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Is this supposed to be a big revelation because honestly my first thought is "Who care" Like why does it matter if Robot is the first to die. I guess it matters to him??
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This chapter was…not good. I really enjoyed the “revelations” so far though, in large part thanks to the artwork. But this:  “I resigned myself to die! The first of our kind to cleanse myself of my sins!” Emotionally attuned person and occasional psychopomp  “actually you’d be second to die. Someone already died.”Really kind of shat on this page.
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Darth TNT posted:This chapter was…not good. Incorrect. The chapter isn't over, so this chapter is not good.
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Honestly, if the culmination of Robot's plan was "and then become a psychopomp to guide then into the afterlife as my penance", with Annie's reveal that someone has already died, I wouldn't mind it. But instead now all I'm wishing for is for Annie to give Robot the same treatment Ann gave the teacher in Persona 5. gently caress you, you don't get to do horrible poo poo and then take the easy way out.
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Apr 3, 2024 12:20
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Didn't Robot already acknowledge that the robots and numen can die and have already had at least one death, just like a couple pages ago? What is going on here
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Apr 3, 2024 17:29
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Robot was referring to the experimental limb Kat blew up. As far as I know, that was literally just a limb, nothing with an actual conscience.
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Apr 3, 2024 17:40
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Randalor posted:Robot was referring to the experimental limb Kat blew up. As far as I know, that was literally just a limb, nothing with an actual conscience.   Seems to me like the point was that they were taking it pretty seriously.
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I guess the distinction is that this is the New People proper. So, robots specifically given a new body, not whatever that little winglet was.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:51
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Whoopsie-daisy! Your planned martyrdom was undone by my stupid mistake. Well, let's call this whole thing off, eh? I don't think Kat will even be that upset, water under the bridge.
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Apr 3, 2024 21:50
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Now everyone is going to round on Annie and be mad she let a human robot die before Robot, and instead of noting how absurd this is, she’ll feebly try to defend herself
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Apr 3, 2024 21:53
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My reaction: Caphi posted:
ugh, the numens look so boring compared to the old robots
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Why is her response so unfeeling? Her friend who she literally brought to life from storage just spilled his guts about wanting to die and her reply isn't, oh my god robot don't talk like that, kat would never harm you, we are friends, we can help you, something is wrong but we can figure this out! No it's, um ACTUALLY you aren't the first dead robot loser, some nobody beat you there. Like hey Annie? Is this the perfect moment for a fact check?? Like maybe that's information that can wait till later huh???? Like maybe his factual correctness isn't the most important thing to address in this exact moment? Edit: like there is an uncaring rear end in a top hat nobody with no emotional connection to robot RIGHT THERE if someone needed to be a loving pedant. If robot HAS to learn about Sam this exact moment, why not the notzimmybot? She's making a stupid uninterested face and everything, she could just butt in and give Annie the opportunity to pretend she has an ounce of tact or empathy and, I dunno, be like, "hey stranger that's not really here or there right this second could you shut up" Rat Patrol fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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Apr 4, 2024 14:07
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Rat Patrol posted:Why is her response so unfeeling? Her friend who she literally brought to life from storage just spilled his guts about wanting to die and her reply isn't, oh my god robot don't talk like that, kat would never harm you, we are friends, we can help you, something is wrong but we can figure this out!
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Even if you didn't want her to be sympathetic to robot for some reason, wouldn't she at the very least be moved to stand up for Kat? He just said he thinks Annie's best friend is capable of doling out capital punishment, TO HER FRIEND. Kat who wept for lab mice. Kat who saved a baby pigeon, one of the earth's ugliest babies. Even if zimmy land scrambled Annie's mind and she's not able to feel afraid for her friend Robot, surely she could feel outraged for Kat? That might be an interesting conflict for this, what I assume is meant to be a tense, heightened moment despite the deflating presence of notzimmy's blank idiot face
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Apr 4, 2024 14:43
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As an aside it’s really incredible how every single Numan has been terrible for most scenes they’re in. Lana had some degree of promise that got immediately bodied by a series of bad decisions but Dead Guy and Flock of Background Characters and Blank-Faced Notzimmy have all been a palpable discredit to every scene they’re in both visually and narratively. I guess Arthur gets a passing grade.
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A bold pro-transhumanism moral: robots are way cooler than and superior to humans and you can tell by how miserably boring these robots are now that they're human.
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Tiny Myers posted:A bold pro-transhumanism moral: robots are way cooler than and superior to humans and you can tell by how miserably boring these robots are now that they're human. now this would be a comic I could get behind
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Tiny Myers posted:A bold pro-transhumanism moral: robots are way cooler than and superior to humans and you can tell by how miserably boring these robots are now that they're human. You know, I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned this, but what would the cult/Robot do if there were dissident robots that DIDN'T want to become human? Robot's whole plan revolved around "humanizing" ALL the robots, so would they forcibly disassemble any dissidents and harvest the chips? Robot himself started thinking about how bad it was to be human and fragile before he saw Shadow and his horny circuit kicked in, what's stopping other robots from having the same train of thought? Man, now I want to see a holy schism in the Cult of Kat.
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Randalor posted:You know, I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned this, but what would the cult/Robot do if there were dissident robots that DIDN'T want to become human? Robot's whole plan revolved around "humanizing" ALL the robots, so would they forcibly disassemble any dissidents and harvest the chips? Robot himself started thinking about how bad it was to be human and fragile before he saw Shadow and his horny circuit kicked in, what's stopping other robots from having the same train of thought? There's so, so many cool ways it could go!!! So many possibilities you just leave completely explored because who cares, how about an unflinching army of sycophants, robots are the same as people and have agency except for when they're painfully, unrealistically single minded on a subject!!! Like there's this big parallel to Lucifer and Robot being this big Judas and you never thought to have anyone be a dissident? There's so many people who don't believe in the Christian God/Jesus, including in the stories about him! Also man yeah that robot is just Lana isn't it. That's the dumb loving twist they're setting up, you thought it was zimmy but oooooo. Late to the train but it suddenly became crystal clear to me while I lay here sleep deprived.
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Randalor posted:You know, I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned this, but what would the cult/Robot do if there were dissident robots that DIDN'T want to become human? Robot's whole plan revolved around "humanizing" ALL the robots, so would they forcibly disassemble any dissidents and harvest the chips? Robot himself started thinking about how bad it was to be human and fragile before he saw Shadow and his horny circuit kicked in, what's stopping other robots from having the same train of thought? Aren't they in a way forcibly disassembling the robots already? None of the current Numans were able to give their consent on whether they wanted a new body. Kat just rounded up all the chips and decided for them because of their weird override code. And in the She Gave Us an Ocean chapter, there wasn't really any choice given, just "yo, you've been in a coma for a hot minute, so now we're giving you a new body and more brain probs. Pick something super default, k?"
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It all keeps boiling down to the fact that Tom is now writing this comic as if he's lost all interest in it and just needs to get it out of the way.
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Cavatica posted:Aren't they in a way forcibly disassembling the robots already? None of the current Numans were able to give their consent on whether they wanted a new body. Kat just rounded up all the chips and decided for them because of their weird override code. And in the She Gave Us an Ocean chapter, there wasn't really any choice given, just "yo, you've been in a coma for a hot minute, so now we're giving you a new body and more brain probs. Pick something super default, k?" Literally a single "can I have my old body back, I liked it". You can't tell me no one was attached to their old body even a little? Not even the Robot King who drew on his funny little faces? e: mycatscrimes posted:It all keeps boiling down to the fact that Tom is now writing this comic as if he's lost all interest in it and just needs to get it out of the way. I start to think that, but then he goes on these weird insane tangents like Lana and Loup that drag on way too long, or a bunch of pages of Annie recapping things, e.g. the "just a reminder we're in the zimmy verse, poo poo is weird, I'm gonna say it again, this sure is the zimmy verse, and that girl looks like zimmy". The comic is slamming the gas with one foot and the brakes with the other. Tiny Myers fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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Cavatica posted:Aren't they in a way forcibly disassembling the robots already? None of the current Numans were able to give their consent on whether they wanted a new body. Kat just rounded up all the chips and decided for them because of their weird override code. And in the She Gave Us an Ocean chapter, there wasn't really any choice given, just "yo, you've been in a coma for a hot minute, so now we're giving you a new body and more brain probs. Pick something super default, k?" Ish? I mean, I thought the ones that they were digging up were the ones that had been brainjacked by the court then buried by Loup, so they weren't really in a position to say anything either way (the coma parallel is very on-point), but we haven't been shown any robots that actively said "Hey, being a human would be cool and all, but I was created for this specific purpose, I'm content doing my job, and my robot body seems really good for doing that. If it's all the same with you, I'd prefer to keep doing my job as a robot." Heck, I don't think we've even seen any Numen have second thoughts after they, say, stub a toe or bang their funnybone. That poo poo hurts and we've been doing it for decades, I can't imagine anyone who isn't Bill Cypher doing that for the first time and liking it. Edit: Tiny Myers posted:I start to think that, but then he goes on these weird insane tangents like Lana and Loup that drag on way too long, or a bunch of pages of Annie recapping things, e.g. the "just a reminder we're in the zimmy verse, poo poo is weird, I'm gonna say it again, this sure is the zimmy verse, and that girl looks like zimmy". The comic is slamming the gas with one foot and the brakes with the other. Oh god, why did you have to remind me of that? "Here is a recap OF THE PAST 4 PAGES" while throwing in very specific deep throwbacks without comment or notation. Randalor fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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mycatscrimes posted:It all keeps boiling down to the fact that Tom is now writing this comic as if he's lost all interest in it and just needs to get it out of the way.
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I literally laughed out loud
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This is such a weirdly mean way to deflate a character we've spent years watching.
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This is the worst anti suicide psa i seen
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Tom's "shellfish" pun makes me cringe
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Okay normally I’m just generically bitchy about the decline, but shellfish? Really? We’re making cutesy author note puns about a formerly beloved character trying to commit suicide out of self-loathing and guilt?
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Well at least she's acknowledging what's actually happening instead of fact checking E: now if I only knew what what was actually happening Rat Patrol fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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"Robot, this is besides the point!" Then why did you bring it up? You don't get to be nettled at him for responding to your fact check! Shellfish.
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the author notes have usually been glib, I don’t think this is something to get worked up about dialogue is extremely weak though
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her face is so amorphous lmao like please explain to me why it looks like it's drawn at 3 different angles
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Remember when we thought the story was speeding towards a conclusion once Kat and Paz broke up, and then Loup and Annie buried the hatchet? And now we've been in the Zimmiverse for over half a year.
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Annointed posted:Gunnerkrigg Court: This is the worst anti suicide psa i seen
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Annointed posted:This is the worst anti suicide psa i seen I was gonna ask if this had wrapped or improved since I dropped it but I think this warns off a lot, looking over the last page of thread Also I feel like even without looking it's not gonna top my personal worst-in-class there of (manga title spoiler) Platinum End.
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Oxxidation posted:the author notes have usually been glib, I don’t think this is something to get worked up about ordinarily i'd ignore it, but coolusername posted:We’re making cutesy author note puns about a formerly beloved character trying to commit suicide out of self-loathing and guilt?
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