. In fact, the episode is a complete mess. Worse, it's a complete mess with more potentially good ideas than most of Chibnall's whole run. Seriously, The Battle of Kan't Be Bothered is such a total failure and it arguably has between one and two ideas which it totally wastes. As a season ender, this one has so many more totally wasted ideas! Even if we just think along thematic lines: humans hiding inside Cybersuits while an insane Cyberman tries to roboticize the Cybermen, until he's comedy-killed by the Master for being boring; a retcon of the Time Lords that takes the show's past hints that their "non-interference" policy came after a lengthy period of being massive British-like colonial imperialists across Space and Time, with the Doctor herself as someone exploited and gaslit who finally turned against them and rejected them repeatedly after that point; the "Cyber-Lords" as a way of thematically reconceptualizing these new "regeneration-stealers" as an organic version of the Cybermen who "muzzzt survive," and who should have their personalities back and immediately turn on the Master for being so colossally stupid as to bring them BACK; the Doctor discovering a hidden secret about her past that briefly incapacitates her until her other selves remind her of the difference between what the Time Lords tried to make of her, and what she made and still makes of herself... there's probably one or two more ideas in there as well. If you set about trying to write a story that squanders the potential contained in these ideas, well, you'd have to be really skilled to do that as well as Chibnall does here. I have a sneaking suspicion that RTD has a plan to redeem this whole mess, and it seems likely it has to do with myth becoming real earlier than we think it did, but we'll see. It's clear that he loves this episode for knocking down the sandcastle and leaving him with the challenge of rebuilding it afresh; what's less clear is how much he loves the central concept behind it. I will say this: I like this explanation of how the Doctor has more than 12 regenerations more than Moffat's decision to deliberately put Eleven at the end of the cycle and then "save" him via the Time Lords. That wasn't just bullshit, it was obvious and uninteresting bullshit, stacked on top of the "I saved Gallifrey and should look for it but never actually will" subplot that he introduced for no good reason whatsoever. At least Chibnall took a big swing here. If every one of these episodes had this level of ambition, he might have gotten lucky and had a fantastic episode or two in amidst the wreckage.
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Mar 31, 2024 01:04
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https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774428938942521412
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Mar 31, 2024 14:50
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I liked the Time Lords saving Eleven, and I also liked Eleven being his last regeneration - it seemed fitting. It also made Twelve's insecurity and identity issues make plenty of sense in hindsight. Ten-2 counting as a whole regeneration was a bit eye roll but I did laugh at the explanation
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Mar 31, 2024 15:01
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Episode 1 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774421389421765059 Episode 2 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774428938942521412 Episode 3 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774436488085643718 Episode 4 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774444037413482910 Episode 5 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774451587085144512 Episode 6 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774459136710729780 Episode 7 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774466686130716964 Episode 8 https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774474235752157656 Infinitum fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 31, 2024 |
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Mar 31, 2024 15:59
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Infinitum posted:Episode 3 is 'Boom'. Written by Moffat. Directed by Julie Anne Robinson Oh lol, Moffat's actually doing his script where The Doctor spends the entire story stuck on a landmine.
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Mar 31, 2024 16:02
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Moffat had an interview a little while back where he responded to a question about him writing for the show with "if I say anything about Doctor Who it goes round the world like boom". He also said he wasn't being evasive but just refrained from comment because saying he's not writing for Doctor Who "doesn't exactly bring joy to the world". So the question is, who is writing the next Christmas special? Barry Foster posted:I liked the Time Lords saving Eleven, and I also liked Eleven being his last regeneration - it seemed fitting. It also made Twelve's insecurity and identity issues make plenty of sense in hindsight. Ten-2 counting as a whole regeneration was a bit eye roll but I did laugh at the explanation Regenerating a whole clone is a pretty valid reason to make it count towards the limit. I enjoy that the regeneration limit just comes up in casual conversation, not as some looming thing that needs to be resolved but as a fact of life. Everyone gets old and dies.
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Mar 31, 2024 16:23
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That is a lot of episodes written solely by Davies. I guess he's been saving up all of Doctor Who ideas.
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Mar 31, 2024 17:09
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2house2fly posted:I enjoy that the regeneration limit just comes up in casual conversation, not as some looming thing that needs to be resolved but as a fact of life. Everyone gets old and dies. Yeah exactly. Which is why I liked what happened with Capaldi. You've gotten elderly for the last time, you've really finally prepared yourself for real, actual, final death, you've had 900 years to make your peace with it - and then you get a whole new lifetime out of the blue, unasked for. That's going to cause some serious adjustment issues EDIT and although Capaldi's last episode was kinda bodged it did make sense that he wanted to Die die.
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Mar 31, 2024 17:31
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 Interesting title reuse Wonder if the story will be similar too
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Mar 31, 2024 17:34
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So full episode title list is out RTD apparrently has been chomping at the bit with 6 of the 8 episodes written by himself. (Add in the recent specials and that's 10 of 12 episodes!) Moffats back for an ep! Kate Herron is the Director of every ep of Loki S1, so that ep should be interesting to see.
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Mar 31, 2024 17:39
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Vinylshadow posted:
The last of The Darksmith Legacy was called "The End of Time" and it had nothing to do with the TV ep. And the Seventh Doctor Lost Story "Thin Ice" had the same title as a Twelfth TV story. Davros1 fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 31, 2024 |
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Mar 31, 2024 17:40
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Infinitum posted:Episode 1 I dig these little teaser dealios
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Mar 31, 2024 17:55
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‘Smith’ on the dance card for Rogue. 
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Mar 31, 2024 18:01
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I'd assumed that RTD's second era would consist of him finding young new talent and "audition" people who could take over as showrunner, but apparently he's feeling his oats on the first season at least
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Mar 31, 2024 18:04
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And finally the trailer. I am very very excited. https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1774481785235054806?t=hTbrctLQdejR4LLwK4TQwA&s=19
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Mar 31, 2024 18:13
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Still a little disappointed about only getting eight episodes. Would love a surprise announcement that each one is 70-90 minutes, but that won’t happen.
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Mar 31, 2024 18:13
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Considering how much of a scramble it seems to have been to get Doctor Who back into production, I can see why RTD went so hands-on. Hopefully next season will focus on widening the pool.
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Mar 31, 2024 18:14
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Widescreen! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwebgSJ60k
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Mar 31, 2024 18:16
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YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwebgSJ60k
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Mar 31, 2024 18:16
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This is a very beautiful trailer.
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Mar 31, 2024 18:18
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So nice we posted it twice! Looking like a destroyed Gallifrey in a few shots. And the Moffat landmine story looking legit Hoping that's part of the regular music tracks as well, it rules.
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Mar 31, 2024 18:21
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2house2fly posted:I'd assumed that RTD's second era would consist of him finding young new talent and "audition" people who could take over as showrunner, but apparently he's feeling his oats on the first season at least Is this a typo or just a [I can't remember the A word for colloquial turns of phrase] I am unfamiliar with.
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Mar 31, 2024 18:29
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He's backed up with stories and he's blowing his wad all at once
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Mar 31, 2024 18:35
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It's like when you've fed a horse a bunch of oats before a race so it has a lot of energy and confidence. Liked the trailer, Gatwa did a good job delivering the obvious Moffat line
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Mar 31, 2024 18:36
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Was that Rose (Noble) in UNIT?
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Mar 31, 2024 18:55
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Ohhh, thank you that makes sense. I was imagining someone with a huge hemp sack of quaker oats putting their hands in it and letting the oats run through their fingers, couldn't make heads or tails of what feeling grabbing raw oatmeal evokes lol
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Mar 31, 2024 18:57
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Moffat writing with RTD story-editing again is very exciting.
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Mar 31, 2024 19:11
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Thank ya. Looks fun! Very fun! New Doctor looks cool and fun. He appears to be having the time of his life. Ruby looks like a fun companion who I'm sure will last for many seasons. *cough*
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Mar 31, 2024 19:16
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I liked her and wish she was sticking around longer but the odds of me not also liking the next companion are like 5% so bring on the companions! To be honest with this era of baby seasons I'm sure I'll be wanting everything and everyone to stick around longer
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Mar 31, 2024 19:31
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The Doctor getting out of the Matrix using the power of archive footage in The Timeless Children really is the icing on the cake. And I like it when sometimes the faces of the classic Doctors are shown to say "yep, this is the same character", like that really neat bit of editing in Smith's first episode. Aren't the Sisterhood of Khan also Time Lords? They should be fine, even with Chibnall's awful "The Master somehow genocided the race of Time Lords somehow" handwave. Unless there's some major twist, looks like we're waiting until the season after for 15 to meet the daleks.
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Mar 31, 2024 23:14
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Infinitum posted:So full episode title list is out Perhaps more than any time in Doctor Who history, this season is going to be one person's vision of the show. Succeed or fail, it's all on Davies. Khanstant posted:I liked her and wish she was sticking around longer but the odds of me not also liking the next companion are like 5% so bring on the companions! Next companion is a teenage boy who's very good at math...
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Mar 31, 2024 23:19
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Random Stranger posted:Perhaps more than any time in Doctor Who history, this season is going to be one person's vision of the show. Succeed or fail, it's all on Davies. Chibnall wrote literally every episode of Flux.
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Mar 31, 2024 23:33
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RTD: I'm only hiring people with experience making Doctor Who.Infinitum posted:Kate Herron is the Director of every ep of Loki S1 RTD: Well she meets all the qualifications!
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Apr 1, 2024 00:44
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Timby posted:Chibnall wrote literally every episode of Flux. Technically true, but I wouldn't describe anything Chibnall wrote having "vision" or "characters" or "a plot." RTD writing basically the whole series does make me a tad nervous. He acquitted himself well with the specials and writing most of the episodes means he will, by definition, be doing some non-arc ones which is where he's strongest, but he's not going to be around forever and the show desperately needs to cultivate new talent.
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Apr 1, 2024 00:46
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I know writing for audio and tv are not the same thing but there definitely are some very solid big finish writers I'm just saying.
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Apr 1, 2024 00:48
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My guess is that he wrote most of this first season because it takes awhile for the writers for the second season to climb up the side of his body to get close enough to his ear that he can hear their pitches. Several fell and died in the process, but this is the weeding out part of the creative process.
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Apr 1, 2024 00:49
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Rochallor posted:Technically true, but I wouldn't describe anything Chibnall wrote having "vision" or "characters" or "a plot." If I had to wager a guess, Davies made the decision to write the majority of the season once the Disney money was secured. We know from The Writer's Tale that Davies is an insane workaholic who can turn around a script from outline to shooting draft in 48 hours--admittedly, not always for the better, in quite a few cases--and there was probably pressure from Disney to start seeing a return on their investment much sooner than later. So my feeling is he said, "OK, gently caress it, I'll write most of it, I'll get Moffat to do one and then I liked this pitch from someone else. And maybe we'll do things different with the next season."
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Apr 1, 2024 01:49
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