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Rivian has made their 100,000th vehicle https://insideevs.com/news/714838/rivian-builds-100000-vehicle-normal/
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I don't see a downturn, most of it seems to be media that evs=tesla and all others are prototypes no one buys. some like axios vomit out several articles a day on a mythical ev winter. this being the same publication that big cars are the irreversible future.
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Three Olives posted:The carbon fiber (look?) lip spoiler brings additional questions... It's the only unquestionably will work thing on that car, what's the question?
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borkencode posted:Rivian has made their 100,000th vehicle https://insideevs.com/news/714838/rivian-builds-100000-vehicle-normal/ Decided to google some numbers. Toyota sold 104k [terrible] EVs worldwide in 2023. Toyota sold 115k vehicles in Japan alone in just December 2023 (1 month). This is mostly ice/hybrid I assume. This is mostly to illustrate the difference between mature and newer technology and how hard it is to build cars. Just ask Fisker!
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wear and tear on roads, which is generally the cost that vehicle taxes offset, scales logarithmically with vehicle weight. taxing fuel was a really convenient way to apply that tax since generally big poo poo burns more fuel, and because it naturally followed the vehicle to whatever jurisdictions roads it was wearing and tearing. there isn't going to be anything as elegantly simple for stuff that doesn't burn petrol. the closest would probably be taxing tires, but disincentivizing people from replacing tires would be... not good. next closest would be a tax that used gross weight to set a per-mile rate, but that adds a whole new layer of enforcement needed because taxes that rely exclusively on self-reporting generally don't work out great.
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Some states have mandatory safety inspections, for instance in HI you take your vehicle to an inspector every year and their sole job is to make sure the car's basic safety features are working, e.g. they turn on your blinkers and check that the brake lights work, basic poo poo like that, it only takes 10 minutes. This is a prerequisite for renewing your registration, the inspector transmits their report directly to the DMV. It'd be really easy for the HI DMV to charge a per-mile tax on vehicles as part of registration renewal is what I'm saying
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QuarkJets posted:It'd be really easy for the HI DMV to charge a per-mile tax on vehicles as part of registration renewal is what I'm saying Hawaii is probably the only state in the US that could get away with that. In the continental states, it wouldn't pass constitutional muster for your state government to tax you based on how many miles you may have driven in other states outside of your state's jurisdiction. A couple states have adopted (or are in the process of looking into adopting) programs where you can opt-in to having a state-monitored GPS tracker on your car so they can measure how many miles you drive on state-owned roads, and tax you based on that instead of just charging a flat EV registration fee when you renew your plates every year. Which is a loving horrible idea because the government has no business tracking your whereabouts.
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Three Olives posted:The carbon fiber (look?) lip spoiler brings additional questions... It's standard on the P series 3 and Ys. Also on the Y(not sure on the 3) it'll eventually come off as the 3M tape they use to hold it on wears out, I've had mine replaced under warranty(they even came to my house to do it) already and this replacement is starting to come loose about 8 months after the first replacement.
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Russian Bear posted:Decided to google some numbers. The people behind Fisker would probably be failing if they were running a hamburger stand.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The people behind Fisker would probably be failing if they were running a hamburger stand. speaking of companies that won't do poo poo, I present: Canoo Auto News posted:The company spent $1.7 million reimbursing Aquila Family Ventures, an entity owned and operated by CEO Tony Aquila, for the usage of a private aircraft for purposes related to the business, Canoo said in its annual 10-Q filed with the SEC on Tuesday. The figure represents about twice the $886,000 the company brought in as revenue in 2023. https://www.autonews.com/mobility-report/canoo-spent-double-its-revenue-private-jet-travel
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I've come to terms with the number of people who will judge it for being an EV far exceeds the number or people who will judge it for being a Musk EV. I'm an adult and why would I care about what people think about what I have to drive and live with daily. I bought the Y because it had the best charging network and the best cargo space packaging. It felt massively bigger inside than the Mach E and the ID 4.
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There's 140,000 people working at Tesla besides Elon, at least my purchases enriched those people somewhat. I know that cars are the most expensive thing people buy 2nd to a home, and there's a lot of emotion to that, so it's important to feel good about something you buy.
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My favorite version of this that I saw locally was a Tesla with every single bit of external branding removed. No T, no T E S L A, no anything. Still obvious what it is, of course, but yeah, I get it
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Apr 4, 2024 16:13
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Honestly that sticker or removing the badges is worse, total performance art.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:There's 140,000 people working at Tesla besides Elon, at least my purchases enriched those people somewhat. I know that cars are the most expensive thing people buy 2nd to a home, and there's a lot of emotion to that, so it's important to feel good about something you buy. Very important to 'enrich' those 140,000 people working for a union busting freak who runs factories full of racist abuse. Truly to be applauded. Buy whatever things you want, but lmao don't try and cloak it in some kind of positive social choice because people happen to work for one of the worst humans. Elon already parlayed the praise and support he received over the 2010's for his electric cars to purchase one of the biggest social media venues explicitly to protect and amplify the voices of neo-nazis and racists of all stripe, which he followed through with immediately. So like, yeah supporting Elon and his endeavors does have real world implications, but hey, cars are a big purchase like you say and people want to spend that on what they want to. Just don't try and then turn it around into something neutral or even positive when it is specifically enabling his next twitter level tantrum to make peoples lives worse down the road.
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Apr 4, 2024 16:25
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:It's the only unquestionably will work thing on that car, what's the question? I didn't realize it was factory, I thought it was one of those cringe after market accessories that people put on their car.
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Apr 4, 2024 16:27
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Tom Guycot posted:Very important to 'enrich' those 140,000 people working for a union busting freak who runs factories full of racist abuse. Truly to be applauded. I bought 3 Teslas so far, this post makes me want to buy 3 more.
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Ethical car consumption lol.
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I kind of have my heart set on an Ultra Red Model 3 Highland.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I bought 3 Teslas so far, this post makes me want to buy 3 more. Cool? Buy as many as you want, buy a fleet of robo taxis, just don't try and rube goldberg together some justification that makes it actually socially good in your head.
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drhankmccoyphd posted:I kind of have my heart set on an Ultra Red Model 3 Highland. I’ve been waiting for the highland performance and am seriously torn between ultra red and blue. I’m not a red car person but it looks rad.
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Tom Guycot posted:Cool? Buy as many as you want, buy a fleet of robo taxis, just don't try and rube goldberg together some justification that makes it actually socially good in your head. Sorry for having an opinion on a thing that others have an opinion on, friend.
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Gimme, updated Zeekr 001 wagon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeV-F-xud0g
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Are we doing this again? Should we post a list of every carmaker’s sins so we can find the most ethical car to buy? Not to downplay Musk’s deeds but I think this moralizing is only happening because no one’s bothered to research the other carmakers and their shareholders.
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Vegetable posted:Are we doing this again? Should we post a list of every carmaker’s sins so we can find the most ethical car to buy? Not to downplay Musk’s deeds but I think this moralizing is only happening because no one’s bothered to research the other carmakers and their shareholders. The Quandts are probably worse, off hand.
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the poi posted:I’ve been waiting for the highland performance and am seriously torn between ultra red and blue. I’m not a red car person but it looks rad. Samesies. Not that I could afford the Performance but I'm hoping that trim pushes some of the inventory models down in price a bit. Ultra Red looks absolutely sick in person. The blue is nice but it's not the same WoW factor as the red.
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Thing is with Musk you don't need to research because he loudly and continuously lets you know, and never lets you forget it.
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I don't want anything to do with Nazi's, that's why I only buy VAG.
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The only ethical car purchase is a used Spark EV.
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Wayne Knight posted:The only ethical car purchase is a used Detroit Electric.
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Wayne Knight posted:The only ethical car purchase is a used Spark EV. those things are so cute. I wonder if enough were made that you'll be able to do kit upgrades/maintenance on them. The LEAF is already sort of in that zone.
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Vegetable posted:Are we doing this again? Should we post a list of every carmaker’s sins so we can find the most ethical car to buy? Not to downplay Musk’s deeds but I think this moralizing is only happening because no one’s bothered to research the other carmakers and their shareholders. Elon uses Twitter to platform and literally promote some of the worst people and ideas in our country, his ability to do this is a direct result of his control over Tesla. I wouldn't buy a Ford if Henry for was still publishing the Dearborn Independent.
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I think the part getting glossed over is its fine to buy what you want but don’t pretend/ sell it as its a moral good when you do.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Gimme, updated Zeekr 001 wagon.
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Jimong5 posted:I've come to terms with the number of people who will judge it for being an EV far exceeds the number or people who will judge it for being a Musk EV. I'm an adult and why would I care about what people think about what I have to drive and live with daily. One of the bigger reasons (out of many) why the Mach is kind of a piece of poo poo. It’s not even form over function, it’s marketing over function. It’s got all the downsides of a CUV and none of the upsides, all in the name of looking sporty, and then it fails at being sporty ie it has inarguably sub par performance.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I bought 3 Teslas so far, this post makes me want to buy 3 more. Man, I knew they weren't durable, but that seems like an extremely short lifespan??
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Muscle Tracer posted:Man, I knew they weren't durable, but that seems like an extremely short lifespan?? That's the same number of different cars I've driven in the last decade. Including the loaner Jetta I got from my mechanic for an afternoon.
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