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ikanreed posted:Doesn't China already have 3 times the number of engineers as the next country on the list(Russia)? china recently passed the US in academic output: absolute number of papers, number of citations, you name it
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Votskomit posted:Maybe it's like "we had a Dotcom Hubble. I was crypto scammed. Now we've got tech layoffs and lots of our tech companies are scams. Surely China will have all the same issues, but worse since they are dumber than us smart people." Their reasoning is " people under authoritarian rules" can not innovate. I regularly meet posters who think that even in Chinese subs. There is no point arguing with them. Also another good one, "Elon Musk is willing to try and fail, the Chinese are not brave enough to experiment. " stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 17:35 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Apr 5, 2024 17:33
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we all know the actual reasoning is "them inferior third worlders are just intrinsically dumber than us enlightened whiteys"
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Apr 5, 2024 17:42
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american guy I know reacted to the article about china producing the us cruise missile stockpile in one week by surmising the chinese missiles would be made out of wood and fail
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Apr 5, 2024 17:46
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corona familiar posted:does this GDP comparison take into account the difference in methodology? iirc it was mentioned in this thread that Chinese GDP calculations don't take into account consumer services at all or something? crepeface posted:still makes me laugh to remember dgcf's reaction The discovery that China uses a modification of the evil soviet Material Product System but didn't abandon it was amazing. I mean, Cuba still uses it too, but they might be doing parallelization (you do SNA/MPS -- some of the lefty non-aligned countries did that way). China supposedly ditched it in the early 90s, after doing parallelization. They might have simply gorked SNA to be a screen for some MPS-based numbers, as a sort of a translation. The difference: the international standard by the world bank, wto, imf etc is SNA, "system of national accounts". Because of the philosophy behind it, MPS doesn't compute a lot of what we consider services in economy, while SNA not only does that, but takes account of present market prices. In contrast, MPS seeks to track to utmost the actual physical production. It's one thing to say that Steel Company produced $40.000.000 of output; another very different entirely is to say that it produced X tons of output, each ton with an average value of Y. MPS, in that way, accounts for the actual material value added by economic activity, which makes it really good for planning. For what it doesn't work at all is to provide big fat numbers: you don't take GDP from MPS, you take NMP - net material product. Since MPS worked with administered prices, evaluating things such as consumption through money values would be counterproductive: for example, better to see how much food a household is consuming on average in relation to production and consider values from there, rather than "households are spending X on food" - because of inflation, purchasing power and what not, a household can spend lots more and even so eat less. But since SNA starts from market activity and market prices, well, if there is overall more expenditure and thus more economic activity, GDP can go up*. Since NMP is the material net value generated, you never get that scenario - inflation is accounted for during price administration. In other words, MPS generates much more reduced numbers because it tracks the "physicality" of the economy much, much better. Therefore, a GDP comparison is rather useless with it, as GDP doesn't have that concern at all (* I am being reductive just for the sake of explaining the two)
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Apr 5, 2024 17:57
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Zodium posted:american guy I know reacted to the article about china producing the us cruise missile stockpile in one week by surmising the chinese missiles would be made out of wood and fail it would be bamboo but yes they are right
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Apr 5, 2024 18:00
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all you have to remember that it's always projection and that liberals are fond of alleging that communist countries falsify their national statistics
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Apr 5, 2024 18:01
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Mandel Brotset posted:china recently passed the US in academic output: absolute number of papers, number of citations, you name it Lol but we still rate Shanghai jiaotong university in the 400th place in international School rankings so it doesn't count
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Apr 5, 2024 18:11
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Zodium posted:american guy I know reacted to the article about china producing the us cruise missile stockpile in one week by surmising the chinese missiles would be made out of wood and fail Lmao god I can't wait to get a job at a re-education facility
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Apr 5, 2024 18:14
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You can't re-educate Americans because they were never educated in the first place.
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Apr 5, 2024 18:16
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tell me more about how russians ran out of missiles 2 years ago by using more missiles now
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Apr 5, 2024 18:23
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Zodium posted:american guy I know reacted to the article about china producing the us cruise missile stockpile in one week by surmising the chinese missiles would be made out of wood and fail lol
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Apr 5, 2024 19:01
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shoulda replied that if china has the tech to make missiles out of wood, that just means they can put an even larger amount of their already insane industrial output into tank or ship production lol
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Apr 5, 2024 19:14
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well crap, already posted earlier, but still funny. Homeless Friend posted:youtube giving me pt barnum recommendations hmm lets look into this guys back ground a little, I'm sure he is well qualified and impartial when writing about China. quote:David Rennie (born 1971)[2] is a British journalist. He is a columnist for The Economist, where until September 2017 he served as the Lexington columnist (Farewell Lexington column). He is currently Beijing bureau chief and author of the Chaguan column on China.[3] He is the son of Sir John Rennie, former 'C' (i.e., Director) of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).[4] lol GlassEye-Boy has issued a correction as of 22:34 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Apr 5, 2024 22:31
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stephenthinkpad posted:I notice the collapsed Taiwanese building has anti-thief cages on all of the windows. It's going to be hard for people to find a hole to get out of the building. huh ive never seen anyone describe those things as antithief cages before id always just assumed they were antisuicide cages ironically id never seen those things when i was living in east asia at all my first experience with them was as an undergrad in the desert did i mention that the air conditioning was broken for our first few weeks and the building was a living hell because we couldnt open the windows the whole thing kindof turned into a metaphor
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Apr 5, 2024 23:04
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china makes cool things while america makes things like the juicero
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Apr 5, 2024 23:28
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They don't even really make the juicero since it's probably manufactured in Asia. Also anything America makes is a side effect of a financial scam the product is irrelevant.
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Apr 5, 2024 23:36
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GlassEye-Boy posted:well crap, already posted earlier, but still funny. lol
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Apr 5, 2024 23:39
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Some Guy TT posted:huh ive never seen anyone describe those things as antithief cages before id always just assumed they were antisuicide cages ironically id never seen those things when i was living in east asia at all my first experience with them was as an undergrad in the desert did i mention that the air conditioning was broken for our first few weeks and the building was a living hell because we couldnt open the windows the whole thing kindof turned into a metaphor the were all over the place in Russia during the 90s, now they're more rare, but still common on the ground floors of big cities
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Apr 5, 2024 23:56
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GlassEye-Boy posted:well crap, already posted earlier, but still funny. I suffered through part of an interview with him. the guy is like the platonic ideal of an economist “china understander”, just an awe-inspiring ability to say a whole lot of scary things without a single gram of insight into what’s happening there
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Apr 6, 2024 00:10
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BULBASAUR posted:the were all over the place in Russia during the 90s, now they're more rare, but still common on the ground floors of big cities That's what New York City looked like in the early 90s too
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Apr 6, 2024 00:54
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NY buildings...maybe 10% of the apartments have balconies. In China all apartments come with balconies. Chinese buildings also don't come with any common space, no bike room, no tenant basement storage, no laundry room etc.
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Apr 6, 2024 02:50
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https://twitter.com/sighyam/status/1775503692071903556 "is speaking mandarin a skill now?"
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Apr 6, 2024 02:51
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stephenthinkpad posted:NY buildings...maybe 10% of the apartments have balconies. In China all apartments come with balconies. Chinese buildings also don't come with any common space, no bike room, no tenant basement storage, no laundry room etc. In building laundry is incredible. China is missing out.
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Apr 6, 2024 03:01
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In Training posted:In building laundry is incredible. China is missing out. in unit laundry is the only acceptable way
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Apr 6, 2024 03:08
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In Training posted:In building laundry is incredible. China is missing out. everyone has a laundry area at home in their own apartment
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Apr 6, 2024 03:09
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fart simpson posted:everyone has a laundry area at home in their own apartment 
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Apr 6, 2024 03:14
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I need to learn mandarin,
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Apr 6, 2024 03:15
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Cerebral Bore posted:this article seems to be about the world's biggest economy though? RandolphCarter posted:this time next year:
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Apr 6, 2024 03:21
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Are China's moon bases too successful?
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Apr 6, 2024 03:27
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the roof of the building is usually a common area to hang clothes and sheets to dry too
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Apr 6, 2024 03:29
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Some Guy TT posted:huh ive never seen anyone describe those things as antithief cages before id always just assumed they were antisuicide cages ironically id never seen those things when i was living in east asia at all my first experience with them was as an undergrad in the desert did i mention that the air conditioning was broken for our first few weeks and the building was a living hell because we couldnt open the windows the whole thing kindof turned into a metaphor They put grating around windows so people can't break in through the windows They put grating around the air conditioning units so people can't steal the unit
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Apr 6, 2024 03:39
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gradenko_2000 posted:They put grating around windows so people can't break in through the windows its called vibrant democracy
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Apr 6, 2024 03:39
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fart simpson posted:everyone has a laundry area at home in their own apartment i thought that was kind of standard around the world tbh. laundromats, cheerleaders and employer health insurance were just things i had filed away as "american poo poo"
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Apr 6, 2024 04:22
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Common room laundry room is unsanitary because people put shoes in the laundry machine. The building where we live don't allow apartment wash machines so I just wear hiking clothing and hand wash them.
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Apr 6, 2024 04:47
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crepeface posted:i thought that was kind of standard around the world tbh. laundromats, cheerleaders and employer health insurance were just things i had filed away as "american poo poo" Laundromats tend to be more about the age and density of the construction around them. Though the "banks of washers and you sit around waiting for your laundry" is pretty American. Most of the time in Asia when I've lived in a flat without a washer there'd be a laundry shop with next day pickup. Those are ubiquitous in HK because living in subdivides or tiny flats is pretty common. I've also seen "self service" laundromats like the American style pop up, but they're also super space efficient versions where there's hardly a space for a bench in front of the bank of machines.
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Apr 6, 2024 04:52
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One of those things that varies a lot, as an Australian used to living rural or suburban sprawl I've never lived in a place without its own laundry room. We do have laundromats and such, but they tend to be used more for dry cleaning services, and also do minor repairs and alterations too.
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Apr 6, 2024 05:07
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Cerebral Bore posted:all you have to remember that it's always projection and that liberals are fond of alleging that communist countries falsify their national statistics COVID really drove this point home for me. Everyone alleged that China was faking its numbers and hiding the true death toll. So I figured we'll wait and see how many stories break a year or two later when a journalist finds real numbers. Turns out many of the western countries were faking numbers or just refusing to report them, and China was actually accurate and honest the whole time. That contrast just clarified for me how racist the whole perception difference is.
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Apr 6, 2024 06:08
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Telluric Whistler posted:Laundromats tend to be more about the age and density of the construction around them. Though the "banks of washers and you sit around waiting for your laundry" is pretty American. the first time i remember seeing a self service style laundromat in china was a couple weeks ago, in a small city in yunnan
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In-unit washing machine is normal in Japan (sometimes the washer goes on the balcony). Somewhat rare in the city, but common in the countryside is the large coin laundry. They get slammed on rainy days and are a godsend for large blankets. Otherwise it is line drying on the balcony or inside.
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