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Coasterphreak posted:If I had to speculate (and just to be clear, this is pure speculation) the problem they’re running into is that any motor with enough torque to move the ride vehicles can also move them fast enough to make them unsafe. This is a very solved problem, which is reflective of the fact that Autopia should've gone entirely electic about thirty years ago, when electric vehicles were still a futuristic concept. (The ride is in Tomorrowland for a reason, which is that in 1955, interstate highways were a futuristic concept.)
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Coasterphreak posted:If I had to speculate (and just to be clear, this is pure speculation) the problem they’re running into is that any motor with enough torque to move the ride vehicles can also move them fast enough to make them unsafe. Isn’t this pretty much one of the (many many) insane things the drunk teens running Action Park did?
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Coasterphreak posted:If I had to speculate (and just to be clear, this is pure speculation) the problem they’re running into is that any motor with enough torque to move the ride vehicles can also move them fast enough to make them unsafe. yeah where could they possibly find a replacement electric vehicle that tech doesnt exist yet 
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What if instead of electric cars we just demolish it on both coasts and put something good there instead
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Tim Whatley posted:What if instead of electric cars we just demolish it on both coasts and put something good there instead 
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Oh now you want to remove non-IP rides.
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Tim Whatley posted:What if instead of electric cars we just demolish it on both coasts and put something good there instead Easy enough for WDW, but at DLR I believe it's much more difficult to plop something else down because of the tunnels from the submarine voyage. I do wonder if it's one of those things that's only still around because it's an original. I can't think of any other reason why.
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I say keep Autopia. It's kind of woven into the landscape between the monorail and over the submarine ride and everything. There's not much else you could do with that space and it's also very scenic and pretty, being only two lanes since they all diverge and has nice landscaping. Tomorrowland Speedway on the other hand is just a big ugly open field with a few sparse trees, and the four lanes the entire route make it look trashy. You could easily put multiple good attractions in that space. I say remove it.
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Coasterphreak posted:Sure, you can install limiters and safety cutoffs, but all of that can be bypassed if you have half an idea of what you’re doing. it wouldn't go unnoticed; in either case the remedy is they get sent to Disney Jail forever
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The cars on Autopia and Tomorrowland Speedway already have speed governors on them. It's a little spring lever mechanism that can easily be altered if you open the hood. They are actually capable of going about 20-25 mph.
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The general impression I picked up at Disneyland is that salaried office-building types know that restoring the submarine ride 18 years ago (!!!!) was a mistake, and they should have just torn down everything but the monorail pylons and completely redesigned that area after Rocket Rods failed in 2001. It's a consequence of not having any long term vision, because in 2005 there would have been no budget to do that, and Matt Ouimet's administration getting the money from corporate to redo the subs along with striking the Honda deal to connect/redo Autopia was considered a big overhaul for Disneyland's 50th celebration. The bigger problem is that the 9/11 tourism recession and the housing crisis was almost 20 years ago and the park keeps choosing to build new construction on expansion soil (backstage areas, parking lots, etc) rather than making better use of 50+ year old spaces, which is pretty wild when raw space is what Disney Anaheim is always trying to contend with. Owing to inflation, iirc the Nemo redo of Submarine Voyage finally broke Spaceship Earth's long-standing record of most expensive Disney attraction until Pandora. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Tim Whatley posted:What if instead of electric cars we just demolish it on both coasts and put something good there instead I support thi- Aphrodite posted:Oh now you want to remove non-IP rides. hahahaha this is really good for real though, I feel like you could have a really great mickey races thing for kids outside of the parks, maybe over at ESPN, and do something very different with autopia/tomorrowland speedway. or, just inject them with Sugar Rush like they should have years ago. A quick sarah silverman (for all she sucks) overlay would give it a femme twist (which is extremely lacking in tomorrowland) and something different.
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For a while I thought Pandora might go over Nemo and Autopia but apparently not now
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Well now I’m curious— I know the Orlando Pandora is largely hurricane-proof, but could a straight-up replica work in Anaheim with its earthquakes?
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I doubt the problem is earthquakes, but more likely to be CalOSHA and the lack of an RCID to let Disney more or less make up it's own codes, which is why Anaheim now has an extra cusp on the top of Space Mountain that it's twin in Tokyo nor the one in Orlando share (before and after, it's extra supports for the guys cleaning the dome). Without knowing anything about how they maintain the Pandora facade, I couldn't say anything further.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:I support thi- CapnAndy posted:Autopia is a disgrace. Freeways are not a novel concept. Gas burning cars are not the future. "Make them electric cars" was an easy solution... twenty years ago. Now? Now, they need to be electric, obviously, and they need to be self-driving. (The current state of the art can more than handle go-karts on a closed track.) And while I'm not going to go pure IP everywhere, "driving cars" is a weak enough concept that it really needs some IP. I'd give it a retheme to Sugar Rush. This lets us justify the self-driving, which you can toggle on and off -- if you don't want to race, or are too little to, Vanellope will do it for you. Its proximity to TRON and Buzz Lightyear also raises the possibility of spinning off into a video games themed Arcadeland; I can't think of anything else to take advantage of that right now so I don't want to do it, but it's a neat idea for the future.
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CapnAndy posted:Hey Past Andy posting "What I'd do if I was in charge of the parks", you wanna take this one The hardest agree though. I dunno if Wreck-It Ralph is still super relevant, but it's like the only racing game thing they have. Like they aren't gonna do Cars when they have Cars Land already.
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I would like them to finally fix the Rocket Rods/People Mover in Disneyland. Just get rid of it and remodel everything around it that is open. Autopia is okay, but they already have Cars Test Track at California Adventure now. But then again, I'm also wanting to see Innoventions instead of Star Wars Merch Store or Stark Expo.
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TelevisedInsanity posted:I would like them to finally fix the Rocket Rods/People Mover in Disneyland. Disneyland's Tomorrowland presents an enormous issue and basically needs to be shut down to be fixed. If they took it down for a year and absolutely kicked rear end fixing things up, doing something or other with the peoplemover, etc, it would do so very much for them. Tomorrowland in general is a hard concept to keep up with, but both US parks have really, really ignored theirs for too long.
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https://x.com/scottgustin/status/1775578604442701872?s=46 What if I was right lol
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Tim Whatley posted:https://x.com/scottgustin/status/1775578604442701872?s=46 More Avatar????
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They're going to build Water Avatar land there about 6 years after the movie.
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Aphrodite posted:They're going to build Water Avatar land there about 6 years after the movie. The sequel made a billion dollars two years ago.
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Yes, and Pandora was completed 8 years after the first one came out.
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Tim Whatley posted:What if I was right lol The OC Register posted:During the shareholder meeting, Iger also discussed the $1.9 billion DisneylandForward proposal seeking approval by the Anaheim City Council on April 16.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Disneyland's Tomorrowland presents an enormous issue and basically needs to be shut down to be fixed. If they took it down for a year and absolutely kicked rear end fixing things up, doing something or other with the peoplemover, etc, it would do so very much for them. I really don't think there's any fix to the inherent problem that tomorrow will always become today and today will, in turn, always become yesterday. Just bite the bullet and start budgeting for a total overhaul every 15-20 years.
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Tim Whatley posted:https://x.com/scottgustin/status/1775578604442701872?s=46 Oh that sure looks like the nemo subs are gonna die too
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I’m convinced James Cameron has compromising pictures of somebody in C-Level Disney Speaking of, is there a chance the hostile takeover rumors have any substance? I’ve been getting ads on Instagram about how shareholders really need to vote against some weird chuds who are trying to remake the Disney board.
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Hazo posted:Speaking of, is there a chance the hostile takeover rumors have any substance? I’ve been getting ads on Instagram about how shareholders really need to vote against some weird chuds who are trying to remake the Disney board. The chuds lost the vote to do that by 93 to 7 today. They have no chance of doing anything against the current board.
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Every couple of years some hedge fund ghoul gets mad that Disney is only making $infinity instead of $infinity+ and thus they need to take over the board and stripmine the whole thing for parts. I thought it was Defunctland had a good video on what was probably the best attempt that led to the Eisner-era but I can't find it so hopefully one of you bums will remember who actually made it and post the link tia.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Every couple of years some hedge fund ghoul gets mad that Disney is only making $infinity instead of $infinity+ and thus they need to take over the board and stripmine the whole thing for parts. quote:Nelson Peltz slams Disney for 'all-women and all-black Marvel casts' - sparking furious letter from studio warning of 'the damage this BULLY would do if he were allowed on the board' Can't be overstated how loving dumb these assholes are
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CapnAndy posted:Going retro-future with it was supposed to fix the problem, but it didn't help at all; with its curved lines, rivet holes, and coloring, Tomorrowland looks like a very '90s retro-future. I would say that until recently Epcot was an extremely 80s future that I almost forgot seeing everywhere first hand in that era, and it was so well kept up that it was awesome. Tomorrowland already had it with the 1960s Googie bottle nose rocket ship future, they just needed to maintain it through the "ugh so passe" phase to the point where people actually miss it. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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Bottom Liner posted:Can't be overstated how loving dumb these assholes are Peltz was an avatar for Ike Perlmutter, the former Marvel chief who only wanted white men to be in their movies and loved penny-pinching to a ridiculous degree, with the obvious exception of all the money he can give to Trump. Makes sense a comic company would be ran by a cartoon villain.
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Halloween Horror Nights dates confirmed, August 30th through November 4th. http://spr.ly/6187w89c9 If I recall correctly, this is the first time HHN has broken the August barrier, although my friend's take: "They'll be down to like 25% of their performers by October." I think it was only a matter of time before it spilled into August. I think I'm going to combo an Unmasking the Horror behind the scenes tour into an RIP Tour this year, but on different days. Learned my lesson last year.
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Cais posted:Halloween Horror Nights dates confirmed, August 30th through November 4th. I'd expect MNSSHP to pop up with dates within the next week, then. Which is great, because I am tapping my foot over here trying to see when I need to make a reservation for.
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What did they do in the past when Labor Day was an early one? Wait until that first weekend after to start it?
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Think I might sign up for Unmasking The Horror this year. In 2022 it was my first ever HHN and I absolutely loved it but my wife was so scared lol. This seems to be my workaround.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Every couple of years some hedge fund ghoul gets mad that Disney is only making $infinity instead of $infinity+ and thus they need to take over the board and stripmine the whole thing for parts. This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKWYDPNblo
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Tim Whatley posted:Think I might sign up for Unmasking The Horror this year. In 2022 it was my first ever HHN and I absolutely loved it but my wife was so scared lol. This seems to be my workaround. I have a friend that's in the same boat, she'll never go to HHN with me but she liked the lights on tour! At least in year's past, the 6 house and the 3 house versions have had different houses along the route. That info isn't usually released until the full reveal, but it might help you decide which tour to book if there's a house that you have to see. EDIT: New from my guide friend, but they're actually starting the 3 house tour before the event starts this year. Cais fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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