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sharkmafia posted:You all know a good white model paint? My experience with citadel paints has been mostly good, but i'm getting tired of corax white's bullshit. And unfortunately I need to use it a lot because my past self made my admech's primary color scheme green/white with silver/brass metal. Don't use a pure white, use a light grey then an off white then highlight that pure white. Paint recommendations for these colors: Cold white: Vallejo light sea green, pro acryl white-blue, pro acryl titanium white Warm white: Pro acryl khaki, Vallejo game color off white or whatever the new version is called, pro acryl titanium white
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sharkmafia posted:You all know a good white model paint? My experience with citadel paints has been mostly good, but i'm getting tired of corax white's bullshit. And unfortunately I need to use it a lot because my past self made my admech's primary color scheme green/white with silver/brass metal. Pro Acryl bold titanium white and it’s not even close.
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Vallejo Game Colour white is good, and if we're talking off-whites, Citadel Grey Seer is surprisingly good.
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yeah, bold titanium white sounds good. I'm not too interested in trying that other method at the moment, both because i want to match the models that have already been painted to some degree and because that sounds a little advanced for me. better white will do for now.
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Using very light grey is not an advanced method, its vastly easier than painting the whole thing in pure white like corax, and takes less skill and if you take it to the next step with highlighting, lools better
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Yeast posted:Pro Acryl bold titanium white and it’s not even close. I just bought this last night on a whim whilst picking up an Iwata Neo (I'm so giddy after using a shithouse SuperCheapAuto airbrush for years) and I am bouncing at the prospect of using it now. E: Incidentally, I find it's very easy to paint white by just shading & highlighting Grey Seer. Shockeh fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Corax white is already a very pale grey; I thin mine down with white ink to use as a base coat for yellows or whatever contrast paint, covers over black in two-ish coats.
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Played another game and pretty much gave up after a redemptor one shoted my leman russ on turn 1 and then the leman russ blew up my command squad, scout sentinel, and kasrkin.
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Lostconfused posted:Played another game and pretty much gave up after a redemptor one shoted my leman russ on turn 1 and then the leman russ blew up my command squad, scout sentinel, and kasrkin. The dice taketh their due.
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sharkmafia posted:yeah, bold titanium white sounds good. I'm not too interested in trying that other method at the moment, both because i want to match the models that have already been painted to some degree and because that sounds a little advanced for me. better white will do for now. OctaMurk posted:Using very light grey is not an advanced method, its vastly easier than painting the whole thing in pure white like corax, and takes less skill and if you take it to the next step with highlighting, lools better OctaMurk is right. I've hated every pure white paint I've used but something like Celestra Grey base -> Ulthuan Grey highlight -> White thin highlight is very easy and looks great. I've used it on the white cloth here:
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Lostconfused posted:Played another game and pretty much gave up after a redemptor one shoted my leman russ on turn 1 and then the leman russ blew up my command squad, scout sentinel, and kasrkin. If a man must die so that another may live, that man shall eat at the Emperor's table.
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I dunno it sounds more like a man may die so that a bunch of others shall also die.
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Winklebottom posted:OctaMurk is right. I've hated every pure white paint I've used but something like Celestra Grey base -> Ulthuan Grey highlight -> White thin highlight is very easy and looks great. I've used it on the white cloth here: Impossibly good white and orange like wtf
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Wrr posted:I dunno it sounds more like a man may die so that a bunch of others shall also die. That's also how the Guard works
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Lostconfused posted:Played another game and pretty much gave up after a redemptor one shoted my leman russ on turn 1 and then the leman russ blew up my command squad, scout sentinel, and kasrkin. Some thoughts that are meant to be helpful: Did you go first or second also Deadly Demise D3 - not sure how you took out a 7 wound sentinel, a 10 wound kasrkin squad, and a 7 wound command squad don't get shot turn one! even with really heavy tank lists there should be enough terrain on the table to keep your stuff hidden for at least the first turn!
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Tangy Zizzle posted:Some thoughts that are meant to be helpful: Yes I did go turn one, it was 3 mortal wounds which was enough to kill the already wounded sentinel and the two squads were still alive but under strength which had obvious knock on effects like not having enough objective control. And personally I don't agree with "just hide stuff" is a good solution to eating 18 wounds on turn 1. But it's nice if that works for you.
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I appreciate that you are annoyed but: your russ was caught out of position and vulnerable, sounds like your sentinel also was and your command squad, and your kasrkins? and then your opponent managed to squeak at least 4 macro plasma wounds through which is statistically really improbable and then you then failed all of your 6+ saves and then you rolled a six for deadly demise you rolled 5 or 6 on a d3 three separate times for wounds to your unitis there's really only one thing you could have done differently, and it's unit positioning. more terrain, don't bunch units up near vehicles otherwise sometimes the dice aren't so nice!
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And I appreciate that you're trying to be helpful despite not being so at all.
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Winklebottom posted:OctaMurk is right. I've hated every pure white paint I've used but something like Celestra Grey base -> Ulthuan Grey highlight -> White thin highlight is very easy and looks great. I've used it on the white cloth here: Can I say how much this looks like FF9 by Kingdom Death? Excellent paint btw. Whitechat Ulthuan Grey Vallejo Deck Tan Wraithbone All very decent, well covering white substitutes. For pure white I have Liquitex Heavy Body Titanium White for handbrushing.
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Lostconfused posted:And I appreciate that you're trying to be helpful despite not being so at all. yw
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likewise
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My Marine painting is going very nicely and I think I'm going to get these guys up to at least a 1000 point force. If you're working from a Space Wolves combat patrol, what are good units to look at to fill out a list from there? cuz boy does this game have a shitload of little different types of mans, most of whose stat lines do not seem drastically different. Nessus fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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I wish I could help but I think the SW combat patrol is a grab bag of some of the worst units in the book.
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Eej posted:I wish I could help but I think the SW combat patrol is a grab bag of some of the worst units in the book. The battlesuit guy's gotta be worth something right??
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i went to my local game store to pickup some paints and instead got the Les Grognards to start an Astra Militarum army. I really don't know poo poo though. Still, am excited to learn. And also to paint little french spacemen. I was thinking of getting a Veteran Guard KT as well as a way to learn the basics (and you can use them IN 40k from what I gathered). but boy do i not know poo poo about this.
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Some pals from my gaming group are attending Canhammer this year (a team event) and one of the lads has borrowed an optimized Guard 2000pt list from me to practice with. I've been using my 'b' team list and it's been fun!
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Ominous Jazz posted:i went to my local game store to pickup some paints and instead got the Les Grognards to start an Astra Militarum army. I really don't know poo poo though. Still, am excited to learn. And also to paint little french spacemen. I was thinking of getting a Veteran Guard KT as well as a way to learn the basics (and you can use them IN 40k from what I gathered). but boy do i not know poo poo about this. The bad news is that Kill Team is an entirely separate game from 40k with a lot of mechanics that are very different but just similar enough to confuse you. The good news is that it's a great game on its own and a much easier entry point if you're interested in the hobby aspect, especially if you want a variety of factions
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StashAugustine posted:The bad news is that Kill Team is an entirely separate game from 40k with a lot of mechanics that are very different but just similar enough to confuse you. The good news is that it's a great game on its own and a much easier entry point if you're interested in the hobby aspect, especially if you want a variety of factions oh dang i don't know poo poo about warhammer edit: also i'd give the veteran guardsmen doughboy helmets or the adrian helments for more of a world war i vibe instead of uh what it's got going on Ominous Jazz fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Tbc the models are usable in both games (though idk how much the specific equipment options you want for one are good in the other). It's just the mechanics that are different (and imo a lot better in kill team, though obviously you're a lot more limited in what you can have)
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You cannot bring a Mega Gargant in Kill Team, so it is less good. Actually, I would really enjoy some monster mash game with the same overall scale as Kill Team. Basically a Kaiju battle of dreadnoughts tearing apart biotitans and such.
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Ignoring the previous kerfuffle, I'm starting to wonder if imperial guard are the right army for me, to play anyway. There's just some things that I don't like about their game design style. Like having several different special weapon profiles per squad, which you can't fast role, and you have to keep doing the back and forth on saving rolls, slowing things down a ton. Plus the regular weapons being so pathetic that a lot of the time I don't even want to spend time rolling because it's a lot of extra time rolling dice pointlessly. Maybe fishing for 6s just doesn't appeal to me. "Well just go play the objectives then" you say, but at that point it feels like you're playing a different game from the other person. Maybe it's my imagination but for most casual games people want to kind of move their plastic toys closer together and have them fight it out with the results swinging back and forth. I don't have a problem with losing, I certainly don't have fun from just winning either, I think I mainly want an enjoyable and maybe exciting game.
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StashAugustine posted:Tbc the models are usable in both games (though idk how much the specific equipment options you want for one are good in the other). It's just the mechanics that are different (and imo a lot better in kill team, though obviously you're a lot more limited in what you can have) I'm just getting into killteam after bouncing off an ork army maybe seven years ago, and I've gotta say that I love the alternate activations over how 40k does it. Athas posted:You cannot bring a Mega Gargant in Kill Team, so it is less good. Actually, I would really enjoy some monster mash game with the same overall scale as Kill Team. Basically a Kaiju battle of dreadnoughts tearing apart biotitans and such. Ooh drat that'd actually be fantastic, instead of individual units you're taking turns activating different movement, shielding, and weapons systems. Just single huge models smashing each other in a cityscape
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Athas posted:You cannot bring a Mega Gargant in Kill Team, so it is less good. Actually, I would really enjoy some monster mash game with the same overall scale as Kill Team. Basically a Kaiju battle of dreadnoughts tearing apart biotitans and such. Adeptus Titanicus exists. It could sell enough to get the non-Imperial/Chaos titans added.
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Athas posted:You cannot bring a Mega Gargant in Kill Team, so it is less good. Actually, I would really enjoy some monster mash game with the same overall scale as Kill Team. Basically a Kaiju battle of dreadnoughts tearing apart biotitans and such. I'm just surprised they never made a boss battle variant with the whole team up against a Dreadnought/Crisis Suit/Tank/Knight.
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Triskelli posted:I'm just getting into killteam after bouncing off an ork army maybe seven years ago, and I've gotta say that I love the alternate activations over how 40k does it. Yeah and combat resolution is so much faster too
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Lostconfused posted:
If you get shot off the table on turn 1 it either means you goofed up by leaving too much stuff exposed or there wasn't enough terrain on the table. I'm sorry, this is how this game works. You personally disagreeing doesn't change that.
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Geisladisk posted:If you get shot off the table on turn 1 it either means you goofed up by leaving too much stuff exposed or there wasn't enough terrain on the table.
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I'm getting over it, you don't have to feel sorry for getting your kicks in.
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You angered the dice gods and you were smited. This happens.
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